Kahenraz wrote on 2025-05-25, 13:34:

Civilization 2 works, but needs Intel codecs to be installed. Does that count as modification? The game is Intel video codecs that used to be included in Windows, but were removed for Windows XP and later due to Microsoft's license expiring. Civilization 3 works out of the box. I think Civilization 1 (for Windows 3.1) also works out of the box.

If the Intel codecs is something removed for Windows (as you mentioned) then no it isn't a modification.

Kahenraz wrote on 2025-05-25, 13:34:

Civilization 2 works, but needs Intel codecs to be installed. Does that count as modification? The game uses Intel video codecs that used to be included in Windows, but were removed for Windows XP and later due to Microsoft's license expiring. Civilization 3 works out of the box. I think Civilization 1 (for Windows 3.1) also works out of the box.

Were those the Intel Indeo codecs? Weren't they removed from later Windows versions due to a discovered vulnerability in those old and unmaintained codecs? Or maybe I'm confusing codecs here?

digger wrote on 2025-05-26, 10:24:

Kahenraz wrote on 2025-05-25, 13:34:

Civilization 2 works, but needs Intel codecs to be installed. Does that count as modification? The game uses Intel video codecs that used to be included in Windows, but were removed for Windows XP and later due to Microsoft's license expiring. Civilization 3 works out of the box. I think Civilization 1 (for Windows 3.1) also works out of the box.

Were those the Intel Indeo codecs? Weren't they removed from later Windows versions due to a discovered vulnerability in those old and unmaintained codecs? Or maybe I'm confusing codecs here?

If it was Indeo, it wasn't removed but rather disabled. I have a link in the first post to enable it

Allright
here is something people didn't expect

Battlezone CD install all the way to 1.4, and even certain versions i find this very administration hating because the community(even divided in 2 forums courtesy of shenanigans) kept the game alive when all of you here forgot because of a certain word, works on modern machines, and the reason of why the game has compatibility problems for years with windows itself, is no one less than Microsoft itself being a bunch of stupid asshats.
Here is the deal, microsoft shipped compatibility fixes for said games with w10, but they did more harm than help, as the fixes are tied to the filename itself.

But, if you rename the main EXE game or copy file and rename to something like bl_rel(the 0.7 demo exe name) or just keep bzone - copy.exe
The game WORKS! not only it works it also recognizes dgvoodoo2 out of box under ddraw.dll for 3d acceleration and software mode, something i will report to dege at the thread, but also all patches works on it from 1.0 release to 1.01, 1.1, 1.3 and even 1.4 with the large assets patch.

Whatever is the config microsoft is using for this game, is FUBAR, without it using the method above, it works flawlessly.

The downside is just that the cd audio doesn't work, also the aforementioned main menu scaling problems(seems to be a common in every mech 2 engine game), also the .avi files are now crunchy as sin, like dos crunchy as sin possibly due to the lack of codec support on dgvoodoo's part but nothing that can't be solved, but if the source of the game's problems are found at the compatibility manager, everything works.

if Been_NATH decides to investigate this problem, id be glad.