You can't do SLI with voodoo 3, but you could with voodoo 2's. You could even use a voodoo 3 as a 2D card and a pair of voodoo 2's as the 3D option, if you're crazy enough.
I don't see why this board wouldn't support tualatin but you will need to find the pentium III-s cpu's as those are the ones that support SMP.
Might need a bios update though.
Any pc 133 ram is probably fine, I would imagine.

Another cool thing about this board is that it's got a raid controller for raid 0/1.

The ABIT VP6 officially doesn't support Tualatins because it has the VIA Apollo Pro 133A (VT82C694X) - you have to modify it or use adapters for that. Tualatins are supported by the successor VIA Apollo Pro 133T (VT82C694T).

See also the ABIT VP6 spec page on my website -> https://soggi.org/motherboards/abit/VP6.htm.

kind regards
soggi

https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/1-4gh … p6-help.372735/

Tualatin... Might be a problem

Blaster32 wrote on 2024-12-09, 16:39:

You can't do SLI with voodoo 3, but you could with voodoo 2's. You could even use a voodoo 3 as a 2D card and a pair of voodoo […]
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You can't do SLI with voodoo 3, but you could with voodoo 2's. You could even use a voodoo 3 as a 2D card and a pair of voodoo 2's as the 3D option, if you're crazy enough.
I don't see why this board wouldn't support tualatin but you will need to find the pentium III-s cpu's as those are the ones that support SMP.
Might need a bios update though.
Any pc 133 ram is probably fine, I would imagine.

Another cool thing about this board is that it's got a raid controller for raid 0/1.

Thanks for the information! I assumed incorrectly that all Voodoo graphics cards could use SLI! Goo to know!

soggi wrote on 2024-12-09, 17:09:

The ABIT VP6 officially doesn't support Tualatins because it has the VIA Apollo Pro 133A (VT82C694X) - you have to modify it or […]
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The ABIT VP6 officially doesn't support Tualatins because it has the VIA Apollo Pro 133A (VT82C694X) - you have to modify it or use adapters for that. Tualatins are supported by the successor VIA Apollo Pro 133T (VT82C694T).

See also the ABIT VP6 spec page on my website -> https://soggi.org/motherboards/abit/VP6.htm.

kind regards
soggi

Thank you and cool website! I want to run 2 processors at the same time… what are the 2
fastest PIII processors I can run on the VP6 without modifications or adapters?

THANKS!

NT3, NT4, Windows 2000, XP, etc all support SMP.
If it was me, I'd dual boot Windows 98 and 2000

With the Voodoo 3, you'll have a very nice Win9x gaming rig and most 9x games run fine in Windows 2000.
Win98 is for the few games (if any) that don't like 2k.

It would make an ok early XP machine, but is a bit slow for that OS for my taste.

But yes you did good!

I ran xp on dual celerons back in the day - classic theme.
It was fine. In many ways better than my theoretically superior athlon later.
At a lan, it could download over wfs and emule as fast as the LAN, game, and burn a cd without underrunning.

SYZYGY wrote on 2024-12-09, 18:47:

Blaster32 wrote on 2024-12-09, 16:39:

You can't do SLI with voodoo 3, ...

Thanks for the information! I assumed incorrectly that all Voodoo graphics cards could use SLI! Goo to know!

That's correct AND incorrect! You can't do SLI with two single Voodoo3 cards (because of the missing hardware on the cards themself and for the AGP versions because of there's just one AGP), but the Voodoo3 GPU (codename Avenger) is SLI capable like every Voodoo generation (except Banshee!?). In theory you could put two, four, ... Avengers together on a board like 3dfx did it with their VSA-100 GPU Voodoo5 5500 and 6000 (VSA100 GPU) - Quantum3D did so on a prototype board.

SYZYGY wrote on 2024-12-09, 18:50:

Thank you and cool website! I want to run 2 processors at the same time… what are the 2
fastest PIII processors I can run on the VP6 without modifications or adapters?

Thank you too, you're welcome! The fastest socket 370 Pentium III Coppermine CPUs - supported FSB in brackets - are 1000 (100), 1000B (133), 1100 (100), 1133 (133). The 1000 MHz versions should be easy to get, the others could be more or less hard to find (just my guess).

chinny22 wrote on 2024-12-09, 22:52:

NT3, NT4, Windows 2000, XP, etc all support SMP.
If it was me, I'd dual boot Windows 98 and 2000

I respect chinny22's point of view, but I wouldn't put an OS on such a machine which doesn't support SMP (Win9x). The best option would be indeed Windows 2000 SP4 with all updates, but NT4 SP6 should also run perfectly. I wouldn't take XP, because I like to update OSes to the max and SP3 with all updates, .NET and stuff would be too much.

For testing I would also try Haiku (like suggested), which should support SMP at least basically, ... and ReactOS!

kind regards
soggi

Surprised no one wrote a driver for sli then. Though, I guess going agp >northbridge > pci and back again would be a bit crap

This wouldn't work, at least not with usable performance - the SLI GPUs have to be hard wired on one board or connectable via cable (like standard V2 SLI) or suchlike. The Quantum3D prototype has four Avengers on one board for instance.

