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Reply 2580 of 2713, by songoffall

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My Pentium II build:

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Compaq Deskpro 2000 (Intel 440LX)
Intel Pentium II 300MHz Deschutes
3x128Mb PC100 CL2 ECC SDRAM, 384Mb
Matrox Millenium II 4Mb
Diamond Monster Audio MX300 (Aureal Vortex 2)
ESS AudioDrive ES1689F
Seagate Barracuda 40Gb 7200RPM IDE

Compaq Deskpro 2000/P2 300MHz/384Mb SDRAM/ESS ES1868F/Aureal Vortex 2
Asus A7N8X-VM400/AMD Athlon XP 2ooo+/512Mb DDR DRAM/GeForce 4 MX440/Creative Audigy 2
Asus P5Q Pro/Core2 Quad Q9400/2Gb DDR2/GeForce 8800GT/Creative X-Fi

Reply 2581 of 2713, by weedeewee

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btw, the floppy drive isn't connected

Also just noticed : https://imgur.com/gallery/lblowVb 😉

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Reply 2582 of 2713, by songoffall

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weedeewee wrote on 2024-01-19, 10:07:

btw, the floppy drive isn't connected

Also just noticed : https://imgur.com/gallery/lblowVb 😉

The floppy drive isn't working, and as I don't have one of those bezelless ones, I'm keeping it in. There's a different floppy drive under the CD-ROM, which is connected.

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Reply 2583 of 2713, by davidrg

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Lately I've been going through my stack of DEC PCs - checking their condition, doing a bit of research, taking a few photos, etc. Here are the ones I've done so far with a few notes. Click any picture to embiggen...

Digital DECpc LPv+ 466d2
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66Mhz 486DX-2 with 128K cache, 16MB RAM and onboard S3 805 VLB graphics, Creative SoundBlaster 16 CT2230, CR-563B CD-ROM, Digital DE200 NIC. I've got another one of these, a 450d2, which I've not investigated yet but it did work 15 years ago - probably needs a new RTC by now.

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The DECpc LPv+ was introduced in January 1994 as an update to the LPv series released 5 months earlier bringing EPA Energy Star compliance and one or two other minor improvements. With prices starting at US$1,049 (US$2,157 in 2023), this was the final entry in the DECpc value line. It was replaced with a new line of Venturis 486 and Pentium PCs 11 months later.

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Digital Venturis 575
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75Mhz Pentium, 24MB RAM (8MB onboard), S3 Trio64 PCI (onboard), 428MB Hard disk, freshly repaired DS12887 RTC. I've got another two similar 75MHz machines, and a 133Mhz model - they all look the same.

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The Venturis was DECs value line replacing the DECpc LPv+. This model came out in May 1995 with prices starting at US$1899 (US$3796 in 2023 money). The case is related to the Olivetti M4-75S, though the motherboard and riser are certainly from DEC.
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Digital Celebris GL 5133ST
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133Mhz Pentium, Matrox Storm/MGA Millennium PCI graphics with 2MB WRAM (onboard), DEC 21040 Ethernet (onboard), ESS1688 audio (onboard) with internal speaker, Adaptec 7850 SCSI (onboard). This one has a 256KB cache module, 64MB RAM, a CF card, and a new RTC chip with replaceable battery.

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The Celebris was DECs higher-end line. This model came out on the same day as Windows 95 costing US$4,299 (US$8,595 in 2023 money)
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Digital Celebris GL 6200 aka Digital PC 5400
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200MHz Pentium Pro, 96MB RAM, onboard Matrox Millenium 2MB with a 2MB upgrade, onboard Digital 21143 fast ethernet, onboard ESS1888 audio.

Edit: Unfortunately the PSU in this machine went bang about a week after this post and a chunk of MOSFET fell out. The original ATX PSU is a non-standard size a little bit bigger than FlexATX so I might see if I can get one of those mounted someday.

