Nexxen wrote on 2025-03-13, 23:42:

Is proposing paid-for services allowed?
I'd like to ask for money to someone in a thread here.

No problemo for paid services, don't you remember this 😉

Simplest answer would be to limit any offers of, request for or acceptance of paid for services to private DMs (initiated by either party) rather than have boards openly display / promote the same. Any service received can still be discussed openly without reference to whatever agreed remuneration changes hands.

I'm sure others may feel differently but, for myself, I'm comfortable with the general 'no selling' policy, and anything I might offer on these boards is FOC (including UK postage), done because I value the community rather than seek to make a return on it.

End of soapbox! 😀

PC Hoarder Patrol wrote on 2025-03-14, 03:39:

Simplest answer would be to limit any offers of, request for or acceptance of paid for services to private DMs (initiated by either party) rather than have boards openly display / promote the same. Any service received can still be discussed openly without reference to whatever agreed remuneration changes hands.

I'm sure others may feel differently but, for myself, I'm comfortable with the general 'no selling' policy, and anything I might offer on these boards is FOC (including UK postage), done because I value the community rather than seek to make a return on it.

End of soapbox! 😀

People still don't get me, but this is exactly what is needed, making it DMs and not a public paper with offers.
What a single user, albeit a moderator, can say isn't Terms of use binding.

My concern is some smart ass coming here and making it ugly.
I was asking a question, and my sentiment is shared. Maybe it's time to ask for an update of the Terms.

Also, mods would only have to link to one line in ToS.
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I posted there and thus I'm done on this. 😀

I have a few video cards that are collecting dust (metaphorically, they're in my hardware drawer) and I want to part with. If anyone's interested just DM me.

• ELSA NVidia Riva 128ZX (AGP) [reserved]
• ATi Rage IIC (AGP)
• 2x ATi Rage Pro Turbo (AGP) [1x reserved]
• ATi Rage XL (PCI) [reserved]

I also still have a few sound cards (listed them here before, but with the meta discussion about selling they're on a previous page):

16-bit ISA:

• PRO16PNP ALS100 with clone OPL3 (LS262+LS125A) [reserved]
• AV310 (CMI8330) [reserved]

PCI:

• ALS300 [reserved]

JAL

giving away for a shipping price.
preference towards take-it-all offer.

Fully working MiniATX PSU from Synology NAS.

Quadro 2 Pro
L800 in the upper right corner broke. Needs a replacement. This should fix the card. Been sitting in the "fix me" stash forever. I dont have the motivation.

Jaton VLB VGA
Produces artefacts. Not curious why.

For those that continue to post off topic posts in threads concerning compensation for worked performed:
Re: S3 Trio 3D/2X PCI Video BIOS
As was stated in the other thread "Feel free to open a new thread to discuss with facts the supposed current or future issue on vogons with asking compensation for work provided.".
This was never done so obviously it isn't that much of a concern, yet there is still the passive aggressive offtopic posting. I suggest looking inward rather than outward as to why this is such a concern.

pshipkov wrote on 2025-03-22, 18:15:

giving away for a shipping price. preference towards take-it-all offer. […]
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giving away for a shipping price.
preference towards take-it-all offer.

Fully working MiniATX PSU from Synology NAS.

Quadro 2 Pro
L800 in the upper right corner broke. Needs a replacement. This should fix the card. Been sitting in the "fix me" stash forever. I dont have the motivation.

Jaton VLB VGA
Produces artefacts. Not curious why.

If you still have the Quadro I am interested in it, though I can't seem to send PMs. I think it may be because I lurk too much and never actually post.

Long gone. Forgot to clarify here.
Only the PSU is still available.

I found something else I want to part with, but I doubt anyone here would be interested. It's an old Wincor Nixdorf LCD controller from a cash register, like this one.

JAL

somebody gave me these.
can be yours for a shipping price.

pshipkov wrote on 2025-05-11, 23:39:

can be yours for a shipping price.

