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Reply 29400 of 29592, by dominusprog

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Came across this video yesterday. His parent probably bought these parts for him, but anyway, it's nice to see the younger generation took interest in vintage computing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrKyeK5UNrg

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Reply 29401 of 29592, by oh2ftu

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Duting the last few days;
- Built a 486 (well, 5x86-P75) with VLB graphics, SB16 and 3c509 NIC. Still need to finish up mTCP etc.
- Tested a BX6r2 and Soltek SL-54u5 and listed them on a local site
- Made some room in storage so I can relocate some of the built pc's in some place other than inside living areas
- Recapped a GF6600GT - haven't tested it though...
- Repaired said 486 motherboard and a 386 motherboard
- Gave theta 386 a case, hdd etc. Will need to setup bios etc. All in due time.

Reply 29402 of 29592, by myne

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I built a bootable dos based "service pack" iso for winme.

It's built off the very diligent work of iMic on ocau.

~5mins to patch ME up to the level of his automated, but slower installer.

It's crude and hacky, and needs proper testing, but it seems to work.

https://forums.overclockers.com.au/threads/sh … 8#post-19635402

25mb zipped iso.

Boot, run, reboot, done.

I built:
Convert old ASUS ASC boardviews to KICAD PCB!
Re: A comprehensive guide to install and play MechWarrior 2 on new versions on Windows.
Dos+Windows 3.11+tcp+vbe_svga auto-install iso template
Script to backup Win9x\ME drivers from a working install
Re: The thing no one asked for: KICAD 440bx reference schematic

Reply 29403 of 29592, by TheChexWarrior

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Bought those games from Retro Game Center Tel Aviv, in them event last week.

Reply 29404 of 29592, by dr_st

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TheChexWarrior wrote on 2025-03-17, 08:15:

Bought those games from Retro Game Center Tel Aviv, in them event last week.

Nice! I've been to that store, but they rarely have PC games I want. 😜
Curious about that "100 Best Windows Games" CD. Are these all demos, or is it a collection of pirated rips, like were popular in Russian and other east-European markets.

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Reply 29405 of 29592, by TheChexWarrior

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The Mission Jacklin need telephone approve, In the 90s systems.... 🤣🤣🤣 I need to find a hack to play that. You have also a official Compedia Pink Phanter, and Hebrew "You Think You're Smart, ah?" Game with a celeb here as a guider. Really childhood filings.

Reply 29406 of 29592, by TheChexWarrior

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dr_st wrote on 2025-03-17, 10:41:
TheChexWarrior wrote on 2025-03-17, 08:15:

Bought those games from Retro Game Center Tel Aviv, in them event last week.

Nice! I've been to that store, but they rarely have PC games I want. 😜
Curious about that "100 Best Windows Games" CD. Are these all demos, or is it a collection of pirated rips, like were popular in Russian and other east-European markets.

Shareware + Demos and free legal games. Some of them with Windows 95 port windowed. Very cool.

Reply 29407 of 29592, by PcBytes

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Been trying to find a good match for turning my childhood retro PC into a near-perfect Alienware Area 51 clone.

So far, I'm faced with the following array of boards. SCSI is a must by the way.

- Gigabyte GA-6BXU - REJECTED, only DIMM 3 and 4 slots work, and Primary IDE doesn't work.
- Gigabyte GA-6BXDS
- Gigabyte GA-6BXDU (thanks to @Socket 3 for the mobo!)
- ASUS P2B-S
(unknown yet) - ASUS XG-DLS.

CPU wise:

- Pentium 3 Katmai 500 single
- Dual Katmai 500 (6BXDS/6BXDU)
- Dual Coppermine 650 (same boards)
- Dual P3 Xeon (if the XG-DLS works)

I'm waiting on your thoughts. I have a lot of the other parts (TNT2 albeit it's a Pro, V3 PCI, Vortex AU8830) but I'm not specifically aiming at 100% correctness - think of Area 51 being the base specs and that I'd be upgrading it in any way over the years.

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Reply 29408 of 29592, by Susanin79

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First run for the Compaq ProSignia that I bought recently: Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today was ended with the fire show. One of the tantalum capacitors was blown.

Reply 29409 of 29592, by dr_st

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For the second day in a row I had to pop a key on my Thinkpad T430s keyboard (retrofitted classic 7-row) and clean some speck of dirt stuck inside the scissor switch which was making it hard for the key to be pressed fully and register. Fortunately, it's pretty straightforward on this keyboard.

