Thank you - working beautifully and repeatedly now 😀

I think that false positive - and the controller axes issue you subsequently found and fixed -were the two issue stopping it running for me - it now runs beautifully and consistently - amazing work - thank you so much!

All the best.

Grafix wrote on 2025-01-24, 17:02:

Hello again! […]
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Hello again!

Success! 🤩

The latest build let me run it - and using 4axis in the joystick section of the conf file also auto-recognised my wheel and pedal set even... I then had a very happy time racing at Laguna Seca. Ahh the memories came flooding back.

Thank you so much for sticking with this and your specific help to me too! Chapeau!

All the best.

Excellent news and yes, this build will go into testing this weekend, for release next week.

You'll have to add an exclusion for dosclient for both the store download folder and the dos execution folder (c:\icr2rend depending on your setup.)

sharangad wrote on 2025-01-24, 23:01:

Grafix wrote on 2025-01-24, 17:02:

Hello again! […]
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Hello again!

Success! 🤩

The latest build let me run it - and using 4axis in the joystick section of the conf file also auto-recognised my wheel and pedal set even... I then had a very happy time racing at Laguna Seca. Ahh the memories came flooding back.

Thank you so much for sticking with this and your specific help to me too! Chapeau!

All the best.

Excellent news and yes, this build will go into testing this weekend, for release next week.

You'll have to add an exclusion for dosclient for both the store download folder and the dos execution folder (c:\icr2rend depending on your setup.)

Understood - I will make sure to do so. 😀

@Sharangad How do I change app specific settings in the RReady app? I reinstalled Windows, otw to test i76...

Edit: here's the dark surprise, the game crashes again as before! The only thing I installed was DAEMON Tools, and Razer Synapse, if that's something that can interfere. Also I had to disable the shims because the EmulateHeap wouldn't let it see the CD

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-25, 12:27:

@Sharangad How do I change app specific settings in the RReady app? I reinstalled Windows, otw to test i76...

Edit: here's the dark surprise, the game crashes again as before! The only thing I installed was DAEMON Tools, and Razer Synapse, if that's something that can interfere. Also I had to disable the shims because the EmulateHeap wouldn't let it see the CD

Add the app to Rlauncher's win tab (i76. Exe) and click rendition settings.

I don't know what's up with that. I'm working with my gog copy. I tried a CD based install and it doesn't work, I just cant install it.

sharangad wrote on 2025-01-25, 12:49:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-25, 12:27:

@Sharangad How do I change app specific settings in the RReady app? I reinstalled Windows, otw to test i76...

Edit: here's the dark surprise, the game crashes again as before! The only thing I installed was DAEMON Tools, and Razer Synapse, if that's something that can interfere. Also I had to disable the shims because the EmulateHeap wouldn't let it see the CD

Add the app to Rlauncher's win tab (i76. Exe) and click rendition settings.

I don't know what's up with that. I'm working with my gog copy. I tried a CD based install and it doesn't work, I just cant install it.

The CD installer doesn't work. I just copied all the files to the CD from Disc 1, and applied these reg fixes (redirecting to where my HDD files are) and disabled EmulateHeap so that it sees the CD

1Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
2
3[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\I76.exe]
4"Path"="I:\\I76"
5@="I:\\I76\\I76.exe"
6
7[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Activision\Interstate '76]
8
9[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Activision\Interstate '76\1.082]

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-25, 12:53:

The CD installer doesn't work. I just copied all the files to the CD from Disc 1, and applied these reg fixes (redirecting to wh […]
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sharangad wrote on 2025-01-25, 12:49:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-25, 12:27:

@Sharangad How do I change app specific settings in the RReady app? I reinstalled Windows, otw to test i76...

Edit: here's the dark surprise, the game crashes again as before! The only thing I installed was DAEMON Tools, and Razer Synapse, if that's something that can interfere. Also I had to disable the shims because the EmulateHeap wouldn't let it see the CD

Add the app to Rlauncher's win tab (i76. Exe) and click rendition settings.

I don't know what's up with that. I'm working with my gog copy. I tried a CD based install and it doesn't work, I just cant install it.

The CD installer doesn't work. I just copied all the files to the CD from Disc 1, and applied these reg fixes (redirecting to where my HDD files are) and disabled EmulateHeap so that it sees the CD

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1Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
2
3[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\I76.exe]
4"Path"="I:\\I76"
5@="I:\\I76\\I76.exe"
6
7[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Activision\Interstate '76]
8
9[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Activision\Interstate '76\1.082]

I'll have a play around first thing tomorrow. I need to retest i76 for the next release.

