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Reply 2220 of 2248, by bestemor

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Well, not 'bought' yet, but.... does anyone perhaps know how and where this contraption is meant to be installed ??

The attachment Bridge Bracket Fan Frame.jpg is no longer available

Tried asking the sellers, but just getting the 'chinese' answer of look in the listing/picture nr 2, which does not help at all(!) .
(if your pictures made any sense, I would not need to ask, duh ... sigh...)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126846094616

Reply 2221 of 2248, by Intel486dx33

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External Video card mount.
I was looking at these on Amazon for my HP z440
I want to Free up space and PCIe slots so I want to mount the video card outside the box.
I am thinking about hanging it from the side of my power supply
Fasten it with brackets and Velcro.

Oh, Maybe that is a Fan mount for the Top of the Case or Front of case ?

Reply 2222 of 2248, by hornet1990

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Bought another WD My Passport 4TB usb to replace a drive in my server which is suspect. To keep the electricity bill down I’m running a NUC 10th gen with two of said drives running in a ReFS storage space mirror setup for my media and a bit of redundancy of other files I’d rather not lose.

However the other day I noticed the fan was spinning quite a bit which is unusual and found it running a data integrity scan that doesn’t seem to want to finish. Looking at the event log revealed a load of intermittent disk events, always with the same one disk. So to be on the safe side I’m replacing it, even though smart and everything else says its ok.

I suspect the actual issue is a known ReFS bug so I’ll probably use the opportunity to trash the server (after backing up to another mirror in my workstation) and rebuild with server 2025. Everything is virtualised so it won’t take long to get it all back to normal.

The crazy thing is I’ve paid exactly the same price for the new drive as I did 4.5 years ago for the originals…

Reply 2223 of 2248, by bestemor

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Intel486dx33 wrote on 2025-02-26, 16:19:
External Video card mount. I was looking at these on Amazon for my HP z440 I want to Free up space and PCIe slots so I want to m […]
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External Video card mount.
I was looking at these on Amazon for my HP z440
I want to Free up space and PCIe slots so I want to mount the video card outside the box.
I am thinking about hanging it from the side of my power supply
Fasten it with brackets and Velcro.

Oh, Maybe that is a Fan mount for the Top of the Case or Front of case ?

It is a fan mount allright. You attach 3 (or less) fans to it, but then what ? 🤔🤣
Where/to what computer part do you attach it after mounting the fans ?
I assume it is meant for somewhere in the case, but I just don't get it...

Reply 2224 of 2248, by Trashbytes

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bestemor wrote on 2025-02-25, 20:09:
Well, not 'bought' yet, but.... does anyone perhaps know how and where this contraption is meant to be installed ?? […]
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Well, not 'bought' yet, but.... does anyone perhaps know how and where this contraption is meant to be installed ??

The attachment Bridge Bracket Fan Frame.jpg is no longer available

Tried asking the sellers, but just getting the 'chinese' answer of look in the listing/picture nr 2, which does not help at all(!) .
(if your pictures made any sense, I would not need to ask, duh ... sigh...)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126846094616

Its a fan bracket for side intake fans, you can put a AIO in that place or use the bracket to add three fans.

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You can see it here with the three vertical fans, this spot also accommodates a 360 AIO in place of the fans.

Reply 2225 of 2248, by Ozzuneoj

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bestemor wrote on 2025-02-25, 20:09:
Well, not 'bought' yet, but.... does anyone perhaps know how and where this contraption is meant to be installed ?? […]
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Well, not 'bought' yet, but.... does anyone perhaps know how and where this contraption is meant to be installed ??

