Intel Core i5-13500 / AMD Radeon RX 6600 / Windows 11 23H2 (22631)

RX 6600 @ Stock clock

RX 6600 OC @ 2825 MHz core / 1900 MHz mem / 1600 MHz SoC / 2120 MHz FCLK

i7 1270KF stock
RTX 3070 founders stock

Xeon X5675 3.07 GHz (1 core used by Win98)
48GB DDR3 RAM (512 MB used by Win98)
Radeon X800
Windows 98
No OC, default benchmark

Hello guys, Second post from my P4-X1950Pro AGP With improvement Scores
Motherboard - Asrock P4i65G
CPU - Pentium IV Prescott 3.0Ghz HT (PGA478) (OC To 3.6Ghz)
RAM - Kingston 512Mb x2 ddr400 (1GB) (Dual Channel)
GPU - Ati Radeon x1950 Pro AGP 512mb GDDR3 (Stock Clock)
Windows xP Home Edition SP3 32bit (This it's new post after first with the same computer. Now with a Pentium IV less Hz than the 1st but highly Overclocked)
(First PNG it's from the Stock CPU settings (3.0Ghz))

(Second PNG it's from the Overclocked CPU Settings [3.6Ghz])

i've Waiting for a Northwood 3.2 HT Cpu bought from EBAY.... I will testing when gets delivery at my home
(Please if anybody wants to answer a question..... It's true that prescott it's very hot like people remember? My p4i65G MB Does not reach 50 degress in CPU Temp sensor at hwinfo. i has a zalman cnps7000a-cu Cooler with Max RPM in Fan Regulator)

Loose tuning to the GTX770 under xp. I glued the separating tags with other labels.

I'll have to grab a screenshot and update, but at the moment with my P4 661 3.6Ghz OC'd to 4.24Ghz
and Radeon 9800 OC'd to 425.25Mhz/357.75Mhz for GPU/Memory respectively Im running at
21686 3dMarks from 2001SE

ErroneousHyphen wrote on 2024-10-12, 10:45:

I'll have to grab a screenshot and update, but at the moment with my P4 661 3.6Ghz OC'd to 4.24Ghz
and Radeon 9800 OC'd to 425.25Mhz/357.75Mhz for GPU/Memory respectively Im running at
21686 3dMarks from 2001SE

That's pretty much a maxed out 9800 Pro, about 22k.

Shagittarius wrote on 2024-10-12, 15:37:

ErroneousHyphen wrote on 2024-10-12, 10:45:

I'll have to grab a screenshot and update, but at the moment with my P4 661 3.6Ghz OC'd to 4.24Ghz
and Radeon 9800 OC'd to 425.25Mhz/357.75Mhz for GPU/Memory respectively Im running at
21686 3dMarks from 2001SE

That's pretty much a maxed out 9800 Pro, about 22k.

So you'd say I'm bottlenecked by the CPU do you mean?

Core2Duo/QFX3500(7900GS):

ErroneousHyphen wrote on 2024-10-13, 05:49:

Shagittarius wrote on 2024-10-12, 15:37:

ErroneousHyphen wrote on 2024-10-12, 10:45:

I'll have to grab a screenshot and update, but at the moment with my P4 661 3.6Ghz OC'd to 4.24Ghz
and Radeon 9800 OC'd to 425.25Mhz/357.75Mhz for GPU/Memory respectively Im running at
21686 3dMarks from 2001SE

That's pretty much a maxed out 9800 Pro, about 22k.

So you'd say I'm bottlenecked by the CPU do you mean?

No I would say that's about as fast as a 9800 Pro will ever go.

Shagittarius wrote on 2024-10-13, 17:36:

ErroneousHyphen wrote on 2024-10-13, 05:49:

Shagittarius wrote on 2024-10-12, 15:37:

That's pretty much a maxed out 9800 Pro, about 22k.

So you'd say I'm bottlenecked by the CPU do you mean?

