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Reply 20 of 45, by theelf

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Masejoer wrote on 2025-01-18, 18:15:
theelf wrote on 2025-01-18, 09:32:

I like to have one, i really wish!!!

sadly is too exopensive, crazy price!

Cases today are typically expensive, period, for anything with any thickness and quality. I'm still waiting for a reasonable price on a less-flimsy case without a side window, with a usb-c port on the front, and front i/o that is along the front edge so it's all fully accessible under a desk. I'm limited to $200 options...

For me a razonable price for a nice case will be 20-30 us dollars, and 30-50 with power supply, that is 1 to 2 days of my salary (i earn 15-25 day). When i buy towers to make computers to resell, normally are in this prices most of them in computers stores, and they have usb3, some even usbc, etc

Of course I understand this one is speciall because the retro look, but usd 130 is bufff.. too much, one week salary

Reply 21 of 45, by Shponglefan

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theelf wrote on 2025-01-18, 18:43:

For me a razonable price for a nice case will be 20-30 us dollars, and 30-50 with power supply

There is definitely pricing disparity across different locales. Where I live, a decent PC case starts at about $60 USD and up without a power supply.

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Reply 23 of 45, by dim0n

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Holy moly, I just wish, that this case had enough space to have beefier cooler space, so CD/DV-ROM will fit there, and more space for HDDs 😉
There is space just for one HDD, maybe in combination with one SSD:
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/3Yro6CvWXUZ9wEH7GbEvk8.jpg
Idea is to build "somehow enough powerful PC" with 980Ti and put on top of it an 19" CRT without stand for our retro LAN parties, where we play games like UT (+Tactical Ops), UT2k4, Q3A, CS 1.6, Warcraft3, AoE II, C&C series, Trackmania Nations etc...
Maybe m2 SSD and one HDD, will be enough 😀
I think I'll buy it, who cares about optical drive... I fall in love with this idea and I want to see my friends faces 😁

Reply 24 of 45, by lordmogul

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theelf wrote on 2025-01-18, 18:43:
Masejoer wrote on 2025-01-18, 18:15:
theelf wrote on 2025-01-18, 09:32:

I like to have one, i really wish!!!

sadly is too exopensive, crazy price!

Cases today are typically expensive, period, for anything with any thickness and quality. I'm still waiting for a reasonable price on a less-flimsy case without a side window, with a usb-c port on the front, and front i/o that is along the front edge so it's all fully accessible under a desk. I'm limited to $200 options...

For me a razonable price for a nice case will be 20-30 us dollars, and 30-50 with power supply, that is 1 to 2 days of my salary (i earn 15-25 day). When i buy towers to make computers to resell, normally are in this prices most of them in computers stores, and they have usb3, some even usbc, etc

For me reasonable has always been in the 40-70 range. Below that usally means too many compromises, and above that paying for the brand. With some outliers of course.

But I also notice a distinct lack of cases with decent build quality that put structure over fanciness, with a proper amount of expansion.

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Reply 25 of 45, by aries-mu

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Ha! There's a post about the SilverStone case on Vogons!
Great job friends!!!

Well, I've been trying to source it for a while, but nothing. I'm in Italy.

I called SilverStone, they said in the US should be available any moment these days, in the stores, but it will be a small supply.

In Europe, they're trying to convince the European retailers to buy it, but they don't want yet, because they believe there's no market (they're mistaken, there's a strong retrocomputing slice in the cake here).

I asked them whether or not they're thinking of making replicas of more popular 80s-90s cases, such as IBM PS/2, etc... They said they've got lots of requests like that and that the FLP01 will be the deciding factor. If sales will go well, they might proceed toward that direction.

They suggested that we, as consumer, push the rumor around, because the more people will buy the FLP01, the more likely they will make other products. And, in Europe, they suggested that we consumers blast requests to the retailers.

I called the editor of an Italian national print magazine, it's called Retrocomputer, by Sprea Editore, he's a friend. So I submitted an article, showing the case and explaining everything to the readers. It should be in the newsstands in Italy (and online) with the next issue, mid-March. I strongly hope this will give some push to the product.