The attachment Bridge Bracket Fan Frame.jpg is no longer available

Tried asking the sellers, but just getting the 'chinese' answer of look in the listing/picture nr 2, which does not help at all(!) .
(if your pictures made any sense, I would not need to ask, duh ... sigh...)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126846094616

The thing to take note of is the size of the fans in relation to the screw holes. This is not for case intake or exhaust fans, this is for tiny 40mm fans for some weird cobbled memory cooling solution:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bracket-Cooling-Supp … B0DMP839WT?th=1

It has the exact picture and the same hardware shown and the listing is titled:

"4cm Bridge Bracket PC Memory Cooling Fan Support Bracket PC Case Fan Holder For Computer Mainboard CPU Cooling Rack "

In short: You don't need this. If you need this, you've probably bought the wrong memory and should have just got something that didn't need to be overclocked to the point of needing three tiny irritating fans.

If you aren't intending to OC your memory and the case has any airflow at all, save your money and don't buy that. 😀

EDIT: Also, to answer your question about how it is installed, I would say that it is the usual case of "show pictures of things that make people think this is useful, but in reality it isn't for 99% of people". There is probably somewhere to mount a bracket like that in very specific PC cases... or ... maybe there isn't. It could be useless without drilling holes in your motherboard tray to attach the bracket (so that the fans blow into the RAM from the front of the case).

It's so silly though, considering most modern cases have front-to-back or side-to-back airflow already, which will send lots of air toward the RAM already... and... ugh... it makes my head hurt. What good would it be to blast tiny fans at the side of one RAM stick? Actual RAM coolers tend to shoot down at or through the slots to cool ALL of the RAM, like this:

https://www.printables.com/model/696948-ddr4-fan-mount-340mm

https://www.overclock.net/attachments/scetch-2-jpg.2543215/

EDIT2: Think of that bracket kind of like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Znoogrn-Adapter-Monito … r/dp/B0CF8GY8SD

Why does this exist? Why are they still selling it if there is a big warning that pops up saying that it's a "frequently returned item"?

Whatever the reason, it's the same reason that fan bracket exists and why there aren't any pictures of them installed, and why the sellers can't help you. They have no idea what they are selling or if any of it has any real use for anyone.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 2226 of 2248, by GigAHerZ

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At last upgraded my GTX1070 to RX 6700XT.
The games are so beautiful now. 😀

12GB of VRAM should help this card to be relevant way longer than 8GB 3060Ti and 3070 cards would. 😉

"640K ought to be enough for anybody." - And i intend to get every last bit out of it even after loading every damn driver!
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Reply 2227 of 2248, by bestemor

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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-03-01, 03:28:
The thing to take note of is the size of the fans in relation to the screw holes. This is not for case intake or exhaust fans, t […]
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bestemor wrote on 2025-02-25, 20:09:
Well, not 'bought' yet, but.... does anyone perhaps know how and where this contraption is meant to be installed ?? […]
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Well, not 'bought' yet, but.... does anyone perhaps know how and where this contraption is meant to be installed ??

The attachment Bridge Bracket Fan Frame.jpg is no longer available

Tried asking the sellers, but just getting the 'chinese' answer of look in the listing/picture nr 2, which does not help at all(!) .
(if your pictures made any sense, I would not need to ask, duh ... sigh...)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126846094616

The thing to take note of is the size of the fans in relation to the screw holes. This is not for case intake or exhaust fans, this is for tiny 40mm fans for some weird cobbled memory cooling solution:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bracket-Cooling-Supp … B0DMP839WT?th=1

It has the exact picture and the same hardware shown and the listing is titled:

"4cm Bridge Bracket PC Memory Cooling Fan Support Bracket PC Case Fan Holder For Computer Mainboard CPU Cooling Rack "

In short: You don't need this. If you need this, you've probably bought the wrong memory and should have just got something that didn't need to be overclocked to the point of needing three tiny irritating fans.

If you aren't intending to OC your memory and the case has any airflow at all, save your money and don't buy that. 😀

EDIT: Also, to answer your question about how it is installed, I would say that it is the usual case of "show pictures of things that make people think this is useful, but in reality it isn't for 99% of people". There is probably somewhere to mount a bracket like that in very specific PC cases... or ... maybe there isn't. It could be useless without drilling holes in your motherboard tray to attach the bracket (so that the fans blow into the RAM from the front of the case).

