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Reply 3060 of 3086, by dukeofurl

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I plan on keeping it as stock as I can. It's a very cool time capsule in great condition. I managed to get it open today and it has a creative sb pro 2 and an ati Mach 32. The CD drive had the caddy inside it, which had a copy of Grolier encyclopedia, licensed by Creative for use in bundles... So chances are good this might have even been a disc that came with the sound card/CD drive kit.

I still haven't gotten the disk drives working, they are quiet dusty inside so I'll keep my fingers crossed they might start working if I blow some of the dust out. Hopefully the pc will work with a drive or CF I've configured on a different system so I can start using it right away even if the disk drives aren't working.

Looks like I've also got 16MB ram and some l2 cache. Should be a pretty nice machine when I get a storage device going.

The video card has an empty socket, I wonder what it's for?

This micronics motherboard doesn't have an on board cmos battery btw, only a connection for an external battery pack, which is good by me. I think most of their earlier ones, including for gateways had barrel batteries soldered on, so this is a relief.

Reply 3061 of 3086, by Halofiber86

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dukeofurl wrote on 2025-07-07, 00:57:

The video card has an empty socket, I wonder what it's for?

Here this is the very same card on the Ebay, but with the missing chip installed: https://www.ebay.com/itm/135486482467 - but the chip right below is missing.
Here is the one just like yours: https://www.ebay.com/itm/386485658664
Hahaha, here the guys discuss this issue in detail: ATi Mach32 VLB VGA card, quick test
Looks like you can either use the "below" chip or the "upper/missing" chip, which are RAMDAC variants. Somebody had both of them installed and had issues because of that)))

Anyways, a very cool authentic system you have there) Reminds me of the IBM300GL, that was my dream PC around 1994)) I wish I had space for these awesome desktop cases - would be fun running some DOS software like that) Do you even have a key to THE LOCK?

Reply 3062 of 3086, by dukeofurl

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It didn't come with a key, however I have a key of a similar design that I got with another gateway computer from 2 years later and I wonder if it might work... Probably won't test it though in case it works enough to lock but not unlock 😅

Reply 3063 of 3086, by devius

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Dusty McDustface

Anyway, I doubt just cleaning the dust would make the floppy drives work if they don't produce any sound whatsoever now.

Reply 3064 of 3086, by dukeofurl

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Hehe well the 5.25 drive makes some noises and lights up, but it doesn't read my boot disk, which works in other machines.

I don't think the 3.5 drive had any mechanical signs of life or access light going when I tried that out. It's all plugged in correctly though.

Reply 3065 of 3086, by DarthSun

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DarthSun wrote on 2025-07-06, 16:28:
Driver : https://mega.nz/file/E3AVEIqA#0KGRatoQ1DPwWzV … 3wayY80ArfMtRaE Config.sys : DEVICEHIGH=C:\UTIL\CDMKE410.SYS /D:LASERWA […]
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dukeofurl wrote on 2025-07-06, 02:34:

Got this beast today. It posts though the drives didn't recognize my boot disks. The case screws started stripping when I tried to loosen them to get the top off so I'll come back to it later.

I think the CD drive is an mke/Panasonic drive connected to some kind of creative sound blaster. I read these drives were sold in kits. I haven't located the software for one of these kits, if anyone has any experience with these and knows what driver I'll need to install, that'll be good to know for the future. The caddy came with it and contained a creative licensed version of Grolier encyclopedia circa 1995, which might have even come with such a multimedia kit.

Driver :
https://mega.nz/file/E3AVEIqA#0KGRatoQ1DPwWzV … 3wayY80ArfMtRaE
Config.sys :
DEVICEHIGH=C:\UTIL\CDMKE410.SYS /D:LASERWAV
Autoexec.bat :
LH C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:LASERWAV

Drive : 2x speed (300Kb/s max).

Hard level. I wrote the set, driver included, and I didn't even get a thank you or anything...
It's not worth posting any help here anyway...
I won't...

The 3 body problems cannot be solved, neither for future quantum computers, even for the remainder of the universe. The Proton 2D is circling a planet and stepping back to the quantum size in 11 dimensions.