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This model came out in September 1996 with prices starting at US$2,609 (US$5,067 in 2023) for a single processor 180Mhz machine. They were also available in a dual processor configuration with a slightly different motherboard.
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Digital PC 3500
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233MHz Pentium II, 64MB RAM, onboard Matrox Mistique 220, Compaq NLX AGP ATI Rage Pro, Digital DE500 fast ethernet, 3dfx Voodoo2 12MB, Creative SoundBlaster 16 CT2970. The monitor shows how badly the this computer and keyboard have yellowed - they should all be the same frost white has the display. This machine could do with a bit of restoration work sometime. As could the CRT - its suffering from this problem pretty badly and so only working well enough for a quick picture.

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Announced in February 1998, this was the last PC released by Digital with Compaqs acquisition of the company closing on June and all Digital PC products discontinued by April the following year. Prices started at US$1,380 (US$2,580 in 2023) for the 233MHz model.
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Reply 2587 of 2713, by davidrg

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I've got a HiNote on the way which should be fun to play with - I've been after a Windows 9x laptop for a while. Still a bunch more DEC PCs to check over too - probably need to order some caps before everything is running nicely.

Reply 2588 of 2713, by songoffall

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I think I prefer DECs from that era to most other brands, although I've never owned one, I've seen how they perform. A lot more thought seems to have gone into the selection of components than, say, a DELL of that era, and IBMs sometimes have interesting proprietary parts, but DECs are more pleasant to work with. Having an onboard S3 VLB on the DX2 is a masterstroke - I don't think you could wish for more on a 486DX2, and many PCs of that class come with much weaker VGAs.

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Asus A7N8X-VM400/AMD Athlon XP 2ooo+/512Mb DDR DRAM/GeForce 4 MX440/Creative Audigy 2
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Reply 2589 of 2713, by davidrg

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Yeah, the DECpc LPv/LPv+ systems make for a pretty trouble free DOS gaming machine - just add a sound card of your choice and maybe an XTIDE ROM if you want to use CF cards and you're good to go. Never had any trouble with them except for needing to replace the DS12887 RTC chip and their slightly picky memory requirements. For several years this LPv+ 466d2 was my DOS games machine and the only reason it isn't still on my desk is I found a GUS and built a DX4-100 machine to take it.

Reply 2590 of 2713, by davidrg

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Time for more DEC PCs! For these I've done away with the DEC CRTs - the older one is either too new or too old for all of these machines, while the newer one has issues so I've packed it back away. Instead I'm using an obviously wrong 17" Panasonic CRT from the late 90s.

DECstation 325sx
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20MHz Intel 386SX, 4MB RAM (the max the machine will take), onboard Western Digital WD90C00-LK 512KB VGA, 40MB Conner Type 17 IDE hard disk, Digital DE200 NIC. Running a retail copy of Windows 3.0 and the OEM copy of MS-DOS 4.01.01.

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This was DECs attempt to get back into the PC market. The entire DECstation line was built by Olivetti in Europe and Tandy for the rest of the world, and this one is clearly built by Tandy. I can't find any information on when this particular model was introduced, just that it was sometime after the DECstation line of PCs were introduced on 11 January 1989. This particular one is probably from late 1990 or early 1991 based on the BIOS versions. This thing also doesn't have a ROM-based BIOS setup program - you've got to boot DOS and run it from there which makes things pretty inconvenient when the 3.6V Lithium Thionyl Chloride battery is flat.
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DECpc 325sx LP
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25MHz AMD 386SX (soldered), 16MB RAM (4x 4MB 30pin SIMMs), onboard Oak OTI-067 VGA, Quantum Prodrive LPS 52AT, Digital DE200 NIC. Running the OEM copy of MS-DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1 (which has been modified by DEC).

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This is a rather obscure machine with very little information out there visible to Google that wasn't written by me. As far as I can tell there were two versions of the 325sx LP - one with Oak graphics sold in the Asia-Pacific region from April 1992, and one with Cirrus Logic graphics introduced with the rest of the DECpc Line and sold world-wide from August 1992.The April 1992 machines appear to have been DEC testing the market to see how well their new PC strategy would work. Original prices in April 1992 were AU$2,660 or S$2,599 with a 14" monitor, DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.0.

