also tasmania games work only in 320x200
even destruction derby (virge) works only in 320x200

sharangad wrote on 2025-05-17, 06:29:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-05-17, 06:25:

sharangad wrote on 2025-05-17, 06:19:

This might just be a driver bug, maybe.

I installed an older driver. From Jan. Still crashes

I think this is a Windows update booboo. Maybe someone with an amd card or Intel HD graphics could try it out.

The last time I saw Win update have a substantial change, it didn't return back 😃

yep, this game reviewed on the inner side of the cover only in 320x200 in dosbox 😀
https://archive.org/details/secretservicemaga … ge/n65/mode/2up
magic carpet on the next page (outer side of the cover) luckyly has 640x480 support without 3d cards 😀

robertmo3 wrote on 2025-05-17, 06:41:

yep, this game works only in 320x200 in dosbox 😀
https://archive.org/details/secretservicemaga … ge/n65/mode/2up

I think the DOS topic can be done in another thread since it looks a longer topic 😉

nah, its just finished 😀
it doesn't work thats all 😀

robertmo3 wrote on 2025-05-17, 06:41:

yep, this game reviewed on the inner side of the cover only in 320x200 in dosbox 😀
https://archive.org/details/secretservicemaga … ge/n65/mode/2up
magic carpet on the next page (outer side of the cover) luckyly has 640x480 support without 3d cards 😀

Magic carpet has a static linked cgl library. I don't know whether the cgl version looked any better.

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-05-17, 06:40:

sharangad wrote on 2025-05-17, 06:29:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-05-17, 06:25:

I installed an older driver. From Jan. Still crashes

I think this is a Windows update booboo. Maybe someone with an amd card or Intel HD graphics could try it out.

The last time I saw Win update have a substantial change, it didn't return back 😃

This is depressing.

actually if we talk about cgl games they all work in 640x480 in dosbox in either 3dfx or software
and probably all work in 4k with dosbox+dgvoodoo/duckstation/sega_emu/remasters
flight unlimited is probably the only not working in 4k game 😉

Battlerace - S3Virge/OpenGL remaster
Screamer II - 3dfx/powervr
Screamer Rally - 3dfx/powervr
Actua Soccer - 3dfx/PS/Sega
Battle Arena Toshinden - 3dfx/PS/winNV1
Fatal Racing/Whiplash - 3dfx/Rendition
NASCAR Racing - Matrox/winNV1/all tracks in NR2(3dfx/rendition)
Rebel Moon PCI - Rendition
Rebel Moon VLB - Rendition (on RMpci engine (buggy though))
Hi-Octane - PS/Sega
Magic Carpet Plus - PS/Sega/remc2 (remc1) remaster
Euro 96 - Sega
Flight Unlimited - powervr

robertmo3 wrote on 2025-05-17, 06:41:

yep, this game reviewed on the inner side of the cover only in 320x200 in dosbox 😀
https://archive.org/details/secretservicemaga … ge/n65/mode/2up
magic carpet on the next page (outer side of the cover) luckyly has 640x480 support without 3d cards 😀

oh, btw another tasmania game FX fighter is on the front cover of the same issue 😉
https://archive.org/details/secretservicemaga … 995-09/mode/2up
https://archive.org/details/secretservicemaga … ge/n27/mode/2up
all tasmania games in same issue 😀

dectruction derby and screamer were on back cover too 😉
https://archive.org/details/secretservicemaga … ge/n83/mode/2up
https://archive.org/details/secretservicemaga … ge/n79/mode/2up

robertmo3 wrote on 2025-05-17, 07:13:

actually if we talk about cgl games they all work in 640x480 in dosbox in either 3dfx or software and probably all work in 4k wi […]
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actually if we talk about cgl games they all work in 640x480 in dosbox in either 3dfx or software
and probably all work in 4k with dosbox+dgvoodoo/duckstation/sega_emu/remasters
flight unlimited is probably the only not working in 4k game 😉