Once the article is out, I'll send a photo to SilverStone to update them. I'll also propose that they make 4 beige standard ATX cases:

• A tall tower

• A mid tower

• A thick desktop (like the FLP01)

• A thin desktop

FRONT PANELS:

And then that they just use these same bare cases to make retro front bezels that replicate the 80s-90s products. So that they can simply put a bezel and the product is ready, based on orders or something. This should save time and money for both them and consumers.

REAR PANEL:

I will also suggest that, on those 4 standard cases, they make the rear panel easily replaceable, with 2 types available for each: an ATX one and an AT one. In this way, even people wanting to build true retro sistems with old AT or XT motherboards and parts, they could simply swap the rear panel and use it.

EXAMPLES

They could make plastic front panels for products like these:

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What are your thoughts on all this?

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Reply 26 of 45, by Aui

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I think AT cases are what is most desperately needed...

Newly made Retro styled AT/Baby AT Case

I also dont see any retro purpose in that silverstone case except for a new build in a retro case. For any real early ATX build you would need at least 2 drive bays for CD and Floppy Drive.

Reply 27 of 45, by aries-mu

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Aui wrote on 2025-02-18, 10:50:

I think AT cases are what is most desperately needed...

Newly made Retro styled AT/Baby AT Case

I also dont see any retro purpose in that silverstone case except for a new build in a retro case. For any real early ATX build you would need at least 2 drive bays for CD and Floppy Drive.

True.
Indeed, had this case been slightly taller, a few millimeters, it could have hosted two real 5.25" bays, and the USB ports could have gone under a little panel located anywhere else...

Still, there's such an absolutely total lack of truly retro-looking beige modern ATX cases (heck, even SIMPLY BEIGE modern ATX case), that this is still welcome.

We want more? Let's make sure to get this one's sales up to stellar levels... so that they will be motivated. Let's spread the rumor!
Not only that! If the sales go well and SilverStone starts making other cases, other manufacturers will also step in. We might be able to start the trend...

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Reply 28 of 45, by Tenorman

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Hello All,

First post in a long time. I saw this case online and I decided I had to have it. I ordered it from AeroCooler, which is the first US seller to carry it, and just got it yesterday. I then proceeded to rip apart my gaming PC and shove it into this new case.

Core i9 14900F
Asrock B760M PG SONIC WiFi
2x 24 GB DDR5 5600
AMD RX 7900XTX Reference GPU
Gigabyte UD1000GM Power Supply
Noctua NH-U9S CPU Cooler
Front panel card reader

A few things to note / be cautious of:
-Download and skim over the instructions in addition to looking over the specs at https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/product/inf … -chassis/flp01/. There are additional size constraints that aren't readily apparent.
-The biggest thing is the size of the GPU and CPU coolers. An RX 7900 XTX reference card is 123 mm tall. The max GPU height listed on the web page is 133 mm. I don't see how that would be possible unless you don't install the crossbar. You need the crossbar for the internal drive bays. Maybe you could get another couple mm with a right angle power connector.
-The max height for the CPU cooler when using the crossbar is 127 mm. I don't have a measurement, but it would be even shorter if you installed a full 8" optical drive. The Noctua NH-U9S I used fits with the card reader because it is shorter than a "real" optical drive.
-The top drive bay cover is hard to open. Some sort of little indent to grab onto would have helped. Someone asked about removing these fake 5.25" drive panels, maybe you could manage it, but I don't think they are meant to come off.

In the pics below, I posted the max CPU and GPU temps 3Dmark recorded in case anyone is curious what thermals are like.

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Reply 29 of 45, by Tenorman

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Posting 3DMark pics...

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Reply 30 of 45, by aries-mu

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Tenorman wrote on 2025-02-18, 18:39:

Hello All,

First post in a long time. I saw this case online and I decided I had to have it. I ordered it from AeroCooler, which is the first US seller to carry it, and just got it yesterday.

Wow!
Thank you so much for the useful info!
Great job.
I am not familiar with those thermal graphs. Could you say a word, just your conclusion about the results?

Could you also please specify the direction of the air flow for each one of the fans you installed in the case?

Thanks again!

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Reply 31 of 45, by Tenorman

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Take the temps with a big grain of salt because it is just a short 3DMark benchmark, just trying to get a general idea of what things are like.

GPU fully loaded is 66C.
CPU fully loaded is 71C.