No I would say that's about as fast as a 9800 Pro will ever go.

Ohh I getcha - yes it was only a relatively lazy OC for me, but I don't imagine I'll be able to push it much further without it starting to crash or overheat. I will get back to it someday soon to see if I can squeeze a little extra out of it but I think at this point it will be very small increases.

Does anyone know if there is a way to edit the "Description" saved into 3dmark 2001SE .3dp benchmark result files? There doesn't appear to be any way to actually edit the file itself. I have tried using Results Browser (which is an awesome piece of software for 2001 IMO) but it only allows you to change the description shown in that database, not in the individual.3dp files.

My issue is that over several years I have saved 3dmark results on dozens of GPUs I have tested in one of my machines and I only very recently realized that they all show up as "My Benchmark" when imported into the results browser. The file names all describe what they are, so I can easily just migrate that information over to the "Description" if I can just find a way to edit them.

If I have to, I will use a hex editor. This was many years of tests and I'd actually like to post the results in a thread at some point. It'd be nice to be able to have different databases of results shown without having to rename each result for each group of comparisons.

You should put whatever you want into that field BEFORE you run the benchmark.
After which you should be able to change it in Result Browser ?

^Just double left click on name (red arrow), and change name/description.

agent_x007 wrote on 2024-11-23, 13:44:

You should put whatever you want into that field BEFORE you run the benchmark.

Yes, I know that now, but that doesn't fix the multiple years of benchmarks that I ran before I knew that.

Since these results were gained by testing a card to see if it would pass, it was a bit impractical to enter all of the information for every card before knowing whether it would work or not. I try to enter things like core and memory clock speeds, memory bus width, etc. So it isn't a trivial amount of data to have to find and then enter if a card ends up not making it through the whole test.

agent_x007 wrote on 2024-11-23, 13:44:

After which you should be able to change it in Result Browser ?

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^Just double left click on name (red arrow), and change name/description.

Sadly, this doesn't change the file itself. This only changes the information associated with that .3dp file within that database. The bandaid solution to this, of course, would be to enter all of the information for all of the cards in a single database and then just make copies of the results to other databases, but that just makes my brain hurt a bit from a data-collection or data-preservation perspective, since the original results files will always be missing this information.

I was really hoping I was just missing some part of the Results Browser or some third party program that would allow me to edit the description after the fact.

If you want to change name of the .3dp file... can't you just do it via Windows usual "change file name" method ?
I don't think I understand where you "can't change file name"... well here's a sample of throwing multiple .3dp files into one and saving that as seperate (I think you mentioned it) :

As for "full card details", .3dp doesn't have a way to change "Rendering platform" field... because that would be "cheating" in a major way.
Can you make a screenshot and point where you want to add your notes, but are unable to ?
I simply fail to understand your issue at this point (I need some visual clues).

agent_x007 wrote on 2024-11-24, 11:24:

If you want to change name of the .3dp file... can't you just do it via Windows usual "change file name" method ? I don't think […]
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If you want to change name of the .3dp file... can't you just do it via Windows usual "change file name" method ?
I don't think I understand where you "can't change file name"... well here's a sample of throwing multiple .3dp files into one and saving that as seperate (I think you mentioned it) :

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As for "full card details", .3dp doesn't have a way to change "Rendering platform" field... because that would be "cheating" in a major way.
Can you make a screenshot and point where you want to add your notes, but are unable to ?
I simply fail to understand your issue at this point (I need some visual clues).

Yeah, I never said anything about changing the file name. And I'm not trying to change any of the system data gathered by the program.

In my first post about this I said:

Does anyone know if there is a way to edit the "Description" saved into 3dmark 2001SE .3dp benchmark result files? ... they all show up as "My Benchmark" when imported into the results browser.

If you do not fill in the "description", it is left as "My Benchmark". And this is saved to the .3dp file the moment you save it after running the benchmark. If you have 50 files where this hasn't been changed, you end up with this (pretend the results are different... all of the old benchmarks aren't on this PC right now.)

