matti157 wrote on 2023-01-08, 02:29:

I am building a similar pc but with an X58 supercomputer. -i7 930 -etherlink 3 -audigy […]
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I am building a similar pc but with an X58 supercomputer.
-i7 930
-etherlink 3
-audigy

I have switched the SATA controller to compatible mode. How did you handle the sata?

In compatible if I plug a random pci express card into the first X16 slot, the motherboard blocks the boot by giving me an error on the primary master (hard disk)

Also I want to try the drivers for X58 https://www.modlabs.net/files/experimental-in … rs#.Y7oqUC_SJE4

I used IDE Compatible on Marvell (Rampage II Extreme).
It simply worked fine for me, I didn't have your issue (with first PCI-e blocking boot, resource conflict ?).
Maybe Audigy is the issue here (forcing certain IRQ, and blocking other devices from sharing it ?)

I didn't used any 3-rd party drivers for 98, so I can't judge them.

@Intel486dx33 No OPL3/High quality MIDI = a "no go" for me for DOS games.
With triple+ OS boot you don't really need a working pendrive.
I simply downloaded stuff on XP to 98 partition/drive, restart, and I have things on my Win98 drive.
As for trasfering files between this and some other PC in home (assuming no WinXP and later ones), I think CompactFlash is most reliable method (with CF to IDE adapter connected to front panel or back one [depending what easier to implement]), and the least prone to mess up something else (as you don't need to modify old OS'es to work with it).

agent_x007 wrote on 2017-10-16, 20:21:

4) GTX 780 Ti will not work with 7900 GTX on Windows 98SE (if moded drivers are used).
Reason : NV driver falls apart if it sees 512MB of VRAM and another card. Unplugging GTX 780 Ti solves this issue.

Just noticed this, maybe you can apply the RLoew 512MB NVIDIA VGA BIOS patch, done that to my 7900GTX because it would hang at Windows boot or hanging the shutdown process after the soft patch. It saves the original BIOS, patches the BIOS and then flashes the patched BIOS.

Oh, this isn't that (driver I used already has Rloew patch applied).
Also, it wasn't issue with 7900 GTX since pulling GTX 780 Ti solved it.

My madness RyZen machine:

DarthSun wrote on 2023-11-09, 20:47:

My madness RyZen machine:

What are the Other devices in the device manager you dont have installed drivers for?

Under XP: GTX1650 and TPM encryption, it does not recognize these even with modded drivers. Also, there is a VESA driver for the GTX, it works, but it does not include the device ID.
The point is that the retro QFX3450-3500 works.
Win98: essential things work, e.g. USB with question mark, keyboard+mouse works regardless, modern lights too.

Variations, tests for my madness machines:
R3800X/B450Pro/QFX3500(7900GS)/3DM2001/Win98:

R3800X/B450Pro/QFX3500(7900GS)/SSys/DOS:

R3800X/B450Pro/QFX3500(7900GS)/3DM03/Win98:

R3800X/B450Pro/GTX1650/3DM03/Win11:

R3800X/B450Pro/GTX1650/3DM2000/Win11:

Variations, tests for my madness machines, continued:
R3800X/B450Pro/GTX1650/FinalReality:

FinalReality scaling in some variations:

R3800X/B450Pro/Voodoo2SLI:

R3800X/B450Pro/Voodoo2SLI/Win98:

DarthSun wrote on 2023-11-23, 04:11:

Variations, tests for my madness machines, continued: R3800X/B450Pro/GTX1650/FinalReality: 225621_r3800x_freal_w11.jpg FinalReal […]
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Variations, tests for my madness machines, continued:
R3800X/B450Pro/GTX1650/FinalReality:
225621_r3800x_freal_w11.jpg
FinalReality scaling in some variations:
225621_fr_ovk_graf.jpg
R3800X/B450Pro/Voodoo2SLI:
225621_madnessv2sli.jpg
R3800X/B450Pro/Voodoo2SLI/Win98:
225621_zen_98_v2sli.jpg

Hi, nice setup. Where did you get the PCI riser you are using for Voodoos?

Hi, nice setup. Where did you get the PCI riser you are using for Voodoos?

Hi, thanks!
I ordered from: https://es.aliexpress.com/item/10050052605487 … c%21HU%21%21ABS
I bought both the 1 PCI and 2 PCI versions, the former for the sound card, they all work well.

agent_x007 wrote on 2023-07-02, 19:18:

Oh, this isn't that (driver I used already has Rloew patch applied).
Also, it wasn't issue with 7900 GTX since pulling GTX 780 Ti solved it.

Sorry to raise this thread from the dead like this but it doesn't seem worth it to make a new thread just for this question. @OP, can you tell me which Nvidia drivers you used? I want to make a build with a 7800GTX for windows 98 and was wondering whether I'd need any modded drivers. Read this thread but there was no mention of it AFAIK. Also, none of the links to modded drivers which are guaranteed to work, 'out there', work anymore.