Reply 3066 of 3086, by dukeofurl

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DarthSun wrote on 2025-07-08, 22:27:
Hard level. I wrote the set, driver included, and I didn't even get a thank you or anything... It's not worth posting any help h […]
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DarthSun wrote on 2025-07-06, 16:28:
Driver : https://mega.nz/file/E3AVEIqA#0KGRatoQ1DPwWzV … 3wayY80ArfMtRaE Config.sys : DEVICEHIGH=C:\UTIL\CDMKE410.SYS /D:LASERWA […]
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dukeofurl wrote on 2025-07-06, 02:34:

Got this beast today. It posts though the drives didn't recognize my boot disks. The case screws started stripping when I tried to loosen them to get the top off so I'll come back to it later.

I think the CD drive is an mke/Panasonic drive connected to some kind of creative sound blaster. I read these drives were sold in kits. I haven't located the software for one of these kits, if anyone has any experience with these and knows what driver I'll need to install, that'll be good to know for the future. The caddy came with it and contained a creative licensed version of Grolier encyclopedia circa 1995, which might have even come with such a multimedia kit.

Driver :
https://mega.nz/file/E3AVEIqA#0KGRatoQ1DPwWzV … 3wayY80ArfMtRaE
Config.sys :
DEVICEHIGH=C:\UTIL\CDMKE410.SYS /D:LASERWAV
Autoexec.bat :
LH C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:LASERWAV

Drive : 2x speed (300Kb/s max).

Hard level. I wrote the set, driver included, and I didn't even get a thank you or anything...
It's not worth posting any help here anyway...
I won't...

I'm sorry, I hadn't checked out this driver yet because I'm waiting for my CF adapter to come in the mail so I can hopefully install dos on the machine and then get to the point of installing the driver, but I'm quite thankful for your help and getting me pointed in the right direction!

I'm actually really curious to see if the drive still works. The Panasonic 3do FZ-1 game console uses a Panasonic drive of this vintage and the plastic gears inside have often become brittle, crack and become inoperable due to age.

Reply 3067 of 3086, by DarthSun

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dukeofurl wrote on 2025-07-09, 01:06:
DarthSun wrote on 2025-07-08, 22:27:
Hard level. I wrote the set, driver included, and I didn't even get a thank you or anything... It's not worth posting any help h […]
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DarthSun wrote on 2025-07-06, 16:28:
Driver : https://mega.nz/file/E3AVEIqA#0KGRatoQ1DPwWzV … 3wayY80ArfMtRaE Config.sys : DEVICEHIGH=C:\UTIL\CDMKE410.SYS /D:LASERWA […]
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Driver :
https://mega.nz/file/E3AVEIqA#0KGRatoQ1DPwWzV … 3wayY80ArfMtRaE
Config.sys :
DEVICEHIGH=C:\UTIL\CDMKE410.SYS /D:LASERWAV
Autoexec.bat :
LH C:\DOS\MSCDEX.EXE /D:LASERWAV

Drive : 2x speed (300Kb/s max).

Hard level. I wrote the set, driver included, and I didn't even get a thank you or anything...
It's not worth posting any help here anyway...
I won't...

I'm sorry, I hadn't checked out this driver yet because I'm waiting for my CF adapter to come in the mail so I can hopefully install dos on the machine and then get to the point of installing the driver, but I'm quite thankful for your help and getting me pointed in the right direction!

I'm actually really curious to see if the drive still works. The Panasonic 3do FZ-1 game console uses a Panasonic drive of this vintage and the plastic gears inside have often become brittle, crack and become inoperable due to age.

I hope it will work, I have 3 of them, they still work.

The 3 body problems cannot be solved, neither for future quantum computers, even for the remainder of the universe. The Proton 2D is circling a planet and stepping back to the quantum size in 11 dimensions.

Reply 3068 of 3086, by dukeofurl

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DarthSun wrote on 2025-07-09, 05:29:
dukeofurl wrote on 2025-07-09, 01:06:
DarthSun wrote on 2025-07-08, 22:27:

Hard level. I wrote the set, driver included, and I didn't even get a thank you or anything...
It's not worth posting any help here anyway...
I won't...

I'm sorry, I hadn't checked out this driver yet because I'm waiting for my CF adapter to come in the mail so I can hopefully install dos on the machine and then get to the point of installing the driver, but I'm quite thankful for your help and getting me pointed in the right direction!

I'm actually really curious to see if the drive still works. The Panasonic 3do FZ-1 game console uses a Panasonic drive of this vintage and the plastic gears inside have often become brittle, crack and become inoperable due to age.