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Reply 29410 of 29592, by Trashbytes

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Susanin79 wrote on 2025-03-18, 14:32:

First run for the Compaq ProSignia that I bought recently: Re: Bought these (retro) hardware today was ended with the fire show. One of the tantalum capacitors was blown.

Tantrum caps strike again !

Little fetchers love to throw random fits of electronic violence, the older they get the more cranky they be !

Reply 29411 of 29592, by Linoleum

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I finished my refurbishing job of this filthy and rusty AT power supply. Happy with the results. Good for another 35 years!

P3 866, V3, SB Audigy 2
P2 300, TNT, V2, Audigy 2 ZS
P233 MMX, Mystique 220, V1, AWE64
P100, S3 Virge GX, AWE64, WavetablePi & PicoGus
Prolinea 4/50, ET4000, SB 16, WavetablePi
486DX2 66, CL-GD5424, SB 32, SC55
SC386SX 25, TVGA8900, Audician32+

Reply 29412 of 29592, by yourepicfailure

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Did a partial recapping of the system control board of a BVW-50 portable tape recorder.
Notably, replaced the through-hole caps so I could put the board back before I forget how to put it back. The SMD electrolytics can be done while the board is installed.

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(anything with a teal marking is "to be replaced")

Result: it still is broken, but slightly less broken. It can now operate a camera without everything resetting (the camera shuts off then reboots, then shuts off after 5 seconds and reboots, repeat)
But still nothing but FForward, reverse, stop and play works. And with a camera attached, when I do the mentioned actions, it starts doing that old behavior again. BTW, the power management board has been recapped.

Improvement, but still broke. Would be fun to do component recording on this when it's fixed.

Reply 29413 of 29592, by StriderTR

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My "new" Windows 98 build finally has a proper home. I got it all crammed inside a nice tiny case the best I could. I really wanted to keep this build as small as possible to fit into my limited use space. Sure, I have room to store things, but I like to use what I build, so keeping this build small enough to fit where I needed it was a must.

I mounted the internal SD/IDE in a 3.5 tray to keep it secured to the inside front of the case, while the external SD/IDE I mounted to an open expansion slot with a simple adapter I printed so I could easily swap out files as needed.

I also added an extra fan blowing right over the chipset heatsink to help keep things cooler becasue the Athlon 3000+ and that chipset get warm. It's a quick and dirty mount, but it works, and it keeps it all a lot cooler.

Now I just need to wait on the stickers I ordered from Geekenspiel to arrive so I can dress up the outside of the case a bit. 😀

Overall, this build it working out really well. It fits in the space it's needed and it's performing wonderfully so far.

Case: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CHPRKW18?

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Reply 29414 of 29592, by dominusprog

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StriderTR wrote on 2025-03-20, 17:39:
My "new" Windows 98 build finally has a proper home. I got it all crammed inside a nice tiny case the best I could. I really wa […]
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My "new" Windows 98 build finally has a proper home. I got it all crammed inside a nice tiny case the best I could. I really wanted to keep this build as small as possible to fit into my limited use space. Sure, I have room to store things, but I like to use what I build, so keeping this build small enough to fit where I needed it was a must.

I mounted the internal SD/IDE in a 3.5 tray to keep it secured to the inside front of the case, while the external SD/IDE I mounted to an open expansion slot with a simple adapter I printed so I could easily swap out files as needed.

I also added an extra fan blowing right over the chipset heatsink to help keep things cooler becasue the Athlon 3000+ and that chipset get warm. It's a quick and dirty mount, but it works, and it keeps it all a lot cooler.

Now I just need to wait on the stickers I ordered from Geekenspiel to arrive so I can dress up the outside of the case a bit. 😀

Overall, this build it working out really well. It fits in the space it's needed and it's performing wonderfully so far.

Case: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CHPRKW18?

So, why not use a smaller (50x50mm) fan for the chipset? A smaller fan will cover all the fins, hence it'll do a better job cooling the chipset.

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Reply 29415 of 29592, by StriderTR

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dominusprog wrote on 2025-03-20, 21:42:
StriderTR wrote on 2025-03-20, 17:39:
My "new" Windows 98 build finally has a proper home. I got it all crammed inside a nice tiny case the best I could. I really wa […]
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My "new" Windows 98 build finally has a proper home. I got it all crammed inside a nice tiny case the best I could. I really wanted to keep this build as small as possible to fit into my limited use space. Sure, I have room to store things, but I like to use what I build, so keeping this build small enough to fit where I needed it was a must.