I've got two of these machines, one working and one with probably irreparable battery damage. While these use a Rayovac 840 alkaline battery rather than your typical Varta, the Rayovac battery was velcroed directly to the motherboard making the result of a leaking battery no better than had it been a Varta.

These machines also have an unusual power button arrangement. They use the same push-in/push-out switch most AT-compatibles use, but the switch is mounted inside the PSU and operated via a steel rod connected to the button on the front of the case. The rod is kept aligned with the power switch using a rubber tube which, after 30 years, has completely disintegrated. I ended up just rolling up some paper and wrapping it with tape as a replacement.

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DECpc 340dx LP
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40MHz AMD 386DX, 8MB RAM, 128K secondary cache, Quantum ProDrive ELS 100MB (original drive is unreliable), Onboard S3 924 VLB 512K, Digital DE200 NIC. This one was built in September 1992 and is shown running the OEM copy of DOS 5 and Windows 3.1 as the 325sxLP

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The DECpc LP line launched properly in late August 1992 (ignoring those 20/25Mhz 386s from April '92), with a 33Mhz 386 at the low end and a 66MHz 486DX2 at the top. All models except the 33Mhz 386 have the CPU on a daughter card for easy upgrades, with the 486 CPU cards also having a vacancy socket allowing a CPU upgrade by just installing the new one - no need to pry the old one out of the non-ZIF socket (assuming its socketed - the 486SX model seems to be soldered). The battery and PSU switch situation are the same as those previous 386 DECpc LP machines with the same fixes.

I have a second example of this machine, a 433dxLP, but its never worked as long as I've had it - it just gives a few beeps in a weirdly low tone.

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Digital Prioris LX 575
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75MHz Pentium, 40MB RAM, a hard disk of some kind, integrated Cirrus Logic GD5428 ISA SVGA, integrated Adaptec 7850 PCI Fast/narrow SCSI II, integrated PCI Digital 21040 10Mbps Ethernet. Pictured running... nothing. This machine isn't entirely happy right now - the battery in the RTC chip has failed which causes more problems than normal due to the EISA bus. The PSU also needs some attention as it turns itself off after a while. A few years ago I was using this machine for messing around with Windows NT 3.1 so its also got a 3Com Etherlink III installed (I couldn't find drivers for the onboard Ethernet that would work in NT 3.1)

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The Prioris LX 575 was announced in June 1995 starting at US$3,000 replacing the Prioris MTE. This is of course a low-end server with 3x EISA slots, 2x PCI slots and 1x shared PCI/EISA slot. The CPU and RAM lives on a card that slots in above the top PCI slot. Apparently there was a 486DX-2 CPU card for these too.

The integrated graphics is suitable for the text-based UI of Novell NetWare or doing occasional admin work on Windows NT Server, but if you were to actually use this machine as a workstation you'd want to put a real PCI graphics card in it.

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Digital AlphaStation 200 4/166
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Unlike the rest of the machines here, this isn't a PC and it doesn't have an x86-compatible CPU. Instead its got DECs own Alpha 21064 "EV4" 64bit processor at 166MHz. Its also got 144MB RAM, an IBM DCAS-34330 4GB SCSI hard disk, Toshiba SCSI CD-ROM, onboard Digital 21040 Ethernet, Integrated AnalogDevices AD1848KP SoundPort Audio, and a PCI Digital ZLXp-E1 TGA graphics card (DECchip 21030-AA).

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The AlphaStation 200 4/166 was introduced in November 1994 with prices starting at US$6995 (US$14,381 in 2023) for a machine with Windows NT 3.50, a 340MB hard disk, CD-ROM drive and 16MB of RAM. It was also available running Digital UNIX and Digital OpenVMS Alpha.

This is a better example of what Digital was known for - things that are very much not PCs. While its pictured running Windows NT Workstation 4.0, it does not have an x86-compatible CPU. Instead its running the 32bit Alpha port of Windows and out of the box is not capable of running any regular PC software. Digital released a utility, FX!32, which packages an x86 emulator with a binary translator allowing PC software to run with a performance hit that decreases overtime as FX!32 translates the x86 machine code to Alpha reducing the amount that runs under emulation.