I hope it will work, I have 3 of them, they still work.

Well, mostly good news. Everything is set up and working, including both floppy drives that I was having trouble with earlier, however the CD drive isn't set up correctly yet. The driver fails to recognize it when booting up, telling me the interface board or drive isn't ready, check power cables, etc. The drive lights up when I insert the caddy, so that's promising that its getting power. I'll try to hunt down whatever install/configuration software there might have been for the sbpro 2 and see if that makes a difference. Come to think of it, there's probably a jumper on the card itself related to the Matsushita interface, should probably check that out too.

Regarding the sbpro, it was very interesting to see that when selecting the sbpro option in various epic games like epic pinball and jazz jackrabbit, the sound quality was extremely low. I had encountered this with the sb16 before, and apparently it's known that there were bugs in epics sound code in a few of their games (community patches exist to get the sb16 working correctly and not defaulting to the lowest sound quality). Anyways, I found that I could get higher sound quality in these games by selecting the "sound blaster clone" option in lieu of the sbpro option, so that was interesting.

Reply 3069 of 3086, by DarthSun

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dukeofurl wrote on 2025-07-13, 02:40:
DarthSun wrote on 2025-07-09, 05:29:
dukeofurl wrote on 2025-07-09, 01:06:

I'm sorry, I hadn't checked out this driver yet because I'm waiting for my CF adapter to come in the mail so I can hopefully install dos on the machine and then get to the point of installing the driver, but I'm quite thankful for your help and getting me pointed in the right direction!

I'm actually really curious to see if the drive still works. The Panasonic 3do FZ-1 game console uses a Panasonic drive of this vintage and the plastic gears inside have often become brittle, crack and become inoperable due to age.

I hope it will work, I have 3 of them, they still work.

Well, mostly good news. Everything is set up and working, including both floppy drives that I was having trouble with earlier, however the CD drive isn't set up correctly yet. The driver fails to recognize it when booting up, telling me the interface board or drive isn't ready, check power cables, etc. The drive lights up when I insert the caddy, so that's promising that its getting power. I'll try to hunt down whatever install/configuration software there might have been for the sbpro 2 and see if that makes a difference. Come to think of it, there's probably a jumper on the card itself related to the Matsushita interface, should probably check that out too.

Regarding the sbpro, it was very interesting to see that when selecting the sbpro option in various epic games like epic pinball and jazz jackrabbit, the sound quality was extremely low. I had encountered this with the sb16 before, and apparently it's known that there were bugs in epics sound code in a few of their games (community patches exist to get the sb16 working correctly and not defaulting to the lowest sound quality). Anyways, I found that I could get higher sound quality in these games by selecting the "sound blaster clone" option in lieu of the sbpro option, so that was interesting.

The config looks good, and you're making progress with the settings.
Mine is now packed, and there's a different machine on the test bench. So I can't look. The settings in the driver can change, depending on whether it's plugged into the sound card or the small control card. There's also a jumper on the driver to see which one is connected. For example, if there are two, you have to jumper them and indicate to the driver, say N:2...
I only know exactly when I have the machine in front of me.

The 3 body problems cannot be solved, neither for future quantum computers, even for the remainder of the universe. The Proton 2D is circling a planet and stepping back to the quantum size in 11 dimensions.

Reply 3070 of 3086, by pete8475

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This is my main retro PC.

Specs:
Asus P4C800-E Deluxe
Intel Pentium 4 3.4
Quadro FX3000 256MB
512MB DDR400
120GB Lexar SATA SSD (in the black drive bay connected with a Startech SATA to IDE adapter)
Promise Ultra 133TX2
Soundblaster Audigy
LG DVD-RW
Panasonic DVD-ROM
Corsair VS650
Enlight case

oh and Windows ME for the OS. 😁

The only change I've made to this PC in a while was the addition of the Startech swappable SATA bay. That thing is very handy for whenever I want to mess around with overclocking or testing something. I just pop in the backup copy of this OS I have and mess around without having to worry about corrupting the current install.

Reply 3071 of 3086, by Martli

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pete8475 wrote on 2025-07-13, 03:56:

The only change I've made to this PC in a while was the addition of the Startech swappable SATA bay. That thing is very handy for whenever I want to mess around with overclocking or testing something. I just pop in the backup copy of this OS I have and mess around without having to worry about corrupting the current install.