Temps are OK. The CPU won't thermal throttle until it hits 100C. The average temp for a 7900 XTX in that same benchmark is 60C. 66 is a bit higher, but not anywhere near high enough to cause any problems.

The 3x 120mm fans on the sides are intake and the 2x 80mm on the back are exhaust.

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Reply 32 of 45, by aries-mu

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Tenorman wrote on 2025-02-18, 19:29:
Take the temps with a big grain of salt because it is just a short 3DMark benchmark, just trying to get a general idea of what t […]
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Take the temps with a big grain of salt because it is just a short 3DMark benchmark, just trying to get a general idea of what things are like.

GPU fully loaded is 66C.
CPU fully loaded is 71C.

Temps are OK. The CPU won't thermal throttle until it hits 100C. The average temp for a 7900 XTX in that same benchmark is 60C. 66 is a bit higher, but not anywhere near high enough to cause any problems.

The 3x 120mm fans on the sides are intake and the 2x 80mm on the back are exhaust.

Wow, very good!
Thanks!
So, even more, for a system I'm planning to build (God willing... if finances will allow me), which would be a low-mid range gaming PC, temps should be perfectly fine.
I don't have time to play games. I have tons of games, but none of the time. Occasionally, I can play a few matches on Saint Seiya Soldiers' Soul, very low sys requirements. I got some Battlefield, Call of Duty (never played)... some Alien & Predator... all the game I own were on some special discount, at least 40%... most of them 70% or higher... over the years... non of them are super recent games (well, except for the latest Robocop)...
Since finances are tight and my requirements are not high (and I'm happy with 1080p playing), I was thinking:

• MSI X870 GAMING PLUS WIFI
• AMD Ryzen 5 9600X
• Noctua NH-L12Sx77 low profile (obviously, I'd have to give up a beloved optical drive)
• MSI GeForce RTX 4060 VENTUS 2X BLACK 8G OC Scheda Video Gaming, 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express Gen4
• Thermaltake Toughpower GT 850W | Snow | Modular | 80Plus Gold
• WD_BLACK SN850X 2TB Interno SSD, M.2 2280 NVMe SSD with heatsink

What do you think about this setup both temperature-wise in the SilverStone case and performance-wise?

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Reply 33 of 45, by Tenorman

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I don't see any issues with it off-hand. The parts you have listed are a lot cooler and less power hungry than what I've got running, so they should work fine. The CPU cooler you have picked out is shorter than mine and the video card is a lot smaller. With the 77mm CPU cooler, you should be able to install something in the optical drive bay. You want to put something/anything there, because otherwise it is just a big gaping hole if you open the top door. It doesn't come with any kind of cover.

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Reply 34 of 45, by aries-mu

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Tenorman wrote on 2025-02-18, 20:07:

I don't see any issues with it off-hand. The parts you have listed are a lot cooler and less power hungry than what I've got running, so they should work fine. The CPU cooler you have picked out is shorter than mine and the video card is a lot smaller. With the 77mm CPU cooler, you should be able to install something in the optical drive bay. You want to put something/anything there, because otherwise it is just a big gaping hole if you open the top door. It doesn't come with any kind of cover.

Gotcha! That's reassuring. Thanks a lot!
Yes, I'd install some sort of multiport thingy in the 5.25" bay. After all, it's not a true retro system, hence, if whenever I need to use an optical disc, I can simply plug in a USB optical drive.
Thanks for your analysis of my hypotetical setup

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Reply 36 of 45, by Ozzuneoj

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I was reading about this recently. It's nice to see someone trying to sell a product like this. The style is kinda-sorta appealing from a retro perspective, but I think it is just a tad too modern looking for me. I also think they could make creative use of front panel shapes to allow for proper front to back airflow.

It would also be incredible if they included a rigid AT compatible I/O shield (DIN keyboard cutout + places to attach other ports) and possibly an AT-ATX PSU adapter (with -5v added) with one version of the case, or sold it as a separate kit.

Still... if Silverstone is actually watching whether people buy these to determine if more retro designs should be made, I definitely think people with a use for such a case (and the money) should grab them. This really needs to be a thing!