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Digital PC 3100 AKA Venturis FX-2
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200MHz Pentium MMX, 32MB RAM, 2GB Western Digital Caviar 2200, integrated S3 Trio64V2/GX graphics, Digital DE450 PCI NIC

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Introduced in May 1997 replacing the earlier Venturix FX line, these machines shipped with either a Pentium MMX or AMD K6 processor. In October 1997 DEC switched all all of their desktop and server PCs to more generic names with the Venturis FX-2 becoming the Digital PC 3100.

This particular machine was missing its PSU when I got it, and the CMOS battery hadn't been moved very carefully (clip bent), and the CPU fan was seized. Its now running with a new Startech Socket 7/370 cooler and the PSU out of a dead Venturis FX-2. The hard disk, which was just floating around in the case (normally mounted to the PSU) still contained the OEM install of Windows 95 OSR2.

The keyboard is looking a little less yellow compared to its previous appearance alongside the Digital PC 3500 - its spent a bit of time out in the strong New Zealand summer sun and it turns out that does work for deyellowing plastic!

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I think thats about it for the DEC PCs. The two remaining PCs I have is a big Prioris HX or something, and a HiNote VP that I'm waiting on a PSU for to see if it works.

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Reply 2591 of 2713, by appiah4

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These are so beautiful. I was going to post my late 1998 PII build this weekend, now I no longer want to 😁

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Reply 2592 of 2713, by theelf

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Hi, i found a seller that have this nice front plastic for 10 euro

Of course i buy to build a retro PC

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Lucky me i have a horrible ATX case i found in trash, but similar size, then i remove frontal, paint the old one, and start building my new retro PC

I decide for a Pentium 3 1ghz, 3x isa, lovely board

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Reply 2593 of 2713, by PcBytes

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Now that's some marvelous work to make an ATX case look so retro.

I suppose the power switch is a momentary one?

I might try something like that if I ever find one of those vertically mounted PSU cases.

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Reply 2594 of 2713, by rain

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theelf wrote on 2024-02-02, 09:51:
Hi, i found a seller that have this nice front plastic for 10 euro […]
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Hi, i found a seller that have this nice front plastic for 10 euro

Of course i buy to build a retro PC

IMG_20230916_131546.jpg

Lucky me i have a horrible ATX case i found in trash, but similar size, then i remove frontal, paint the old one, and start building my new retro PC

I decide for a Pentium 3 1ghz, 3x isa, lovely board

IMG_20240116_155406_1.jpg

I have similar front panel , but only panel no case 😀 i wonder what i can do with that..

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Reply 2595 of 2713, by appiah4

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I've seen many cases with destroyed front panels but never a panel without a case but here we have not one but two. I can only wonder what happened to the case itself, and if it was discarded what warranted the owner to retain the front panel. Such a curiosity..

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Reply 2596 of 2713, by theelf

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PcBytes wrote on 2024-02-02, 12:10:

Now that's some marvelous work to make an ATX case look so retro.

I suppose the power switch is a momentary one?

I might try something like that if I ever find one of those vertically mounted PSU cases.

Thanks! i was lucky the atx case was short because psu is in a side

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The power button is definitive, i just cut the atx psu and made a manual.power on

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rain wrote on 2024-02-02, 12:21:
theelf wrote on 2024-02-02, 09:51:
Hi, i found a seller that have this nice front plastic for 10 euro […]
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Hi, i found a seller that have this nice front plastic for 10 euro

Of course i buy to build a retro PC

IMG_20230916_131546.jpg

Lucky me i have a horrible ATX case i found in trash, but similar size, then i remove frontal, paint the old one, and start building my new retro PC

I decide for a Pentium 3 1ghz, 3x isa, lovely board

IMG_20240116_155406_1.jpg

I have similar front panel , but only panel no case 😀 i wonder what i can do with that..

Looks amazing! never see this model, love it

appiah4 wrote on 2024-02-02, 12:38:

I've seen many cases with destroyed front panels but never a panel without a case but here we have not one but two. I can only wonder what happened to the case itself, and if it was discarded what warranted the owner to retain the front panel. Such a curiosity..