It's so silly though, considering most modern cases have front-to-back or side-to-back airflow already, which will send lots of air toward the RAM already... and... ugh... it makes my head hurt. What good would it be to blast tiny fans at the side of one RAM stick? Actual RAM coolers tend to shoot down at or through the slots to cool ALL of the RAM, like this:

https://www.printables.com/model/696948-ddr4-fan-mount-340mm

https://www.overclock.net/attachments/scetch-2-jpg.2543215/

EDIT2: Think of that bracket kind of like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Znoogrn-Adapter-Monito … r/dp/B0CF8GY8SD

Why does this exist? Why are they still selling it if there is a big warning that pops up saying that it's a "frequently returned item"?

Whatever the reason, it's the same reason that fan bracket exists and why there aren't any pictures of them installed, and why the sellers can't help you. They have no idea what they are selling or if any of it has any real use for anyone.

And here I thought it looked like something semi-interesting, that perhaps could (somehow) be used in some air-restricted retro case etc..... 😆
But could not for the life of me figure out how it was meant to function if so. And still don't. Oh well.

- Just bought a cheap handful of these little hairdryers 'instead', heh...
https://www.amazon.com/Evercool-Fox-computer- … r/dp/B0017UE3HS

The attachment Evercool FOX-2-fans.jpg is no longer available

PS: those useless(?) ebay thingies seem to come in various sizes, all the way from 40mm up to 90mm(!) for each fan, so not necessarily limited to memory cooling or whatever.

Reply 2228 of 2248, by Intel486dx33

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Reply 2229 of 2248, by StriderTR

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Parts arrived today, so I just updated my daughters PC to 32GB DDR4 3200, now she can mod Minecraft as much as she wants. 😜

She was running into issues with 16GB on both MC and Ark Survival Evolved. Those mods eat up a ton of RAM on both games.

Picked up a couple 2TB TeamGroup Vulkan SATA SSDs, one for my wife and one for my daughter. Getting rid of more spinning rust drives. The Vulkan drives are nice, affordable and work well.

Wife just had 2 HDDs die on her (Seagate Barracuda 2TB and SSHD 2TB), we replaced one with a proper 2TB NVME drive from Team as well, this new SATA will be the second replacement. No more NVME slots on her board, but if I need faster drives, can always get PCIe/NVME cards.

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Reply 2230 of 2248, by Ozzuneoj

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bestemor wrote on 2025-03-01, 18:04:
And here I thought it looked like something semi-interesting, that perhaps could (somehow) be used in some air-restricted retro […]
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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2025-03-01, 03:28:
The thing to take note of is the size of the fans in relation to the screw holes. This is not for case intake or exhaust fans, t […]
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bestemor wrote on 2025-02-25, 20:09:
Well, not 'bought' yet, but.... does anyone perhaps know how and where this contraption is meant to be installed ?? […]
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Well, not 'bought' yet, but.... does anyone perhaps know how and where this contraption is meant to be installed ??

The attachment Bridge Bracket Fan Frame.jpg is no longer available

Tried asking the sellers, but just getting the 'chinese' answer of look in the listing/picture nr 2, which does not help at all(!) .
(if your pictures made any sense, I would not need to ask, duh ... sigh...)
https://www.ebay.com/itm/126846094616

The thing to take note of is the size of the fans in relation to the screw holes. This is not for case intake or exhaust fans, this is for tiny 40mm fans for some weird cobbled memory cooling solution:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bracket-Cooling-Supp … B0DMP839WT?th=1

It has the exact picture and the same hardware shown and the listing is titled:

"4cm Bridge Bracket PC Memory Cooling Fan Support Bracket PC Case Fan Holder For Computer Mainboard CPU Cooling Rack "

In short: You don't need this. If you need this, you've probably bought the wrong memory and should have just got something that didn't need to be overclocked to the point of needing three tiny irritating fans.

If you aren't intending to OC your memory and the case has any airflow at all, save your money and don't buy that. 😀

EDIT: Also, to answer your question about how it is installed, I would say that it is the usual case of "show pictures of things that make people think this is useful, but in reality it isn't for 99% of people". There is probably somewhere to mount a bracket like that in very specific PC cases... or ... maybe there isn't. It could be useless without drilling holes in your motherboard tray to attach the bracket (so that the fans blow into the RAM from the front of the case).