I mounted the internal SD/IDE in a 3.5 tray to keep it secured to the inside front of the case, while the external SD/IDE I mounted to an open expansion slot with a simple adapter I printed so I could easily swap out files as needed.

I also added an extra fan blowing right over the chipset heatsink to help keep things cooler becasue the Athlon 3000+ and that chipset get warm. It's a quick and dirty mount, but it works, and it keeps it all a lot cooler.

Now I just need to wait on the stickers I ordered from Geekenspiel to arrive so I can dress up the outside of the case a bit. 😀

Overall, this build it working out really well. It fits in the space it's needed and it's performing wonderfully so far.

Case: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CHPRKW18?

So, why not use a smaller (50x50mm) fan for the chipset? A smaller fan will cover all the fins, hence it'll do a better job cooling the chipset.

The one 50x50 I had in my "fans box" was on its last leg. Sounded like a mini rock tumbler when I fired it up. So, I just used what I had on hand.

It works good. Keeps that whole area of the board cooler. I mean, the fans not even necessary, I just prefer to keep this older hardware as cool as possible. If I ever get my hands on proper sized fan, I'll switch it out, but for now it works so I'm not all that worried about it. 😀

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Reply 29416 of 29592, by H3nrik V!

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Migrating my W98 disk setup to one ssd having both a Win98SE partition, an ISOs partition, a drivers partition and a partition with Win98SE install files and script for unattended install.
Holy smoke a reinstall is snappy now 😁

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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Reply 29417 of 29592, by StriderTR

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H3nrik V! wrote on 2025-03-20, 23:09:

Migrating my W98 disk setup to one ssd having both a Win98SE partition, an ISOs partition, a drivers partition and a partition with Win98SE install files and script for unattended install.
Holy smoke a reinstall is snappy now 😁

I was thinking about doing that. Currently using SD cards, one for the system, one for ISOs etc.

What adapter you using? I've got the one linked below, and it works, but It seems to be picky what drives you use with it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09GVDK2H1?

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Reply 29418 of 29592, by H3nrik V!

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StriderTR wrote on 2025-03-21, 00:38:
I was thinking about doing that. Currently using SD cards, one for the system, one for ISOs etc. […]
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H3nrik V! wrote on 2025-03-20, 23:09:

Migrating my W98 disk setup to one ssd having both a Win98SE partition, an ISOs partition, a drivers partition and a partition with Win98SE install files and script for unattended install.
Holy smoke a reinstall is snappy now 😁

I was thinking about doing that. Currently using SD cards, one for the system, one for ISOs etc.

What adapter you using? I've got the one linked below, and it works, but It seems to be picky what drives you use with it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09GVDK2H1?

https://www.startech.com/en-dk/hdd/ide2sat2

I read many places that the StarTech ide2sat2 was indeed highly compatible, and it works fine with my Hynix 128 gig drive - haven't tried other drives, though. But I think I'm gonna buy some more of them and maybe keep the ISO part as a separate disk I can use in all rigs, as separate rather than a partition ...

If it's dual it's kind of cool ... 😎

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Reply 29419 of 29592, by Sly_Botts

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I got the Retro PC itch last week and decided to try and build a windows XP/DOS system using an i5 3570K CPU. (Sorry for the long post but its been so fun)

CPU: Intel i5 3570K
MOBO: ASUS PBZ77-V
RAM - 2x4GB PC3-10600U-9-11 DDR3 (I know Windows XP 32-bit only recognizes 4GB of RAM however I wanted the RAM to run in Dual Channel so I left both in as it will still use memory from both sticks just not the full 8GB)
GPU - ASUS Geforce RTX 660 2GB
SOUND - Ensoniq AudioPCI 1370
PSU - 500W L&C B500E
SSD - Crucial BX500 2.5 SSD 240GB
ODD - Generic SATA DVD ROM from Lenovo SFF PC
OS - Windows XP 32-bit SP3, DOS 6.22

My first mistake was not using a separate drive for DOS but I'll get to that...