[edit] team apache appears to have stopped working after the last windows 11(changed from 12 to 11) 24h2 update. Maybe I need to update the video driver. There wasn't an updated driver the last time I checked.

sharangad wrote on 2025-01-25, 12:55:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-25, 12:53:

The CD installer doesn't work. I just copied all the files to the CD from Disc 1, and applied these reg fixes (redirecting to wh […]
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sharangad wrote on 2025-01-25, 12:49:

Add the app to Rlauncher's win tab (i76. Exe) and click rendition settings.

I don't know what's up with that. I'm working with my gog copy. I tried a CD based install and it doesn't work, I just cant install it.

The CD installer doesn't work. I just copied all the files to the CD from Disc 1, and applied these reg fixes (redirecting to where my HDD files are) and disabled EmulateHeap so that it sees the CD

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1Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
2
3[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\I76.exe]
4"Path"="I:\\I76"
5@="I:\\I76\\I76.exe"
6
7[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Activision\Interstate '76]
8
9[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Activision\Interstate '76\1.082]

I'll have a play around first thing tomorrow. I need to retest i76 for the next release.

[edit] team apache appears to have stopped working after the last windows 12 24h2 update. Maybe I need to update the video driver. There wasn't an updated driver the last time I checked.

Btw I found a way to not make the game crash. but in that scenario the RReady fails to render.

If you let the game run without EXCLUSIVE directdraw coop level, the game won't crash with RReady. RReady will even load, but the game screen remains black and only the sounds are audible

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-25, 13:02:

sharangad wrote on 2025-01-25, 12:55:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-25, 12:53:

The CD installer doesn't work. I just copied all the files to the CD from Disc 1, and applied these reg fixes (redirecting to wh […]
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The CD installer doesn't work. I just copied all the files to the CD from Disc 1, and applied these reg fixes (redirecting to where my HDD files are) and disabled EmulateHeap so that it sees the CD

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1Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
2
3[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\App Paths\I76.exe]
4"Path"="I:\\I76"
5@="I:\\I76\\I76.exe"
6
7[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Activision\Interstate '76]
8
9[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\WOW6432Node\Activision\Interstate '76\1.082]

I'll have a play around first thing tomorrow. I need to retest i76 for the next release.

[edit] team apache appears to have stopped working after the last windows 12 24h2 update. Maybe I need to update the video driver. There wasn't an updated driver the last time I checked.

Btw I found a way to not make the game crash. but in that scenario the RReady fails to render.

If you let the game run without EXCLUSIVE directdraw coop level, the game won't crash with RReady. RReady will even load, but the game screen remains black and only the sounds are audible

This is a problem with the app and its directdraw surface. RReady doesn't need exclusive directdraw or even directdraw. It needs a window which is opengl compatible or can be made so. I don't know whether opengl is internally layered over some form of directdraw, but generally opengl and direct3d compatible windows can't switch renderer without recreating the window.

Can you confirm latest version stable is 14 jan 2025?
App is not anymore on the store?

Canadair wrote on 2025-01-25, 15:54:

Can you confirm latest version stable is 14 jan 2025?
App is not anymore on the store?

January 24 is the latest alpha. It fixes the dosbox-staging joystick bug. The last release was last week I think on Thursday or Friday, little over a week ago.

What do you mean by app is no longer on the store?

The last store release is January 17.

[EDIT] The Jan 24 Alpha has one more day of testing and then it'll be on the store.

sharangad wrote on 2025-01-25, 15:51:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-25, 13:02:

sharangad wrote on 2025-01-25, 12:55:

I'll have a play around first thing tomorrow. I need to retest i76 for the next release.

[edit] team apache appears to have stopped working after the last windows 12 24h2 update. Maybe I need to update the video driver. There wasn't an updated driver the last time I checked.

Btw I found a way to not make the game crash. but in that scenario the RReady fails to render.

If you let the game run without EXCLUSIVE directdraw coop level, the game won't crash with RReady. RReady will even load, but the game screen remains black and only the sounds are audible

I don't know whether opengl is internally layered over some form of directdraw, but generally opengl and direct3d compatible windows can't switch renderer without recreating the window.

I have seen games that use directdraw to create the window hwnd, at least, so it is possible some other components are sourced from it. While activating non excluusive fullscreen, this is the log from rready:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-25, 17:26:

sharangad wrote on 2025-01-25, 15:51:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-25, 13:02:

Btw I found a way to not make the game crash. but in that scenario the RReady fails to render.