Battlerace - S3Virge/OpenGL remaster
Screamer II - 3dfx/powervr
Screamer Rally - 3dfx/powervr
Actua Soccer - 3dfx/PS/Sega
Battle Arena Toshinden - 3dfx/PS/winNV1
Fatal Racing/Whiplash - 3dfx/Rendition
NASCAR Racing - Matrox/winNV1/all tracks in NR2(3dfx/rendition)
Rebel Moon PCI - Rendition
Rebel Moon VLB - Rendition (on RMpci engine (buggy though))
Hi-Octane - PS/Sega
Magic Carpet Plus - PS/Sega/remc2 (remc1) remaster
Euro 96 - Sega
Flight Unlimited - powervr

So in your assessment, which gpus critically need support at the moment?

actually all tasmania games on both covers of same issue and the reviewers never heard about that card in their lives 😉 and probably will not hear at all 😉

robertmo3 wrote on 2025-05-17, 07:13:

actually if we talk about cgl games they all work in 640x480 in dosbox in either 3dfx or software and probably all work in 4k wi […]
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actually if we talk about cgl games they all work in 640x480 in dosbox in either 3dfx or software
and probably all work in 4k with dosbox+dgvoodoo/duckstation/sega_emu/remasters
flight unlimited is probably the only not working in 4k game 😉

...
Rebel Moon VLB - Rendition (on RMpci engine (buggy though))
..

There's another version of Rebel Moon with different graphics *I think* that came out the year before. I think that doesn't run on anything other than the 3DB VLB.

for example NASCAR Racing 1 (NV1 version) is for Windows
so you maybe would have less slow cpu/not enough system memory problems like in cart racing (but of course card is still 4mb max only) for modded tracks/carsets

Battle Arena Toshinden (nv1) is also for windows (so would be faster than dosbox/console emu)

Virtua Cop (nv1) windows would probably also be faster and allow the use of a mouse for aiming

actually all nv1 games are for windows so all will be faster than sega emu/ps emu/dosbox

i have modded that version to RMpci engine and also to windows engine so it works in software fine if i remember correctly (320x200)
and in rendition (with buggy many door/elevators (moving walls) textures- rather annoying
-a least on a first level, haven't tried further play)

though i have to say the vlb version is very nice as it has only small maps levels
pci version added huge, easy to lost in maps - so depends who prefers what.

robertmo3 wrote on 2025-05-17, 08:58:

i have modded that version to RMpci engine and also to windows engine so it works in software fine if i remember correctly (320x […]
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i have modded that version to RMpci engine and also to windows engine so it works in software fine if i remember correctly (320x200)
and in rendition (with buggy many door/elevators (moving walls) textures- rather annoying
-a least on a first level, haven't tried further play)

though i have to say the vlb version is very nice as it has only small maps levels
pci version added huge, easy to lost in maps - so depends who prefers what.

Ok. I seem to remember you modded RM Rising to run on the RM1 Rendition engine.

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-05-16, 16:47:

Over my testing of games today, any of my Direct3D8 titles crashed with a DDERR_INVALIDCALL. This includes GTA Vice City, Cricket 2002, as well as Total Immersion Racing. GetDeviceCaps completely fails, returning with an Unavailable error, and so does CheckDeviceType. Subsequently CreateDevice fails

Using 572.83 and updated to 576.40

Windows 11 24H2 Build 26100.4061

I have windows 11 24h2 last version + rtx2060 and last driver. I have tried Rally trophy d3d8 game and it works natively

willow wrote on 2025-05-17, 12:04:

BEEN_Nath_58 wrote on 2025-05-16, 16:47:

Over my testing of games today, any of my Direct3D8 titles crashed with a DDERR_INVALIDCALL. This includes GTA Vice City, Cricket 2002, as well as Total Immersion Racing. GetDeviceCaps completely fails, returning with an Unavailable error, and so does CheckDeviceType. Subsequently CreateDevice fails

Using 572.83 and updated to 576.40

Windows 11 24H2 Build 26100.4061

I have windows 11 24h2 last version + rtx2060 and last driver. I have tried Rally trophy d3d8 game and it works natively

Deus Ex iw and thief deadly shadows work. They're d3d 8 (pixel shader 1.1) as well. The sdk demos from the Dx8 sdk don't work.

I have tested also Ford racing 2 d3d8 game and it works

edit: nfs hot pursuit 2 d3d8.1 works well with windows 24 h2 last update and nvidia rtx2060

I proceeded to reinstall Windows, and all D3D8 apps work now. I also got the "problematic" update, but this time it didn't cause the havoc