BTW AGP isn't AGP with Voodoos, its just PCI66.

kind regards
soggi

Yeah, I was talking about the latency.
Slightly surprised we haven't seen someone hack it together with bodge wires

soggi wrote on 2024-12-10, 06:17:

chinny22 wrote on 2024-12-09, 22:52:

NT3, NT4, Windows 2000, XP, etc all support SMP.
If it was me, I'd dual boot Windows 98 and 2000

I respect chinny22's point of view, but I wouldn't put an OS on such a machine which doesn't support SMP (Win9x). The best option would be indeed Windows 2000 SP4 with all updates, but NT4 SP6 should also run perfectly. I wouldn't take XP, because I like to update OSes to the max and SP3 with all updates, .NET and stuff would be too much.

I agree, to some extent - I would definetely also prefer an SMP capable OS, but would probably also put 98 on for those games, that didn't like NT kernel ... 😀

Not much point having 2 if one is never used, but I get the sentiment

With dual Pentium 3s I'd run Win2k. This wouldn't be my first choice for a Win98 machine so if you have something else to run 9x on then I wouldn't bother installing it here.

But it depends what other systems you have. This *is* a powerful system for Win98. Not so useful for DOS 7 though (which comes with Win98) because there's no ISA slot, so sound would be a problem in DOS games.
If you want a high powered Win98 (not DOS) machine and you don't have anything else to install it on, then installing it as a dual-boot on this machine would be a good idea.
Also, I don't know if there's any limitations with Voodoo cards (or their appropriate games) on Win2k - I've never used one. They're definitely well supported on Win98 though.

H3nrik V! wrote on 2024-12-10, 07:56:

soggi wrote on 2024-12-10, 06:17:

chinny22 wrote on 2024-12-09, 22:52:

NT3, NT4, Windows 2000, XP, etc all support SMP.
If it was me, I'd dual boot Windows 98 and 2000

I respect chinny22's point of view, but I wouldn't put an OS on such a machine which doesn't support SMP (Win9x). The best option would be indeed Windows 2000 SP4 with all updates, but NT4 SP6 should also run perfectly. I wouldn't take XP, because I like to update OSes to the max and SP3 with all updates, .NET and stuff would be too much.

I agree, to some extent - I would definetely also prefer an SMP capable OS, but would probably also put 98 on for those games, that didn't like NT kernel ... 😀

Exactly people seem to be missing the fact I said DUAL boot.
I've only 4 games that I can't get working in Windows 2000. Return Fire, NFS3, NFS4, NFS5

So if I want to play one of those games I drop back to Win98 and the 2nd CPU is ignored.
But, if I'm doing anything else I'm in 2k and both CPU's are back in use

shamino wrote on 2024-12-10, 10:37:

With dual Pentium 3s I'd run Win2k. This wouldn't be my first choice for a Win98 machine so if you have something else to run 9 […]
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With dual Pentium 3s I'd run Win2k. This wouldn't be my first choice for a Win98 machine so if you have something else to run 9x on then I wouldn't bother installing it here.

But it depends what other systems you have. This *is* a powerful system for Win98. Not so useful for DOS 7 though (which comes with Win98) because there's no ISA slot, so sound would be a problem in DOS games.
If you want a high powered Win98 (not DOS) machine and you don't have anything else to install it on, then installing it as a dual-boot on this machine would be a good idea.
Also, I don't know if there's any limitations with Voodoo cards (or their appropriate games) on Win2k - I've never used one. They're definitely well supported on Win98 though.

V3 is perfectly supported in 2k/xp
It is the V2 which had issues there

chinny22 wrote on 2024-12-10, 22:59:

Exactly people seem to be missing the fact I said DUAL boot.

I saw that...but I don't like to have one core that isn't detected by the OS - therefor I would never run a non-SMP OS natively on a SMP system, no matter if dual boot or not. That's what I have said or wanted to say, but this is just my point of view. 😀

BTW I also wouldn't run an OS on hardware which is just partially supported. Deactivating a Realtek HD audio codec while having a sound card supported by Win98SE f.e. would be still OK, but not perfect.

kind regards
soggi

soggi wrote on 2024-12-11, 03:31:

I saw that...but I don't like to have one core that isn't detected by the OS - therefor I would never run a non-SMP OS natively […]
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chinny22 wrote on 2024-12-10, 22:59:

Exactly people seem to be missing the fact I said DUAL boot.

I saw that...but I don't like to have one core that isn't detected by the OS - therefor I would never run a non-SMP OS natively on a SMP system, no matter if dual boot or not. That's what I have said or wanted to say, but this is just my point of view. 😀

BTW I also wouldn't run an OS on hardware which is just partially supported. Deactivating a Realtek HD audio codec while having a sound card supported by Win98SE f.e. would be still OK, but not perfect.

kind regards
soggi

Haha whereas for me having the deactivated hardware in device manger isn't allowed.
As you say it's all just a point of view, everyone makes up little rules that mean nothing in the big picture 😀

If I were to build a Windows 98 game machine around my Voodoo3 and a couple sound cards,
I've sometimes thought the best system I have for it is a dual Slot-2 workstation.
If I ever get in the mood to build that, maybe I should post a thread for it just to set people off. 😀