I am interested in the 2600XT so I can locally check the Radeon R600 support in my SIV utility, where are you/how much would it cost to ship it to England please?

I am in USA. May be too expensive to ship such a card to UK, but if you confirm - we can proceed.

Btw, thanks for the SIV toolkit. Good stuff.

pshipkov wrote on 2025-05-13, 01:03:

May be too expensive to ship such a card to UK, but if you confirm

Thank you for your reply and making these items available. Looking at https://www.usps.com/international/first-clas … nal-service.htm it's $17.85. I just checked and there are Radeon 2600XT available locally for a similar cost so unfortunately the numbers don't really work.

working AT keyboard, for a shipping price

pshipkov wrote on 2025-05-15, 15:37:

working AT keyboard, for a shipping price

I had a keyboard exactly like that back in the day. I clearly remember the pen holder groove along the top. It was thrown out many many years ago when I moved continents. Would be funny if it actually was the one that used to belong to me. 😆

pass me a dna sample and i can cross-check if that's your guy.

somebody inquired about the kbd already, so if you want to take my offer - hurry up 😀

Yoghoo wrote on 2025-03-14, 02:04:

A couple of weeks ago DosFreak explicitly said multiple times in a forum posting that it is allowed to sell your services on this forum. So you can flood this forum with paid for services announcements as much as you want. If that's a good thing is another discussion IMO.

I would be surprised. Could you provide the direct thread links? Thanks.

feipoa wrote on 2025-05-17, 01:19:

Yoghoo wrote on 2025-03-14, 02:04:

A couple of weeks ago DosFreak explicitly said multiple times in a forum posting that it is allowed to sell your services on this forum. So you can flood this forum with paid for services announcements as much as you want. If that's a good thing is another discussion IMO.

I would be surprised. Could you provide the direct thread links? Thanks.

It was in this thread
S3 Trio 3D/2X PCI Video BIOS

specifically this one Re: S3 Trio 3D/2X PCI Video BIOS

please don't reply or comment further on this subject here in this thread since we're off topic.

Just read that thread and ..well that was a rather terse discussion quickly silenced by the mod.

My feeling is if you cant buy and sell hardware here then by rights you should also not be able to buy and sell services here, now if you want to do both of these via DMs privately then sure have at it but its a very slippery slope if they start allowing one but not the other they both have the same downfalls and problems.

Self promotion is also not allowed here so the allowance of buying and selling of services seems very odd when looking at the rules for the other two.

This really needs to be clarified by the owner of Vogons as it should be a complete blanket policy of no selling/advertising here of anything.

For clarity this is not about if people should or should not be paid for services, people should be compensated for their time and expertise but Vogons should not be a place to facilitate that much like its not a place to facilitate selling hardware items.

Trashbytes wrote on 2025-05-17, 02:00:

Just read that thread and ..well that was a rather terse discussion quickly silenced by the mod. […]
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Just read that thread and ..well that was a rather terse discussion quickly silenced by the mod.

My feeling is if you cant buy and sell hardware here then by rights you should also not be able to buy and sell services here, now if you want to do both of these via DMs privately then sure have at it but its a very slippery slope if they start allowing one but not the other they both have the same downfalls and problems.

Self promotion is also not allowed here so the allowance of buying and selling of services seems very odd when looking at the rules for the other two.

This really needs to be clarified by the owner of Vogons as it should be a complete blanket policy of no selling/advertising here of anything.

For clarity this is not about if people should or should not be paid for services, people should be compensated for their time and expertise but Vogons should not be a place to facilitate that much like its not a place to facilitate selling hardware items.

This has nothing to do with this giveaway thread and feipoa was replying to a post from almost two months ago that was already off topic... and it was relating to a comment in a thread that had already been derailed. If this needs to be discussed, then I would recommend either making a thread in Milliways or just private messaging the moderators in question.

This is exactly what DosFreak said at the end of the discussion that people keep derailing this thread with. If this is really that big of an issue, make a thread about it and ask for clarification. No sense making drama in unrelated threads.