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First post, by Kekkula

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I just found hp vectra es with working ega monitor from local thrift store.
Of course it had empty battery and you can only access bios from setup disk... So I'm not going to dive into that rabbit hole.
I tested the monitor with my euto-pc1 and image was good.
So I'm going to grab my 12mhz 286 with memory expansion card and swap vga adapter from it to vectra ega adapter.
It's same kind of setup I had as a kid.
I remember playing games like streed rod, eye of the beholder and grand prix circuit.
What are your recommendations?

Reply 1 of 28, by Harry Potter

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Well, I like the Commander Keen series, Crystal Caves, Duke Nukem, PC-Man and Hugo's House of Horrors. 😀

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Reply 2 of 28, by Harry Potter

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I also like Last Duel: other versions were good, but the DOS version had horrible sound. It's still okay, though. Lexi-Cross and Jill of the Jungle supported EGA.

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Reply 3 of 28, by Kekkula

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Thanks for the suggestions.

Just grabbed the machine and realised that it has both outputs 15-pin and 9-pin so no need for gpu swap.

Reply 4 of 28, by Gmlb256

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OverKill, an underrated gem. There is Secret Agent too, using the same engine as Crystal Caves.

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Reply 6 of 28, by rmay635703

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Loom, EGA trek, cd man

Reply 7 of 28, by Jo22

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rmay635703 wrote on 2024-12-23, 17:03:

Loom, EGA trek, cd man

The Last Half of Darkness Part 1 and 2, too? I think they use EGA.

Part 1 was available as shareware.
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Or how about Panic in Cobra City: Cobra Mission? To, um, test monitor geometry? :D
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The Colony supports various graphics modes, too, including Olivetti/AT&T 640x400 mono mode.

Zeliard uses 640x200 resolution mode, I think. Like PC-88.
Secret of Monkey Island 2 uses 640x200 mode, too, along with dithering. It's close to MCGA version in 256c.
MS Flight Simulator 4 has EGA/VGA support (v3 was 'like flying on rails').

Star Trek: The Rebel Universe supports EGA.
It's icon driven and rather pixelated, so maybe a good monitor test.
Atari ST version has higher end graphics, perhaps .

The games Star Trek: 25th Anniversary and Judgment Rites support EGA, too.

Visually impressive are Death Knights of Krynn and La Aventura Espacial, I think.
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Prince of Persia supports EGA.

Commander Keen series uses EGA, too.
That Hi-Tech Mega Man "port" for DOS is said to support EGA, besides CGA.

Edit: There are also lesser known games such as The Terminator, Test Drive, RAPCON: Military Air Traffic Control Simulator,
Star Flight 1 and 2, Teenage Queen, Poker Relay (9 Poker), Street Rod, The Adventures of Captain Comic,
Wizardry VI: Bane of the Cosmic Forge, Cosmo's Cosmic Adventure, Sky Roads and Kosmonaut

Edit: Also worth checking out is this thread over here: The year is 1990 and you still have a PC/XT and can't upgrade. Which games are you playing?
It's not about EGA games per se, but many interesting titles listed are from the days of EGA.
So maybe one or two titles may ring a bell.

Another interesting thing thst comes to mind might be the topic of liminal spaces.
There are early 3D games which do provide this specific atmosphere.
Real reason why old computer-generated virtual worlds are so fascinating

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Reply 8 of 28, by Kekkula

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Thanks.
Just played blockout, it has high resolution ega mode.
Pirates is interesting one, it starts in cga mode but let's you select ega after start animation.
It's a shame that darklands is only vga game.

Reply 9 of 28, by Jo22

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Kekkula wrote on 2024-12-23, 18:50:
Thanks. Just played blockout, it has high resolution ega mode. Pirates is interesting one, it starts in cga mode but let's you s […]
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Thanks.
Just played blockout, it has high resolution ega mode.
Pirates is interesting one, it starts in cga mode but let's you select ega after start animation.
It's a shame that darklands is only vga game.

Blockout is a good choice, indeed. It was on display on PCs back then (PC stores, advertisements).