If I edit the description and click "save", it only saves these modifications to the database, not to the .3dp file.

So, for example, I have edited the description to provide pertinent data (RTX 3080 TUF (UV)), saved the database, and if I add the same .3dp file to this database again or to another database for different comparisons, the description is still "My Benchmark", because there is no way to save the changes to the .3dp file.

This shouldn't be a matter of preventing cheating, since anyone can change the "description" and "comments" saved in the database, and back when the online results could still be submitted, you could submit your results from the "Results Browser" with whatever you typed into those fields.

I just posted here to see if anyone knew of a way to edit the description (My Benchmark) that is saved to the .3dp file itself so that it would always be a part of the file, and, if I ever decide to add more descriptive information to all of these benchmark results files I could do so.

If no one has ever figured out a way to do this, it is most likely because the files are encoded so that absolutely nothing can be modified... but people figure out weird things like this all the time, so who knows? 😀

Ah, now I get it. Sadly that's not possible. Even in Hex edit 🙁
You COULD however open each .3dp in result browser, change whatever you need, and save that as new .3db file.
Changes to description will be saved in this new file (you can put it in the same folder as OG .3dp source).
The only inconvenience is that you have to move edited results from that .3db file, into the new database that is used for comparison each time you want to use those results (+ remembering to NOT override first .3db file you read).
Otherwise, by only adding edited .3db file, it will look just like the second screenshot in your above post (ie. without a way to get all scores in the same table)

agent_x007 wrote on 2024-11-24, 12:29:

Ah, now I get it. Sadly that's not possible. Even in Hex edit :( You COULD however open each .3dp in result browser, change what […]
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Ah, now I get it. Sadly that's not possible. Even in Hex edit 🙁
You COULD however open each .3dp in result browser, change whatever you need, and save that as new .3db file.
Changes to description will be saved in this new file (you can put it in the same folder as OG .3dp source).
The only inconvenience is that you have to move edited results from that .3db file, into the new database that is used for comparison each time you want to use those results (+ remembering to NOT override first .3db file you read).

Yeah, that is what I have basically accepted at this point. I will just maintain one database with all the correct descriptions contained in it.

At least the results browser allows multiple databases to be open at once in the file tree so I can just have one as the "main" database with all of the properly-described results, then just copy individual results to other databases for direct comparisons.

Again, it's mostly just one of those "but... but... I just... want the files to contain the correct data" obsessive data-managing mental things. Stuff like that really gets to me, and I am used to being able to correct most things like this via editing files somehow. This will probably stick in my craw for many more years. 🤣

EDIT: Also, I will put a sticky note on my test setup that says "3DMARK? = EDIT DESCRIPTION BEFORE SAVING!"... because I see that you can do that before saving the results after you have completed a test. I knew this button existed all along but I just never saw the point in doing it until I actually started messing with the results browser. It's a shame that the program uses the description as the label for each result on a chart, and you cannot tell it to use anything else for the label. Derp.

Hindsight! @_@

MSI MS-5169 VER:2.1
AMD K6-2/350
Riva TNT2 M64
384 MiB PC100
Windows XP SP3

It took four times the estimated time, some parts ran at seconds per frame, but hey, it made it.

GemCookie wrote on 2024-11-28, 20:25:

MSI MS-5169 VER:2.1 AMD K6-2/350 Riva TNT2 M64 384 MiB PC100 Windows XP SP3 […]
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MSI MS-5169 VER:2.1
AMD K6-2/350
Riva TNT2 M64
384 MiB PC100
Windows XP SP3

It took four times the estimated time, some parts ran at seconds per frame, but hey, it made it.

this is indeed a bit slow, i looked up my old results and found that i got nearly 900pts with k6-2-300(100*3) and geforce2ultra.
the video card surely makes some difference here, and i recommend using driver 30.82 for socket7 rigs with win2k/xp.