No idea in other country, at least here in spain because space problems is not.sooo uncommon to find front panels

Reply 2597 of 2713, by KdKitt

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Hi! I'll make my first thread here showing off this labor of love. I always wanted a Pentium Pro as a teenager, it was weird, huge, outclassed, beautiful. I actually owned an Orchid Righteous - anyway here's the specs. Meant to be a PC build from right around 97-99

Wall Mount from ABKcase on Etsy.

Motherboard is a P6FX1-A
Pentium II Overdrive 333
512mb of RAM
Sound Blaster Live (SB0220 but I did get good drivers working for it)
S3 Virge DX 4mb
Orchid Righteous 3dfx Voodoo 1.
Running Windows 98SE

I love it, it's maybe a bit of a odd build but golly.
I also have a Pentium Pro 200 looking pretty on a shelf near it.

The Sound card being a PCI card was a conceit of displaying the Voodoo so Proudly, but it's working now

I'm looking forward to playing some 3dfx games of the Era, and some other games that should run ok. Tomb Raider, MechWarrior 2, Rogue Squadron, Diablo. I am 4th place on SpeedRunning Magic the Gathering Shadalar (1997) and Speedrun Jazz Jackrabbit a bit (though I may have to Tinker to get it not to run too fast on this.. but I have Dosbox on my Steam Deck if not).

If you are curious I run a desktop fan blowing across the CPU when in operation. Air flow seems to cool if sufficiently

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Reply 2598 of 2713, by gerry

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KdKitt wrote on 2024-02-02, 13:54:
Hi! I'll make my first thread here showing off this labor of love. I always wanted a Pentium Pro as a teenager, it was weird, h […]
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Hi! I'll make my first thread here showing off this labor of love. I always wanted a Pentium Pro as a teenager, it was weird, huge, outclassed, beautiful. I actually owned an Orchid Righteous - anyway here's the specs. Meant to be a PC build from right around 97-99

Wall Mount from ABKcase on Etsy.

Motherboard is a P6FX1-A
Pentium II Overdrive 333
512mb of RAM
Sound Blaster Live (SB0220 but I did get good drivers working for it)
S3 Virge DX 4mb
Orchid Righteous 3dfx Voodoo 1.
Running Windows 98SE

I love it, it's maybe a bit of a odd build but golly.
I also have a Pentium Pro 200 looking pretty on a shelf near it.

The Sound card being a PCI card was a conceit of displaying the Voodoo so Proudly, but it's working now

I'm looking forward to playing some 3dfx games of the Era, and some other games that should run ok. Tomb Raider, MechWarrior 2, Rogue Squadron, Diablo. I am 4th place on SpeedRunning Magic the Gathering Shadalar (1997) and Speedrun Jazz Jackrabbit a bit (though I may have to Tinker to get it not to run too fast on this.. but I have Dosbox on my Steam Deck if not).

If you are curious I run a desktop fan blowing across the CPU when in operation. Air flow seems to cool if sufficiently

I hadn't seen a wall mounted approach like this before, i like it! Suddenly i'm thinking "... all that wall space and all these motherboards.! " 😀

Reply 2599 of 2713, by PcBytes

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appiah4 wrote on 2024-02-02, 12:38:

I've seen many cases with destroyed front panels but never a panel without a case but here we have not one but two. I can only wonder what happened to the case itself, and if it was discarded what warranted the owner to retain the front panel. Such a curiosity..

Likely rusted metals on the case or stripped screw holes beyond any fix.

I had to do such a thing to an AGER branded case w/ sliding front cover (which @Robert B also owns if I remember correctly) because not only it was rusty on the metals frame - the screw holes were so stripped that even with washers I couldn't get the case closed properly.

I still have the front panel although with a salvaged momentary button (similar in form to AT switches but momentary - wired it so I could use ATX PSUs in that case.

I do love @theelf's approach, and if I ever manage to find one of those vertical mounted PSU cases (which seem to be the standard Deer/JNC OEM stuff- methinks I might also get away with some of their older cases as well, as long as the mounting tray is similar to @theelf's case).

Something like this one I had is what I have in mind - they're far more common than the one @theelf used and nearly share the same build design, more or less.

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