If you let the game run without EXCLUSIVE directdraw coop level, the game won't crash with RReady. RReady will even load, but the game screen remains black and only the sounds are audible

I don't know whether opengl is internally layered over some form of directdraw, but generally opengl and direct3d compatible windows can't switch renderer without recreating the window.

I have seen games that use directdraw to create the window hwnd, at least, so it is possible some other components are sourced from it. While activating non excluusive fullscreen, this is the log from rready:

According to the logs, RReady is working just fine, it's just that its output isn't showing.

Mechwarrior 2 Titanium, i76 and i76 nitro don't run on Win11 24H2 with the January updates and DxWnd. MW2 Freezes on mission exit.

Nitro does run with dgvoodoo 2.84.1's D3d8.dll, D3D9.dll, D3dImm.dll and DDraw.dll. i76 runs with the dgvoodo dlls and dxwnd as does MW2Tit.

i76 runs wih dgvoodoo's dll in the i76 folder and the pre-packaged dxwnd from here:
for regular DPI displays:
https://nirvtek.com/downloads/DxWnd.RReady.v2 … d.RegularDPI.7z
high DPI displays:
https://nirvtek.com/downloads/DxWnd.RReady.v2_06_07_build.7z

[EDIT] Heavy Gear's cutscenes don't render with dgvooodo. On Win11 24H2. There's a plain blue screen.

sharangad wrote on 2025-01-26, 00:25:

[EDIT] Heavy Gear's cutscenes don't render with dgvooodo. On Win11 24H2. There's a plain blue screen.

That was always an issue with ActiveWindow, nothing new. I had it back in Windows 10 too

sharangad wrote on 2025-01-26, 00:25:

Mechwarrior 2 Titanium, i76 and i76 nitro don't run on Win11 24H2 with the January updates and DxWnd. MW2 Freezes on mission exi […]
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Mechwarrior 2 Titanium, i76 and i76 nitro don't run on Win11 24H2 with the January updates and DxWnd. MW2 Freezes on mission exit.

Nitro does run with dgvoodoo 2.84.1's D3d8.dll, D3D9.dll, D3dImm.dll and DDraw.dll. i76 runs with the dgvoodo dlls and dxwnd as does MW2Tit.

i76 runs wih dgvoodoo's dll in the i76 folder and the pre-packaged dxwnd from here:
for regular DPI displays:
https://nirvtek.com/downloads/DxWnd.RReady.v2 … d.RegularDPI.7z
high DPI displays:
https://nirvtek.com/downloads/DxWnd.RReady.v2_06_07_build.7z

Compatibility of these games now are as good as back then...

i76 runs as good as it did before + disabling EmulateHeap. One issue that I faced was it not seeing the CD, my CD letter was initially H:\, then eventually is now J:\ after I added 2 more SSDs. I had to enable the dxwnd Play from CD setting, which isn't supposed to solve these issues, but idk whatever it did fixed the issue...

MW2TIT doesn't crash on dgVoodoo2 on exit?

One thing you can do on all 3 games is disable the exclusive behaviour, I do it since they don't mess up games when I randomly get a Windows Notification.

Regarding the empty RReady output of last message, what can be done?

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-26, 06:28:

sharangad wrote on 2025-01-26, 00:25:

[EDIT] Heavy Gear's cutscenes don't render with dgvooodo. On Win11 24H2. There's a plain blue screen.

That was always an issue with ActiveWindow, nothing new. I had it back in Windows 10 too

I didn't know that. It used to work for me.

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-26, 06:28:

sharangad wrote on 2025-01-26, 00:25:

Mechwarrior 2 Titanium, i76 and i76 nitro don't run on Win11 24H2 with the January updates and DxWnd. MW2 Freezes on mission exi […]
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Mechwarrior 2 Titanium, i76 and i76 nitro don't run on Win11 24H2 with the January updates and DxWnd. MW2 Freezes on mission exit.

Nitro does run with dgvoodoo 2.84.1's D3d8.dll, D3D9.dll, D3dImm.dll and DDraw.dll. i76 runs with the dgvoodo dlls and dxwnd as does MW2Tit.

i76 runs wih dgvoodoo's dll in the i76 folder and the pre-packaged dxwnd from here:
for regular DPI displays:
https://nirvtek.com/downloads/DxWnd.RReady.v2 … d.RegularDPI.7z
high DPI displays:
https://nirvtek.com/downloads/DxWnd.RReady.v2_06_07_build.7z

Compatibility of these games now are as good as back then...

i76 runs as good as it did before + disabling EmulateHeap. One issue that I faced was it not seeing the CD, my CD letter was initially H:\, then eventually is now J:\ after I added 2 more SSDs. I had to enable the dxwnd Play from CD setting, which isn't supposed to solve these issues, but idk whatever it did fixed the issue...