XP installation was a breeze. I had to set my BIOS to CSM, and SDD to IDE mode to avoid any compatibility issues. (Yes I know you can use drivers for AHCI mode but I didn't want to go there) . I partitioned the drive to use most of the 240GB but left a few Gigs for DOS. (First mistake). Once in windows I used Snappy driver to install most of the drivers except for video. Installed the appropriate .Net Framework and the video drivers (They need SP3 and .Net framework) even though I don't use GF experience, the install wouldn't proceed unless I meet the requirements for it. Anyway, long story short, the XP install was successful, no issues. Runs any XP era game very well, silky smoothe. I was even able to use an old Nvidia Inspector to limit FPS to avoid using VSYNC. The GTX 560/660/760 are great XP GPU's.

DOS was a whole other animal.

So I used my DOS 6.22 CD boot disk to run FDISK and partition the remaining space to 2GB for DOS. No issues, and I formatted the C: drive to be bootable. Here is where problems began. DOS likes to be the first OS installed because of something to do with the MBR... I don't know... all I know is it messed up the XP boot process so I couldn't boot back into XP without having to repair the install. The way I would change between OS's was to use FDISK to select my active partition when I wanted to boot to either OS. I knew at this point though that I really should have used a second drive for DOS but I wanted to trouble shoot some things so I could tackle that later. So I carried on. Anyway, I was able to get DOS 6.22 running with no problems, however, getting the sound to work proved to be a problem. Despite installing everything properly, (ie; config.sys, Autoexec.bat) it appears the motherboard just does not support PCI sound cards emulating ISA soundcards. Something about the way the PCI card emulates ISA cards doesn't jive with more modern motherboards. (I think it has to do with the fact that there is no longer a way to reserve PCI slots for ISA emulation.) So once I figured that out I knew it was pointless to try to use a 2nd drive (which is the right thing to do anyway). But hey I was just messing around and It's good to know that even if you have a PCI slot, you might not be able to get DOS to work with sound even if the PCI card has the ability to emulate ISA sound cards in pure DOS. I would guess that anything 2006 and newer lacks this ability.

That being said I switched it up and tackled my Early XP rig instead, to make that a Windows 98/XP system.

CPU: Intel Pentium 4 Prescott 3.2Ghz (OC to 3.6Ghz)
MOBO: ASUS P4P800-X
RAM - 2x1GB PC3200 DDR 2.5-3-3-8 (Edited system.ini to limit win 98 to 512MB, also used the MEMPATCH to avoid errors)
GPU - ATI RADEON x800 PRO 256MB AGP
SOUND - Audigy 2 ZS
PSU - Corsair CX450
SSD - Crucial BX500 2.5 SSD 240GB
HDD - 40GB IDE (I don't remember the brand, it's old though but still works)
ODD - Generic SATA DVD ROM
OS - Windows XP 32-bit SP3, Windows 98 SE

XP installation was again a breeze. Once in windows XP I used Snappy driver again to install most of the drivers except for video and audio. Radeon x800 Drivers were the Omega drivers that came out during Catalyst 6.1. Again, the XP install was successful, no issues. Doom 3 benchmark was around 75-80fps with high settings, no AA.

Windows 98 was a bit trickier but I was able to get it going. I had to enter my bios and make some changes. Had to change IDE settings to compatibility so that my SATA drives would be recognized in DOS and Win98, Had to disable Hyperthreading for the CPU and enable MAX CPUID Value Limit then switch my active drive to the SATA one. Booted from win98 CD, ran FDISK, formatted c: /s, copied win98 directory on CD to Windows/options/cabs on C: so I could install without the CD.

I then had to copy edit.com and HIMEM.sys to the C:\. I then created a config.sys file that contained (Device=Himem.sys /M:1 /V). Once I did that I rebooted and ran the win 98 setup. It went well however it reached a point where it said I didn't have enough memory, this is where I edited the System.ini file to read only 512MB of RAM. Installation finished with no issues. Once I got into windows 98, I installed the MOBO drivers, Catalyst 6.2 for the GPU, Audigy2 drivers VXD with DOS support as per instructions I found here on VOGONS. I then copied over some old DOS games and installed 3DMAX 99. The dos games ran great, with SB16 emulation and the 8MB AUDIOPCI .ecw file. Unfortunately I could not get the Audigy to work in pure DOS mode despite following instructions.

Success though. A decent XP system that also runs Win98 and DOS games with GOOD FMSYMNTH EMULATION and ENSONIQ GENERAL MIDI!.

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