not shure what settings i need to change i even tried a isa vga card same problem very strange
i could try and load soundblaster firmware need to figure out how and test

scroeffie wrote on 2024-06-08, 06:39:

Pickle wrote on 2024-06-07, 18:58:

scroeffie wrote on 2024-06-07, 15:12:

i just tested the games again https://youtu.be/Dih-_O4_jqE?si=HML1wb5TkGueiCsn

does your bios have a clock option for the ISA bus like CLK/4 or CLK/8. If you do try selecting the largest divisor option to slow the isa bus down.

i have that option i think its a ami bios if i slow it down wil that effect the soundcard and the ide controller card ?

yes technically it will run all the cards on the ISA at the speed selected, but the idea is to try and make it standard speed or slower to see if it starts working. I see the other post for the AT Bus clock option did you originally have the 7 mhz option selected?

iam out of ideas
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https://youtu.be/g0sxZ_10_RA?si=CPVsl73rdwdIDIrN

rasz_pl wrote on 2024-06-08, 01:10:

airs wrote on 2024-06-08, 00:28:

Is there a way to configure this? Some games require five or six buttons (Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter).

do any of those games somehow support more than 4 buttons from a gameport?

Yes, they used both inputs to achieve I believe (which is similar to how the PicoGUS joystick support works currently, it just has a different mapping) - so you’re not able to play two players with two 6 button controllers. You could put one person on keyboard and another on a six button controller, though.

scroeffie wrote on 2024-06-08, 16:54:

iam out of ideas
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https://youtu.be/g0sxZ_10_RA?si=CPVsl73rdwdIDIrN

the 7 mhz is the most compatible selection. Pretty sure your FSB is 33 mhz, so /4 would be 8.25 and a /3 is 11. In other words the /3 /4 let you overclock the ISA bus, which was the reason i asked about it in the other post.
slow refresh is a setting for the ram and when enabled might give a small performance increase, disable for now is fine. Dont think its related.
Can you try the soundblaster/adlib firmware with duke3d?
Other things i would try is switching resources to different irq/dma. Remember to update the ULTRASND variable.
I doubt anything PCI related is causing your problem. I had something similar with doom and the 2.0 cards but the bug was fixed.

airs wrote on 2024-06-08, 16:54:

rasz_pl wrote on 2024-06-08, 01:10:

do any of those games somehow support more than 4 buttons from a gameport?

Yes, they used both inputs to achieve I believe (which is similar to how the PicoGUS joystick support works currently, it just has a different mapping) - so you’re not able to play two players with two 6 button controllers. You could put one person on keyboard and another on a six button controller, though.

Look at gameport pinout, its 4 buttons total, two per joystick.

rasz_pl wrote on 2024-06-08, 18:39:

airs wrote on 2024-06-08, 16:54:

rasz_pl wrote on 2024-06-08, 01:10:

do any of those games somehow support more than 4 buttons from a gameport?

Yes, they used both inputs to achieve I believe (which is similar to how the PicoGUS joystick support works currently, it just has a different mapping) - so you’re not able to play two players with two 6 button controllers. You could put one person on keyboard and another on a six button controller, though.

Look at gameport pinout, its 4 buttons total, two per joystick.

I think they use directional inputs as “buttons”

Pickle wrote on 2024-06-08, 18:33:

the 7 mhz is the most compatible selection. Pretty sure your FSB is 33 mhz, so /4 would be 8.25 and a /3 is 11. In other words […]
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scroeffie wrote on 2024-06-08, 16:54:

iam out of ideas
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https://youtu.be/g0sxZ_10_RA?si=CPVsl73rdwdIDIrN

the 7 mhz is the most compatible selection. Pretty sure your FSB is 33 mhz, so /4 would be 8.25 and a /3 is 11. In other words the /3 /4 let you overclock the ISA bus, which was the reason i asked about it in the other post.
slow refresh is a setting for the ram and when enabled might give a small performance increase, disable for now is fine. Dont think its related.
Can you try the soundblaster/adlib firmware with duke3d?
Other things i would try is switching resources to different irq/dma. Remember to update the ULTRASND variable.
I doubt anything PCI related is causing your problem. I had something similar with doom and the 2.0 cards but the bug was fixed.

i dont know what you mean with this part >> Remember to update the ULTRASND variable.
wil try tomrrow and test adlib and sb

scroeffie wrote on 2024-06-08, 21:20:

Pickle wrote on 2024-06-08, 18:33:

the 7 mhz is the most compatible selection. Pretty sure your FSB is 33 mhz, so /4 would be 8.25 and a /3 is 11. In other words […]
Show full quote

scroeffie wrote on 2024-06-08, 16:54:

iam out of ideas
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https://youtu.be/g0sxZ_10_RA?si=CPVsl73rdwdIDIrN

the 7 mhz is the most compatible selection. Pretty sure your FSB is 33 mhz, so /4 would be 8.25 and a /3 is 11. In other words the /3 /4 let you overclock the ISA bus, which was the reason i asked about it in the other post.
slow refresh is a setting for the ram and when enabled might give a small performance increase, disable for now is fine. Dont think its related.
Can you try the soundblaster/adlib firmware with duke3d?
Other things i would try is switching resources to different irq/dma. Remember to update the ULTRASND variable.
I doubt anything PCI related is causing your problem. I had something similar with doom and the 2.0 cards but the bug was fixed.

i dont know what you mean with this part >> Remember to update the ULTRASND variable.
wil try tomrrow and test adlib and sb

read over this page its describes how to setup the autoexec which contains the ULTRASND variable.
https://github.com/polpo/picogus/wiki/Configu … ng-your-PicoGUS

scroeffie wrote on 2024-06-08, 21:20:

i dont know what you mean with this part >> Remember to update the ULTRASND variable.

In your AUTOEXEC.BAT

scroeffie wrote on 2024-06-08, 16:54:

iam out of ideas
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https://youtu.be/g0sxZ_10_RA?si=CPVsl73rdwdIDIrN

Did you test an earlier version of Duke3D, like v1.3D? There are a lot of garbage versions of Duke3D flying around on the inter-webs... I usually try to get a game from 2-3 different sources just to be sure that one of them works.

i did not test a difrent version of duke or blood both are from REMOVED they always have the newest ready to go
i wil try and look for difrent duke and blood ,but descent works 100%
it could be the game version / REMOVED
can i choose any irq or dma number if i want to test soundblaster and adlib

found dukenukem 3d version 1.3d from REMOVED
its acting even more crazy wtf 😜 wierd thing is in setup the audio works perfect in game it goes crazy

https://youtu.be/oJ-5_eilFYA?si=6ytyNTctxzHSauax

scroeffie wrote on 2024-06-09, 09:34:

Please remove any references to those illegal downloads ASAP.

is this correct for soundblaster mode iam not getting any sound i loaded the firmware
dont understand these jumpers settings numbers

In Sounblaster mode I would expect you need to set the BLASTER variable instead of the ULTRASND variable.
Does the Wiki not elaborate on that?

i added this to my autoexec SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T3

but stil doesnt work i think the jumpers are wrong i dont understand the numbers on the card makes no sense to me a220 is adres so how do i set the adres ?
irq needs to be on 5 ? dma is correct i think and what is T3 ??

scroeffie wrote on 2024-06-09, 11:22:

is this correct for soundblaster mode iam not getting any sound i loaded the firmware
dont understand these jumpers settings numbers

Aren't you supposed to have 2 DMA jumpers? So, 1 jumper on IRQ 5, and a jumper on each DMA 1.

I really think you should go back to Polpo's configuration docs: https://github.com/polpo/picogus/wiki/Configu … ng-your-PicoGUS

Linoleum wrote on 2024-06-09, 13:20:

scroeffie wrote on 2024-06-09, 11:22:

is this correct for soundblaster mode iam not getting any sound i loaded the firmware
dont understand these jumpers settings numbers

Aren't you supposed to have 2 DMA jumpers? So, 1 jumper on IRQ 5, and a jumper on each DMA 1.

I really think you should go back to Polpo's configuration docs: https://github.com/polpo/picogus/wiki/Configu … ng-your-PicoGUS

I was about to say that and you certainly are. There's always 2 jumpers used for the DMA and therefore the DMA numbers above are double.

dma on the card 1133 < doesnt make sense to me

scroeffie wrote on 2024-06-09, 17:57:

dma on the card 1133 < doesnt make sense to me

a DMA channel on the ISA bus uses 2 signals, a request and an acknowledge.
Both jumpers need to be set on the same channel for a card to properly use a DMA channel..