Let me know if this is OK. Thanks.

Maxstate90 wrote on 2025-01-09, 11:19:

agent_x007 wrote on 2023-07-02, 19:18:

Oh, this isn't that (driver I used already has Rloew patch applied).
Also, it wasn't issue with 7900 GTX since pulling GTX 780 Ti solved it.

Sorry to raise this thread from the dead like this but it doesn't seem worth it to make a new thread just for this question. @OP, can you tell me which Nvidia drivers you used? I want to make a build with a 7800GTX for windows 98 and was wondering whether I'd need any modded drivers. Read this thread but there was no mention of it AFAIK. Also, none of the links to modded drivers which are guaranteed to work, 'out there', work anymore.

Let me know if this is OK. Thanks.

NV82.69 https://theretroweb.com/drivers/96

DarthSun wrote on 2025-01-09, 14:21:

Maxstate90 wrote on 2025-01-09, 11:19:

agent_x007 wrote on 2023-07-02, 19:18:

Oh, this isn't that (driver I used already has Rloew patch applied).
Also, it wasn't issue with 7900 GTX since pulling GTX 780 Ti solved it.

Sorry to raise this thread from the dead like this but it doesn't seem worth it to make a new thread just for this question. @OP, can you tell me which Nvidia drivers you used? I want to make a build with a 7800GTX for windows 98 and was wondering whether I'd need any modded drivers. Read this thread but there was no mention of it AFAIK. Also, none of the links to modded drivers which are guaranteed to work, 'out there', work anymore.

Let me know if this is OK. Thanks.

NV82.69 https://theretroweb.com/drivers/96

Thanks a lot king! I might upload this to archive.org with added text about it being compatible for these cards. It was hard to find...

Maxstate90 wrote on 2025-01-09, 20:08:

DarthSun wrote on 2025-01-09, 14:21:

Maxstate90 wrote on 2025-01-09, 11:19:

Sorry to raise this thread from the dead like this but it doesn't seem worth it to make a new thread just for this question. @OP, can you tell me which Nvidia drivers you used? I want to make a build with a 7800GTX for windows 98 and was wondering whether I'd need any modded drivers. Read this thread but there was no mention of it AFAIK. Also, none of the links to modded drivers which are guaranteed to work, 'out there', work anymore.

Let me know if this is OK. Thanks.

NV82.69 https://theretroweb.com/drivers/96

Thanks a lot king! I might upload this to archive.org with added text about it being compatible for these cards. It was hard to find...

GeForce 8000 és 9000 it doesn't run with the driver, GEF7900 yes, but there you also need the Loew mod for the 512MB version.

DarthSun wrote on 2025-01-10, 07:41:

Maxstate90 wrote on 2025-01-09, 20:08:

DarthSun wrote on 2025-01-09, 14:21:

NV82.69 https://theretroweb.com/drivers/96

Thanks a lot king! I might upload this to archive.org with added text about it being compatible for these cards. It was hard to find...

GeForce 8000 és 9000 it doesn't run with the driver, GEF7900 yes, but there you also need the Loew mod for the 512MB version.

For example, R3800X 4C/4T HTOFF NV7900GS 3DM01 Win98:

Did you manage to resolve the issue with having two graphics cards in Windows 7?
Or does the problem not exist if one graphics card is Nvidia and the other is AMD?
Thanks.

Condor.07 wrote on Today, 01:57:

Did you manage to resolve the issue with having two graphics cards in Windows 7?
Or does the problem not exist if one graphics card is Nvidia and the other is AMD?
Thanks.

If you mean a forced displaying stuff on primary slot (regardless of GPU status), I don't think it can be fixed without Windows patch 🙁
It's not that you can't use two cards - You 100% can, BUT forcing Windows 7 to display stuff on "secondary PCIe slot" - that's what's problematic.

I think a GPU driver covering both cards could make a difference, but I didn't tested this yet (it also means you are "locked" to 306.81 if you own GF6-GF7 with GTX 680/670 for example).

Combining two different cards (ATI + NV or AMD + NV) might work if :
1) It's NOT a Windows issue (I think it is, ie. how it manages videos cards reasources but I may be wrong)
2) You are fine with using ATI or AMD card (depends on games/programs you want to run on your retro setup)

Unfortunately, there is no documentation available online.
I have set up dual graphics cards on various operating systems, and Windows 7 is the only one where I’ve encountered this issue—a problem I’ve seen others mention as well.
I’ve tried everything, including attempting to hide the primary graphics card by blocking its ID, but to no avail; the system simply fails to provide any driver at all.
Since I was previously using two Nvidia cards, I wondered if the issue might be resolved by combining an Nvidia card with an AMD one.
I’ll have an AMD card arriving in the next few days, so I’ll test that out...
As for the point about the Nvidia drivers themselves, I’ve read that too, but it doesn’t really make sense.