So it works on your problem machine now?

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-26, 06:28:

MW2TIT doesn't crash on dgVoodoo2 on exit?

One thing you can do on all 3 games is disable the exclusive behaviour, I do it since they don't mess up games when I randomly get a Windows Notification.

MW2 doesn't work without DxWnd I think, didn't really try.

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-26, 06:28:

Regarding the empty RReady output of last message, what can be done?

RReady is rendering away without a problem the output just isn't visible. For some reason disabling exclusive mode breaks the window. I have no idea what I can do. I think some combination of DxWnd settings will make it work, I don't really know, DxWnd is a pretty complex app.

Team Apache also has issues, won't get past the opening cutscene, but I'm running that without DxWnd. Hitting [Escape] to abort the video results in a lock up and this is with the disc with the corrected video files.

******************************************
RReady Alpha,January 24, 2024 (Fully tested alpha build)
******************************************
https://nirvtek.com/downloads/RReady.Alpha.20250124.001.7z
MD5: 242a8a5a255d864026ae25a64bcd9ce3

- Joysticks should be fully functional in dosbox-staging-rendition. Dosclient being in focus causes Dosbox's SDL2 libraries to ignore joystick input.
- Screensaver and monitor idle is disabled while DOS/Speedy3D apps are running.
- Both versions of dosbox allow selection of joystick devices. This is done with:
[joystick]
usejoystickids=true
joystickids= id1|[,id2]
id1 and id2 are numbers from 0 to the number of joysticks -1. The id2 and the preceding ',' can be omitted to use just a single joystick. This defaults to 0,1 when usejoystickids=false. The logfile %localappdata%\temp\dosbox-staging-rendition.txt (or dosbox-rendition.txt) lists all available devices along with joystick number after launching dosbox.
- Pressing [ENTER] on Speedy3D (DOS) application exit will no longer maximise the Dosbox console.
- Regression: T*am Apache intro video locks up rendering the game unplayable (Win1124H2, January updates).
- Regression: M*ch Warrior 2 Titanium locks up on mission exist (Win1124H2, January updates).
- vQ*ake may have stability issues with both builds of Dosbox when a joystick is connected.
- Descent II videos should render better on older machines (Dosbox-Rendition, changes not ported across yet to staging).

This should be live on the Microsoft Store in a couple of hours.

sharangad wrote on 2025-01-26, 08:10:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-26, 06:28:

sharangad wrote on 2025-01-26, 00:25:

Mechwarrior 2 Titanium, i76 and i76 nitro don't run on Win11 24H2 with the January updates and DxWnd. MW2 Freezes on mission exi […]
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Mechwarrior 2 Titanium, i76 and i76 nitro don't run on Win11 24H2 with the January updates and DxWnd. MW2 Freezes on mission exit.

Nitro does run with dgvoodoo 2.84.1's D3d8.dll, D3D9.dll, D3dImm.dll and DDraw.dll. i76 runs with the dgvoodo dlls and dxwnd as does MW2Tit.

i76 runs wih dgvoodoo's dll in the i76 folder and the pre-packaged dxwnd from here:
for regular DPI displays:
https://nirvtek.com/downloads/DxWnd.RReady.v2 … d.RegularDPI.7z
high DPI displays:
https://nirvtek.com/downloads/DxWnd.RReady.v2_06_07_build.7z

Compatibility of these games now are as good as back then...

i76 runs as good as it did before + disabling EmulateHeap. One issue that I faced was it not seeing the CD, my CD letter was initially H:\, then eventually is now J:\ after I added 2 more SSDs. I had to enable the dxwnd Play from CD setting, which isn't supposed to solve these issues, but idk whatever it did fixed the issue...

So it works on your problem machine now?

It works sometimes, as it was previously, however the steps mentioned above is common for the ddraw, d3d, gdi games as well.

sharangad wrote on 2025-01-26, 08:10:

Team Apache also has issues, won't get past the opening cutscene, but I'm running that without DxWnd. Hitting [Escape] to abort the video results in a lock up and this is with the disc with the corrected video files.

I will test Team Apache tomorrow but I don't think it should've a problem

Team Apache works for me:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-01-27, 06:19:

Team Apache works for me:

Spoke too soon. Game is unstable now, sometimes works sometimes doesn't, just like I76.

I got a hard freeze on computer this time, prompting a hard reset