It's so silly though, considering most modern cases have front-to-back or side-to-back airflow already, which will send lots of air toward the RAM already... and... ugh... it makes my head hurt. What good would it be to blast tiny fans at the side of one RAM stick? Actual RAM coolers tend to shoot down at or through the slots to cool ALL of the RAM, like this:

https://www.printables.com/model/696948-ddr4-fan-mount-340mm

https://www.overclock.net/attachments/scetch-2-jpg.2543215/

EDIT2: Think of that bracket kind of like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Znoogrn-Adapter-Monito … r/dp/B0CF8GY8SD

Why does this exist? Why are they still selling it if there is a big warning that pops up saying that it's a "frequently returned item"?

Whatever the reason, it's the same reason that fan bracket exists and why there aren't any pictures of them installed, and why the sellers can't help you. They have no idea what they are selling or if any of it has any real use for anyone.

And here I thought it looked like something semi-interesting, that perhaps could (somehow) be used in some air-restricted retro case etc..... 😆
But could not for the life of me figure out how it was meant to function if so. And still don't. Oh well.

- Just bought a cheap handful of these little hairdryers 'instead', heh...
https://www.amazon.com/Evercool-Fox-computer- … r/dp/B0017UE3HS

The attachment Evercool FOX-2-fans.jpg is no longer available

PS: those useless(?) ebay thingies seem to come in various sizes, all the way from 40mm up to 90mm(!) for each fan, so not necessarily limited to memory cooling or whatever.

Yeah, that's apparently the new way to market products. Just confuse the customer while insinuating that the product is useful... eventually SOMEONE will buy it and be too lazy to complete a return. 🤣

I also saw some of the larger ones and I genuinely have NO IDEA how someone would use those things without screwing some self-tappers into the case to hold the bracket.

As for the little hair dryers, just be careful where you put them. If they pull air from the case and blow it out the back you do not want it anywhere near the fan on an actively cooled video card since it will prevent it from getting air. Some creative duct work could make them super handy though. 😁

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 2231 of 2248, by Nexxen

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Bought a 6TB HDD
DOM is 2020 and out of warranty (I have to ask the seller because it was sold in a system).
SMART says it was out of factory, no prior use, 0 (zero) minutes.

I have to send it back and buy something else.

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Reply 2232 of 2248, by Trashbytes

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Nexxen wrote on 2025-03-04, 23:24:
Bought a 6TB HDD DOM is 2020 and out of warranty (I have to ask the seller because it was sold in a system). SMART says it was o […]
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Bought a 6TB HDD
DOM is 2020 and out of warranty (I have to ask the seller because it was sold in a system).
SMART says it was out of factory, no prior use, 0 (zero) minutes.

I have to send it back and buy something else.

did it not work ?

Reply 2233 of 2248, by Nexxen

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Trashbytes wrote on 2025-03-04, 23:54:
Nexxen wrote on 2025-03-04, 23:24:
Bought a 6TB HDD DOM is 2020 and out of warranty (I have to ask the seller because it was sold in a system). SMART says it was o […]
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Bought a 6TB HDD
DOM is 2020 and out of warranty (I have to ask the seller because it was sold in a system).
SMART says it was out of factory, no prior use, 0 (zero) minutes.

I have to send it back and buy something else.

did it not work ?

Perfectly fine, but out of warranty it's a gamble I'm not wishing for.
It's a EXOS enterprise if it makes any difference.

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Reply 2234 of 2248, by Trashbytes

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Nexxen wrote on 2025-03-05, 00:20:
Trashbytes wrote on 2025-03-04, 23:54:
Nexxen wrote on 2025-03-04, 23:24:
Bought a 6TB HDD DOM is 2020 and out of warranty (I have to ask the seller because it was sold in a system). SMART says it was o […]
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Bought a 6TB HDD
DOM is 2020 and out of warranty (I have to ask the seller because it was sold in a system).
SMART says it was out of factory, no prior use, 0 (zero) minutes.

