I know Linux isnt used for very old games on new systems

On the contrary. It is used exactly for that.

Who needs official support anyway? Things work 'till they work then when your favorite stuff starts throwing missing API errors or glitching, then you consider a change of OS.

I am Ready.

I have Two Nvme SSD’s in My PC and I can Dual boot into Win-10 or Win-11 with a click of the Mouse.
It’s Super EASY in MS-Windows to setup.

Just install Win-10 on One Drive and then install Win-11 on the other drive
When you reboot Microsoft will ask you which Operating System you want to boot into.

It’s that EASY to Setup.

I am Still using Win-10
Microsoft has Fixed most of the Bugs in Win-10 Now and it’s Very Stable, Resilient, Reliable, and Dependable.
No more Blue Screen of Death System Crashes.
I just dont like the Graphical User Interface ( GUI Desktop ) in Win-11

So I will use Win-10 until it Expires.

Intel486dx33 wrote on 2025-05-07, 09:49:

I am Still using Win-10 Microsoft has Fix most of the Bugs in Win-10 Now and it’s Very Stable, Resilient, and Dependable. I just […]
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I am Still using Win-10
Microsoft has Fix most of the Bugs in Win-10 Now and it’s Very Stable, Resilient, and Dependable.
I just dont like the Graphical User Interface ( GUI Desktop ) in Win-11

So I will use Win-10 until it Expires.

Windows 10 expires 2032, you have long time before you must go with Windows 11 or 12.

I'm fine with 10 until support ends, i wont risk it online even if the risk is small. Around then i might even buy some budget win 11 system just to keep up with certain tools that are work related

all my online capable machines wont install 11 without trickery anyway so they will either stay offline or become linux mint ( I already use that anyway )

that will leave me with some offline machines frozen in time, and i'm fine with that - same as happened with some win 7 and before that some xp machines

Some people still use Windows XP, even for online, and I'm supposed to be afraid to use Windows 10, because OH NO SUPPORT HAS ENDED? 🤣

But I still remember when Win-10 was first released.
It was terrible and full of bugs and constant updates.
Lots of System crashes.
But thats all fixed now.

Its much better now.

Intel486dx33 wrote on 2025-05-07, 13:28:

But I still remember when Win-10 was first released.
It was terrible and full of bugs and conscientious updates.

Its much better now.

That's been the case of every Windows version dating at least as back as XP, with the possible exception of Windows 7, which in itself was a polished version of Vista.

dr_st wrote on 2025-05-07, 13:31:

That's been the case of every Windows version dating at least as back as XP, with the possible exception of Windows 7, which in itself was a polished version of Vista.

That's been the case of almost all software, probably dating as back as ENIAC - it's very rare for a new major release to be successful.

Earlier versions of Windows 9x seem to be betas of 98SE.
NT 4.0 doesn't make sense without Service Packs.
MS-DOS 6.0 should be avoided like fire, 6.20 is the usable version.
In DOS 3.x series, the API only got complete in 3.30.

Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera...

Yeah, the looming EOS date for Win10 finally got me to start dual booting into Linux. So far so good. I still need Windows for work, but Linux does everything I need it to do, and Bottles/Proton has filled in all the gaps where a piece of windows software is my only option. It's actually way easier than I thought it would be.

Even popular Linux distros still have a lot of friction which won't make the dreaded "year of Linux" a reality for now. Especially when it comes to easiness of software installation. But hopefully it will be ironed out before 2032, because there are big companies which have vested interest in that now.

Bazzite is a great gaming Linux distro. I'm going to be dual booting it with Windows 11 soon.

“Year of Linux” will never become a reality in the way that everyone hopes for because the average person is always going to use whatever slop the manufacturer preinstalls. You will only have an above average OS if you are an above average computer user. Sorry, that’s just the way it is.

The Serpent Rider wrote on 2025-05-07, 17:50:

Even popular Linux distros still have a lot of friction which won't make the dreaded "year of Linux" a reality for now. Especially when it comes to easiness of software installation. But hopefully it will be ironed out before 2032, because there are big companies which have vested interest in that now.

Well, on the one hand I'm pretty technically adept. So of course I might think Linux these days isn't that bad. I still picked a newbie distro (Linux Mint) and it did most things I wanted out of the box. Got Steam and Heroic installed for games, Bottles installed for everything else. Brave had a native linux version. Generally everything "just worked", and had UI's to boot. Only thing that got a little weird was installing drivers for my Brother printer/scanner, but it works. Mostly.

My wife keeps complaining that her laptop which she only ever browses the web on is "getting slow". It is an old laptop, but it's 100% Microsoft cruft slowing it down. I replaced the HDD with an SSD and doubled the ram, and it's better, but still not keeping up with Windows cruft. At some point I'm going to try to talk her into Linux Mint, and then I guess we'll see how easy it really is. I think for someone who uses her computer entirely to web browse, the difference will be unnoticeable.

chrismeyer6 wrote on 2025-05-07, 18:16:

Bazzite is a great gaming Linux distro. I'm going to be dual booting it with Windows 11 soon.

Wouldn't it be better for gaming to choose a plain Debian and install the stuffs you need, lesser bloat overall? I am thinking of choosing that route

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-05-07, 18:47:

chrismeyer6 wrote on 2025-05-07, 18:16:

Bazzite is a great gaming Linux distro. I'm going to be dual booting it with Windows 11 soon.

Wouldn't it be better for gaming to choose a plain Debian and install the stuffs you need, lesser bloat overall? I am thinking of choosing that route

Bazzite is pretty lightweight as it is. It really only has Steam, Proton, and Lutrus installed by default. You can add lots more to it but you need to install it

chrismeyer6 wrote on 2025-05-07, 18:49:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-05-07, 18:47:

chrismeyer6 wrote on 2025-05-07, 18:16:

Bazzite is a great gaming Linux distro. I'm going to be dual booting it with Windows 11 soon.

Wouldn't it be better for gaming to choose a plain Debian and install the stuffs you need, lesser bloat overall? I am thinking of choosing that route

Bazzite is pretty lightweight as it is. It really only has Steam, Proton, and Lutrus installed by default. You can add lots more to it but you need to install it

So I am guessing it just makes your gaming settings a little bit less frustrating but everything else remains more or same similar to other distros.

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-05-07, 18:47:

Wouldn't it be better for gaming to choose a plain Debian and install the stuffs you need, lesser bloat overall? I am thinking of choosing that route

From personal experience, Debian isn't so great with proprietary Nvidia drivers. Sure, you can install them, and they work fine... until an update breaks something. About a year ago or so, Debian's 12.5 update broke proprietary Nvidia drivers and left it unfixed for quite a while. I would suggest using Linux Mint instead, or MX Linux if you want something Debian-based that's a bit more user friendly.

And as others have said, Win10 LTSC IoT will be supported until 2032, so there's always that as a fallback option.

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-05-07, 18:53:

chrismeyer6 wrote on 2025-05-07, 18:49:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-05-07, 18:47:

Wouldn't it be better for gaming to choose a plain Debian and install the stuffs you need, lesser bloat overall? I am thinking of choosing that route

Bazzite is pretty lightweight as it is. It really only has Steam, Proton, and Lutrus installed by default. You can add lots more to it but you need to install it

So I am guessing it just makes your gaming settings a little bit less frustrating but everything else remains more or same similar to other distros.

Pretty much. I'm going to get it setup as a dual boot for my system soon. And I'm building a system for my kids that will just have Bazzite for them. Just want it to play their games and the browser for school work. And it's free so no need to pay for a windows license