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First post, by keropi

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I recently ressurected an old 486/100 pc. I think it's mobo is one of the last made, it is a shuttle HOT-433 (4xISA + 4xPCI slots)
the problem I am having is with mice. Using an OLD serial mouse works OK. So I just plugged a serial->ps2 adapter and several different ps2 mice. nothing. Optical mice don't even get power. So I learned that if you want to use a ps2 mouse on a serial port, the mouse must be made to also operate in "serial mode" . Apparently newer ones are not....
Next step is to decrypt the 10-pin ps2 mobo connector. I found the power/ground lines and the ps2 mice get power. Next I found the 2 other tracks, data and clock... but in vain... connecting the mouse there kill the keyboard or makes it produce irrelevant characters... (maybe this "ps2" connector is just a built-in serial->ps2 one like the external version 😖 ) I also tried in vain some ISA cards that have serial+parallel ports...
so, is there a solution??? is there a hardware adaptor or something?
Thanks!

Reply 1 of 12, by red_avatar

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That's very weird - even my old 386 runs optical mice with a PS2 plug. Shuttle aren't exactly known for their quaility hardware though - they were always a bit of a dodgy brand.

Reply 2 of 12, by MiniMax

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Ahmmmm 😒

Both my first, and my current PC is based around a Shuttle motherboard 😀

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Reply 3 of 12, by keropi

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maybe I need to get another mobo from eBay or something....

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Reply 4 of 12, by eL_PuSHeR

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Maybe a bios update is in order? I owned a Shuttle mobo once and I updated its bios several times.

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Reply 5 of 12, by keropi

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I did a flash update to the latest version, now there is no "mouse support" option in BIOS... and connecting a mouse to the "ps2 mouseport" mow produces a keyboard error on boot...

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Reply 6 of 12, by keropi

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OK, I am screwed on ps2 for my mobo:

look what I found in one of it's bios releases:

Caution: This version BIOS(433AUS26) is for HOT-433 motherboard which support
PS/2 mouse. If your motherboard support does NOT PS/2 mouse, please
download different version BIOS other than this one.
To tell if your motherboard will support PS/2 mouse, just verify
if your motherboard has external keyboard BIOS. If it does, it
will support PS/2 mouse. If the keyboard BIOS socket is empty,
it will NOT support PS/2 mouse.

...and ofcourse mine does not have this chip

Reply 7 of 12, by eL_PuSHeR

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Well, time to downgrade BIOS I guess. Just reflash with an older appropiate version.

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Reply 8 of 12, by keropi

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I don't see a point in downgrading... the ps2 mouse never worked with this mobo... at least now it is kind enough to inform on boot that there is a kb problem 🤣
I wonder though what will happen if I find and install an AMIKEY-2 chip on the empty socket...

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Reply 9 of 12, by eL_PuSHeR

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Well, if you are not having problems, leave bios as is.

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Reply 10 of 12, by red_avatar

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MiniMax wrote:

Ahmmmm 😒

Both my first, and my current PC is based around a Shuttle motherboard 😀

So 😉 It's still a rather dodgy brand. Just read the poor English 😜 Would you trust a brand that can't even afford a decent translator? 😉

Caution: This version BIOS(433AUS26) is for HOT-433 motherboard which support PS/2 mouse. If your motherboard support does NOT P […]
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Caution: This version BIOS(433AUS26) is for HOT-433 motherboard which support PS/2 mouse. If your motherboard support does NOT PS/2 mouse, please
download different version BIOS other than this one.
To tell if your motherboard will support PS/2 mouse, just verify
if your motherboard has external keyboard BIOS. If it does, it
will support PS/2 mouse
. If the keyboard BIOS socket is empty,
it will NOT support PS/2 mouse.

Just highlighted the grammar errors 😜

Reply 11 of 12, by Jorpho

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keropi wrote:

Next step is to decrypt the 10-pin ps2 mobo connector. I found the power/ground lines and the ps2 mice get power. Next I found the 2 other tracks, data and clock... but in vain... connecting the mouse there kill the keyboard or makes it produce irrelevant characters...

I tried wiring one of those up once. You might want to double-check the pin assignments. (It seems to me like it ought to be possible to get it to work if you can get it to do anything at all.)

Reply 12 of 12, by keropi

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@Jorpho:

yeah, I found the 4 active pins of the "mouseport" but there is no way to work... my mobo does not have the amikey-2 chip, so there is no real ps2 mouse support..

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