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Reply 20 of 53, by Repo Man11

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You'll want to test your memory bandwidth with the motherboard's cache enabled and disabled once you have the K6-2+. With my TXP4 and a K6-2+ modified into a K6-3+ the memory bandwidth is significantly better with the motherboard's cache disabled.

Edit: Speedsys also shows that the system has better performance with the motherboard's cache disabled when combined with a K6-3+

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Reply 21 of 53, by Repo Man11

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A Radeon 9200 should also work.

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Reply 23 of 53, by Sphere478

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haker120 wrote on 2022-07-28, 16:56:

Yes, @Sphere478, I actually ordered what you proposed and I will when it'll arrive. And the other one, that price kills, I'd pay for Voddoo2/3/4 this much, not ATI. xD

Yeah, that dude has been trying to sell those cards for like 2 years and refuses to sell it for something reasonable (under 100)

Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-07-28, 17:31:

A Radeon 9200 should also work.

Great cards!

I have a 128 bit 9200 pro that is ~~almost~~ as good as a 7500 they may as well almost be twins. 😀

Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-07-28, 17:07:

You'll want to test your memory bandwidth with the motherboard's cache enabled and disabled once you have the K6-2+. With my TXP4 and a K6-2+ modified into a K6-3+ the memory bandwidth is significantly better with the motherboard's cache disabled.

Edit: Speedsys also shows that the system has better performance with the motherboard's cache disabled when combined with a K6-3+

^yes indeed!

Socket 5/7 systems can go either way, but most super socket 7 systems are better with it enabled.

Repo Man11 wrote on 2022-07-28, 17:01:

An FX/Quadro 280 card is another option.

I got one of those after your success but haven’t had much luck with mine. 🙁

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 25 of 53, by Sphere478

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Did you try it in another motherboard? (The 7500) like a pentium 2/3 setup or something?

I’ve had really good luck with the short green ones. Never tried the tall red ones. Sorry.

Can you post some benchmarks of the matrox in your setup? 😀 3dm 99/2k

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 26 of 53, by haker120

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Radeon 7500 works on Asrock K8NF4G-SATA2 but installation of Windows XP is stuck at 'finalizing installation', stuck but not freezed. And sure, I can do benchmarks, where to safely download this partucular version? 😀

Edit: Ok, 20 minutes of waiting and installation somehow progresses. xD

Reply 27 of 53, by Sphere478

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Woohoo!

I downloaded them long ago. Try googling? 😀

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 28 of 53, by haker120

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And I dunno, Ati 7500 is either damaged but on generic driver doesn't spit artifacts or driver is borked, on 3 PCs this device cannot be started after Ati Radeon Mobility 7500 is installed...

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Reply 29 of 53, by Sphere478

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It comes up as a mobile? That’s odd.

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 31 of 53, by Sphere478

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You install what works 😀 sounds like the matrox works 😀

Would be curious what is under that heatsink on the 7500 btw.

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 32 of 53, by haker120

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I can make pics but still, I need to verify if that works or not. And Socket 7 PC doesn't beep like no GPU present but doesn't show any picture and TV doesn't show no signal detected.

For clearance I'm testing on nforce WinXP mobo that allows me to choose Integra/PCI/PCI-E, without drivers all ports work and no glitches/artifacts, after drivers, supposedly wrong ones black screen.

Edit: I removed heatsing and darn... this crap is Radeon Mobility 7500 and I cannot find compatible drivers.

Reply 33 of 53, by Sphere478

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Interesting. Can you post a pic of it?

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)

Reply 34 of 53, by haker120

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Untill I'm looking for drivers I'm not into taking pics.

Edit: I found compatible drivers however this GPU cannot be set as only GPU only additional.

Edit2: I ordered GeForce FX5500 PCI 256MB RAM, hopefully that will work. 😁

Reply 35 of 53, by luk1999

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Have you ordered one of these "chinese" FX5500 PCI (like from Phil's video)? They might not work in old s7 systems...

FX5500 has quite high CPU overhead and I wouldn't pair it with something slower than, let say Pentium III / Celeron / Althon / Duron 800.

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Reply 36 of 53, by Repo Man11

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luk1999 wrote on 2022-08-09, 20:19:

Have you ordered one of these "chinese" FX5500 PCI (like from Phil's video)? They might not work in old s7 systems...

FX5500 has quite high CPU overhead and I wouldn't pair it with something slower than, let say Pentium III / Celeron / Althon / Duron 800.

On the previous page I posted a 3D Mark 2000 score of 2,843 with a Quadro NVS280 with the 45.23 driver force installed - I've an older FX5500 PCI that has a near identical score on the same system. They are CPU limited (the 64 and 128 bit cards have near identical scores because of this) but they are affordable cards that aren't too difficult to find.

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Reply 37 of 53, by haker120

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Then time to give up with this board as I have SS7 motherboard from DFI. And unfortunately yes, from chinese seller described as 'new'.

This to be clear.
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Edit: Ok, I ordered Nvidia Quadro NVS 280 PCI and I think that's it for PCI GPUs in my collection. Fortunately seller includes VGA converter to 2 VGA ports.
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Reply 38 of 53, by haker120

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Benchmark of Radeon Mobility 7500.

And Matrox G450. 😁

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Reply 39 of 53, by Sphere478

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You got the 7500 working on the socket 7? Or this is on super socket 7?

Sphere's PCB projects.
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Sphere’s socket 5/7 cpu collection.
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SUCCESSFUL K6-2+ to K6-3+ Full Cache Enable Mod
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Tyan S1564S to S1564D single to dual processor conversion (also s1563 and s1562)