I was looking for a beige tower 6 years ago when I built myself a new PC and I ended up with a Fractal Define R6 USB-C in white with a solid side panel. It wasn't even close, but it was the least samey case I could find that was high quality and still had a 5.25" bay (for a SATA dock). I built my first black PC with a side window over 20 years ago, and they have never stopped being popular so I just don't find them that interesting anymore. I would much rather have it look like an old PC but have modern thermals, acoustics and conveniences.

I would also award HUUUGE bonus points if they could include some kind of toggle switch that operated as momentary but felt like the chonky switches from the 90s...

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 37 of 45, by aries-mu

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-02-20, 16:46:
I was reading about this recently. It's nice to see someone trying to sell a product like this. The style is kinda-sorta appeali […]
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I was reading about this recently. It's nice to see someone trying to sell a product like this. The style is kinda-sorta appealing from a retro perspective, but I think it is just a tad too modern looking for me. I also think they could make creative use of front panel shapes to allow for proper front to back airflow.

It would also be incredible if they included a rigid AT compatible I/O shield (DIN keyboard cutout + places to attach other ports) and possibly an AT-ATX PSU adapter (with -5v added) with one version of the case, or sold it as a separate kit.

Still... if Silverstone is actually watching whether people buy these to determine if more retro designs should be made, I definitely think people with a use for such a case (and the money) should grab them. This really needs to be a thing!

I was looking for a beige tower 6 years ago when I built myself a new PC and I ended up with a Fractal Define R6 USB-C in white with a solid side panel. It wasn't even close, but it was the least samey case I could find that was high quality and still had a 5.25" bay (for a SATA dock). I built my first black PC with a side window over 20 years ago, and they have never stopped being popular so I just don't find them that interesting anymore. I would much rather have it look like an old PC but have modern thermals, acoustics and conveniences.

I would also award HUUUGE bonus points if they could include some kind of toggle switch that operated as momentary but felt like the chonky switches from the 90s...

I completely agree on everything you just said.
And yes, come on friends! This needs to be a thing!
There's a lot of new retro replicas of products from non-PC fields (c64, etc.), but NOTHING for PC (both ex branded PCs and unbranded custom built ones). This might kickstart all that!

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Reply 38 of 45, by ShortstopGFX

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Tenorman wrote on 2025-02-18, 18:39:
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Hello All,

First post in a long time. I saw this case online and I decided I had to have it. I ordered it from AeroCooler, which is the first US seller to carry it, and just got it yesterday. I then proceeded to rip apart my gaming PC and shove it into this new case.

Core i9 14900F
Asrock B760M PG SONIC WiFi
2x 24 GB DDR5 5600
AMD RX 7900XTX Reference GPU
Gigabyte UD1000GM Power Supply
Noctua NH-U9S CPU Cooler
Front panel card reader

A few things to note / be cautious of:
-Download and skim over the instructions in addition to looking over the specs at https://www.silverstonetek.com/en/product/inf … -chassis/flp01/. There are additional size constraints that aren't readily apparent.
-The biggest thing is the size of the GPU and CPU coolers. An RX 7900 XTX reference card is 123 mm tall. The max GPU height listed on the web page is 133 mm. I don't see how that would be possible unless you don't install the crossbar. You need the crossbar for the internal drive bays. Maybe you could get another couple mm with a right angle power connector.
-The max height for the CPU cooler when using the crossbar is 127 mm. I don't have a measurement, but it would be even shorter if you installed a full 8" optical drive. The Noctua NH-U9S I used fits with the card reader because it is shorter than a "real" optical drive.
-The top drive bay cover is hard to open. Some sort of little indent to grab onto would have helped. Someone asked about removing these fake 5.25" drive panels, maybe you could manage it, but I don't think they are meant to come off.

In the pics below, I posted the max CPU and GPU temps 3Dmark recorded in case anyone is curious what thermals are like.

Hey do you know if you can put a CRT monitor on top and it would handle the weight? I got a 17 inch Compaq monitor that I could use for this but no one online is confirming if you can put a CRT on top.

Reply 39 of 45, by aries-mu

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ShortstopGFX wrote on 2025-03-06, 20:24:

Hey do you know if you can put a CRT monitor on top and it would handle the weight? I got a 17 inch Compaq monitor that I could use for this but no one online is confirming if you can put a CRT on top.

There is a metal bar in the center of the case, under the panel, but who knows... I think the only ones who can answer this question are the people at SilverStone.

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