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First post, by keropi

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I recently ressurected an old 486/100 pc. I think it's mobo is one of the last made, it is a shuttle HOT-433 (4xISA + 4xPCI slots)
the problem I am having is with mice. Using an OLD serial mouse works OK. So I just plugged a serial->ps2 adapter and several different ps2 mice. nothing. Optical mice don't even get power. So I learned that if you want to use a ps2 mouse on a serial port, the mouse must be made to also operate in "serial mode" . Apparently newer ones are not....
Next step is to decrypt the 10-pin ps2 mobo connector. I found the power/ground lines and the ps2 mice get power. Next I found the 2 other tracks, data and clock... but in vain... connecting the mouse there kill the keyboard or makes it produce irrelevant characters... (maybe this "ps2" connector is just a built-in serial->ps2 one like the external version 😖 ) I also tried in vain some ISA cards that have serial+parallel ports...
so, is there a solution??? is there a hardware adaptor or something?
Thanks!

Reply 1 of 12, by red_avatar

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That's very weird - even my old 386 runs optical mice with a PS2 plug. Shuttle aren't exactly known for their quaility hardware though - they were always a bit of a dodgy brand.

Reply 2 of 12, by MiniMax

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Ahmmmm 😒

Both my first, and my current PC is based around a Shuttle motherboard 😀

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Reply 4 of 12, by eL_PuSHeR

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Maybe a bios update is in order? I owned a Shuttle mobo once and I updated its bios several times.

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Reply 5 of 12, by keropi

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I did a flash update to the latest version, now there is no "mouse support" option in BIOS... and connecting a mouse to the "ps2 mouseport" mow produces a keyboard error on boot...

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Reply 6 of 12, by keropi

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OK, I am screwed on ps2 for my mobo:

look what I found in one of it's bios releases:

Caution: This version BIOS(433AUS26) is for HOT-433 motherboard which support
PS/2 mouse. If your motherboard support does NOT PS/2 mouse, please
download different version BIOS other than this one.
To tell if your motherboard will support PS/2 mouse, just verify
if your motherboard has external keyboard BIOS. If it does, it
will support PS/2 mouse. If the keyboard BIOS socket is empty,
it will NOT support PS/2 mouse.

...and ofcourse mine does not have this chip

Reply 7 of 12, by eL_PuSHeR

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Well, time to downgrade BIOS I guess. Just reflash with an older appropiate version.

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Reply 8 of 12, by keropi

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I don't see a point in downgrading... the ps2 mouse never worked with this mobo... at least now it is kind enough to inform on boot that there is a kb problem 🤣
I wonder though what will happen if I find and install an AMIKEY-2 chip on the empty socket...

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Reply 9 of 12, by eL_PuSHeR

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Well, if you are not having problems, leave bios as is.

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Reply 10 of 12, by red_avatar

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MiniMax wrote:

Ahmmmm 😒

Both my first, and my current PC is based around a Shuttle motherboard 😀

So 😉 It's still a rather dodgy brand. Just read the poor English 😜 Would you trust a brand that can't even afford a decent translator? 😉

Caution: This version BIOS(433AUS26) is for HOT-433 motherboard which support PS/2 mouse. If your motherboard support does NOT P […]
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Caution: This version BIOS(433AUS26) is for HOT-433 motherboard which support PS/2 mouse. If your motherboard support does NOT PS/2 mouse, please
download different version BIOS other than this one.
To tell if your motherboard will support PS/2 mouse, just verify
if your motherboard has external keyboard BIOS. If it does, it
will support PS/2 mouse
. If the keyboard BIOS socket is empty,
it will NOT support PS/2 mouse.

Just highlighted the grammar errors 😜

Reply 11 of 12, by Jorpho

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keropi wrote:

Next step is to decrypt the 10-pin ps2 mobo connector. I found the power/ground lines and the ps2 mice get power. Next I found the 2 other tracks, data and clock... but in vain... connecting the mouse there kill the keyboard or makes it produce irrelevant characters...

I tried wiring one of those up once. You might want to double-check the pin assignments. (It seems to me like it ought to be possible to get it to work if you can get it to do anything at all.)