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Reply 10 of 28, by mkarcher

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Jo22 wrote on 2024-12-23, 18:57:

Blockout is a good choice, indeed. It was on display on PCs back then (PC stores, advertisements).

Blockout is also an excellent choice for Hercules-based systems, although it feels a bit slow at 4.77MHz. It's a very decent software for the cheapo 286 with Hercules, though.

Reply 11 of 28, by mkarcher

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ntalaec wrote on 2024-12-23, 15:15:
World Class Leader Board (with RealSound) https://www.mobygames.com/game/448/world-class-leader-board/ https://cdn.mobygames.com […]
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World Class Leader Board (with RealSound)
https://www.mobygames.com/game/448/world-class-leader-board/
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"RealSound" is one of the earliest commercial libraries for playing digitized samples on the PC speaker, and indeed that golf game uses it quite well.

BTW, BlockOut, mentioned in another post, also uses some kind of digitized-on-PC-speaker solution.

Reply 12 of 28, by Kekkula

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I remember that my childhood computer was very slow on games like eye of the beholder 2 and such.
I just tested Indiana Jones and the fate of Atlantis and the game was almost unplayable.
I'm wondering if my card is slower because its doing conversion from vga to ega.
Maybe I should try vectra card.

Reply 13 of 28, by Jo22

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Kekkula wrote on 2024-12-23, 19:41:
I remember that my childhood computer was very slow on games like eye of the beholder 2 and such. I just tested Indiana Jones an […]
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I remember that my childhood computer was very slow on games like eye of the beholder 2 and such.
I just tested Indiana Jones and the fate of Atlantis and the game was almost unplayable.
I'm wondering if my card is slower because its doing conversion from vga to ega.
Maybe I should try vectra card.

Hi, is that an ET-3000? It's a fine card. Had advanced text-mode features that the ET-4000 has lost (pan, zoom, window zoom).

Both also have dedicated emulation modes via mode utility.
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Though in practice, EGA and VGA (except mode 13h) are like sisters/brothers.

Selecting CGA and EGA emulation mode on a VGA card via mode utility is rather useful to have the matching text-mode fonts of CGA and EGA on DOS or useful to force applications with auto detection into a specific video mode.

So maybe the card runs as an 8-Bit card (8-Bit bus)?
Also, is VGA BIOS being cached? Please check shadow memory option the CMOS Setup.
If not, please have a look at ET-3000 driver diskettes. A socalled "RAM BIOS" Installs a copy of ET3k VGA BIOS in RAM.

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Reply 14 of 28, by mkarcher

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Kekkula wrote on 2024-12-23, 19:41:

I just tested Indiana Jones and the fate of Atlantis and the game was almost unplayable.
I'm wondering if my card is slower because its doing conversion from vga to ega.

With Fate of Atlantis, I consider the EGA mode a useless gimmick. I had a 286-12 VGA system at that time which ran Fate of Atlantis perfectly in VGA mode. But starting it in EGA mode (just tried it because I could, I've been curious since my birth) slowed the graphics down that much that it just was not fun anymore. At the same time, the result of the dithering looked considerably worse than the 256-color VGA graphics.

I have problems imagining a system that was powerful enough to run the real-time dithering at an acceptable speed, and yet didn't support VGA. Thinking of it, it might be interesting to test that game on a PS/2 model 30 (8086, MCGA). Assuming you get enough storage into that machine (HDD or network), it should work well enough.

Reply 15 of 28, by Kekkula

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Well I do have PS/2 model 30 286, maybe I should give it a try.

The card is indeed tseng et3000ax and bios doesn't have shadow option, but I did find tseng directory from hard drive but I think its for et4000 there is fastbios.sys file.
I loaded it from config.sys and it takes over 30kb ram and has no speed effect at least in lm60.

Reply 16 of 28, by Kekkula

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I thought that card in vectra was some ati card but no it's chips card... Don't know anything about it.

Reply 17 of 28, by Jo22

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Edit: removed. My bad, was too much OT text.

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