try dfendreloaded. (check the dosbox general part of this forum, which is where I will move this thread as well)

Hi,
D-Fend should be able to work with DOSBox 0.72. The latest version of D-Fend can be found at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Fend. (I haven't checked if this is your version or a newer one.)

... But using D-Fend Reloaded is a good decision, too. 😀

Please do NOT use D-Fend with 0.70 or later. It seems to work, but fails due
to incorrect dosbox.conf settings which don't appear immediately.

Then I´ll try Dfend Reloaded. Thankyou.

wd wrote:

Please do NOT use D-Fend with 0.70 or later. It seems to work, but fails due
to incorrect dosbox.conf settings which don't appear immediately.

I know D-Fend is ancient history by now and don't want to be annoying, but could you elaborate on that? A few weeks ago, as an experiment of sorts, I tried v0.72 with the latest D-Fend beta and it *seemed* to work fine after adding some of the newest options through the "configure dynamic options" feature.

Note that this was an experiment, I normally use DOSbox through DBGL or D-Fend Reloaded for DOS gaming.

and it *seemed* to work fine after adding some of the newest options through the "configure dynamic options" feature.

But isn't that (not even looking at other stuff like core, cycles that have changed input expectations - I don't know how or if D-Fend handles that) reason enough for telling newbies not to use it? For me the frontends reason for existence is mostly that newbies can quickly set up their games and play. If they need to figure out what to add to the config then they are probably better off just editing the conf anyway. For more advanced users like you this is not that much of an issue, you know what to expect and how to get it.

Edit: I know there are more reasons for frontends, I just shortened it since we tend to send new users with problems to frontends now and then

I completely agree newbies shouldn't use D-Fend, just wanted to know more about the problems that may arise from doing so. Just curiosity, I'm not questioning D-Fend is outdated or wd's warnings.

Some settings in the [sdl] section aren't handled by dfend but set to
bad values which caused several problems.

Frontends are good and bad. They are excellent when you HAVE managed to install the game, but they generally suck when it comes to INSTALL'ing the game in the first place. And that is the first hurdle any newbie needs to tackle.

True. I've noticed that games won't show fullscreen properly when told to use "fullscreen" mode and "original" resolution. What you get then is the so-called "stamp mode", in which the game screen only uses the central part of the screen and you get big black borders. It can be corrected by using a 2x scaler.

Anything else?

MiniMax wrote:

Frontends are good and bad. They are excellent when you HAVE managed to install the game, but they generally suck when it comes to INSTALL'ing the game in the first place. And that is the first hurdle any newbie needs to tackle.

So true. Plain DOSBox and manually mounting all necessary drives is the best way to install DOS games.

Still, you can create an "installing profile", using the INSTALL.EXE as executable and mounting both the floppy / CD-ROM and harddrive units. Did the trick a few times for me, when I was a newbie and didn't know how to mount stuff manually.

No besides that if people come up again with more ancient frontend stuff
i'll surely add explicit checks so you don't use them.

Alright, then. Thanks for your time.

Any reason for sticking to dfend?

No, it was just curiousity. D.B.G.L, D-Fend Reloaded, GR-lida and have far surpassed it.