I have to send it back and buy something else.

did it not work ?

Perfectly fine, but out of warranty it's a gamble I'm not wishing for.
It's a EXOS enterprise if it makes any difference.

Honestly cannot remember the last time I had to warranty a modern HDD ..except Seagate drives.

But hey its your cash and data !

Reply 2235 of 2248, by Nexxen

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Trashbytes wrote on 2025-03-05, 00:40:
Nexxen wrote on 2025-03-05, 00:20:
Trashbytes wrote on 2025-03-04, 23:54:

did it not work ?

Perfectly fine, but out of warranty it's a gamble I'm not wishing for.
It's a EXOS enterprise if it makes any difference.

Honestly cannot remember the last time I had to warranty a modern HDD ..except Seagate drives.

But hey its your cash and data !

What is the point of selling old stock and not giving warranty?
IDK if I'm getting old and cranky... 🤣

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Reply 2236 of 2248, by Trashbytes

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Nexxen wrote on 2025-03-05, 00:52:
Trashbytes wrote on 2025-03-05, 00:40:
Nexxen wrote on 2025-03-05, 00:20:

Perfectly fine, but out of warranty it's a gamble I'm not wishing for.
It's a EXOS enterprise if it makes any difference.

Honestly cannot remember the last time I had to warranty a modern HDD ..except Seagate drives.

But hey its your cash and data !

What is the point of selling old stock and not giving warranty?
IDK if I'm getting old and cranky... 🤣

We are all getting old and cranky !

Now get the hell off my lawn!

Reply 2237 of 2248, by Trashbytes

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Not bought today but a 3060ti and X570 motherboard combo I bought very recently just set itself on fire, took the poor thing apart to find the 3060 has committed sepuku and taken the X570 board with it.

From the looks of it the small power connector on the PCIe finger has melted through to the ground plane, if there was caps there they are also no more, made quite a mess of the fingers too and the slot on the motherboard was melted, it also toasted the BIOS battery and associated SMDs that sit next to the PCIe slot. (VRM is also next to the PCIe slot ...)

Haven't tested the CPU and Ram yet nor the PSU but considering the amount of power the GPU let lose and damage done I'm expecting PSU to have sacrificed itself stopping the power surge. The GPU was in use when it happened playing APEX so yeah .. it was quite the light and smoke show.

Im not expecting the CPU or ram to have survived the show but I wont know till I test them on another board.

Damn house now stinks of magic smoke.

Reply 2238 of 2248, by H3nrik V!

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Trashbytes wrote on 2025-03-05, 06:46:
Not bought today but a 3060ti and X570 motherboard combo I bought very recently just set itself on fire, took the poor thing apa […]
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Not bought today but a 3060ti and X570 motherboard combo I bought very recently just set itself on fire, took the poor thing apart to find the 3060 has committed sepuku and taken the X570 board with it.

From the looks of it the small power connector on the PCIe finger has melted through to the ground plane, if there was caps there they are also no more, made quite a mess of the fingers too and the slot on the motherboard was melted, it also toasted the BIOS battery and associated SMDs that sit next to the PCIe slot. (VRM is also next to the PCIe slot ...)

Haven't tested the CPU and Ram yet nor the PSU but considering the amount of power the GPU let lose and damage done I'm expecting PSU to have sacrificed itself stopping the power surge. The GPU was in use when it happened playing APEX so yeah .. it was quite the light and smoke show.

Im not expecting the CPU or ram to have survived the show but I wont know till I test them on another board.

Damn house now stinks of magic smoke.

Holy crap! Don't hesitate to share some pictures 😮

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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My new XGecu T48 programmer arrived on monday.
It was the second try, the first one vanished during repackaging in Netherland, but I got full refund from ebay.

I need to dump the Mach 32 ISA BIOS for a friend first.
Next to check two disfunct AHA2940 SCSI controller BIOS Chips.