Yes! I have one on my P4 build too. I have discs with different OSs on it, Win98’s my main OS but I have ME and 2000 on separate discs just because I can… have also done the backup OS thing to test new configs. Super handy.

Fenrir Pentium MMX 166 | Voodoo1 | YMF719 | AWE64 | SC-88ST pro | MT-32
Neptune PIII 600 | Voodoo3 | Vortex 2 | YMF719
Thor P4 3.0ghz | 4200ti | Audigy 2 | YMF 754
Jupiter i5 3470 | GTX 670 | X-Fi

Reply 3072 of 3086, by pete8475

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Martli wrote on 2025-07-13, 09:15:
pete8475 wrote on 2025-07-13, 03:56:

The only change I've made to this PC in a while was the addition of the Startech swappable SATA bay. That thing is very handy for whenever I want to mess around with overclocking or testing something. I just pop in the backup copy of this OS I have and mess around without having to worry about corrupting the current install.

Yes! I have one on my P4 build too. I have discs with different OSs on it, Win98’s my main OS but I have ME and 2000 on separate discs just because I can… have also done the backup OS thing to test new configs. Super handy.

It's definitely the best retro related purchase I've made in a while!

Reply 3073 of 3086, by dukeofurl

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DarthSun wrote on 2025-07-13, 03:18:

The config looks good, and you're making progress with the settings.
Mine is now packed, and there's a different machine on the test bench. So I can't look. The settings in the driver can change, depending on whether it's plugged into the sound card or the small control card. There's also a jumper on the driver to see which one is connected. For example, if there are two, you have to jumper them and indicate to the driver, say N:2...
I only know exactly when I have the machine in front of me.

Just circling back to mention the caddy drive in the gateway is working great. I ended up finding a different driver that was related to the sb pro, and then it started working without any trouble.

Reply 3074 of 3086, by DarthSun

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dukeofurl wrote on 2025-07-19, 02:52:
DarthSun wrote on 2025-07-13, 03:18:

The config looks good, and you're making progress with the settings.
Mine is now packed, and there's a different machine on the test bench. So I can't look. The settings in the driver can change, depending on whether it's plugged into the sound card or the small control card. There's also a jumper on the driver to see which one is connected. For example, if there are two, you have to jumper them and indicate to the driver, say N:2...
I only know exactly when I have the machine in front of me.

Just circling back to mention the caddy drive in the gateway is working great. I ended up finding a different driver that was related to the sb pro, and then it started working without any trouble.

Happy end 😀

The 3 body problems cannot be solved, neither for future quantum computers, even for the remainder of the universe. The Proton 2D is circling a planet and stepping back to the quantum size in 11 dimensions.

Reply 3075 of 3086, by MrSegfault

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MrSegfault wrote on 2025-06-04, 01:50:
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My PC build for retro PC gaming.
It was originally a pre-build that I've found on ebay due to being so clueless about where to go with building one. Ever since, I've replaced some of its components such as the case, memory, CPU, hard drive, and power supply.
And yeah, it has newer components. I thought of going for period accurate hardware but I didn't want to lose the ability to emulate sixth-gen game consoles.

Current specs are below.

Monitor: eMachines ​eView 15p ​15" CRT Mo​nitor*
Motherboard : ASRock Z77E-ITX Mini ITX
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4 GHz, LGA 1155
CPU Fan: Noctua NH-L9x65
RAM: Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB DDR3
HDD: Samsung 850 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
GPU: EVGA Superclocked GeForce GTX 950 2 GB Video Card
PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower GX2 600W ATX Power Supply
WIFI Card: 7260HMW In​tel Wirele​ss PCI-E Card (PD9726​0H)
Mouse: Microsoft ​Intellimou​se Classic
Mousepad: Allsop
Keyboard: Microsoft Internet Keyboard

Case: Unbranded Beige ATX case I've stumbled upon on ebay**
Case Fan: Be Quiet! Pure Wings 92 mm Fan

Operating systems: Windows XP 32-bit, Linux (Debian Bookworm with Trinity Desktop)

* For some reason, it makes loud screeching sounds periodically under certain refresh rates.

** Please excuse the monstrosity that's covered behind the Domo sticker. When I first got that case, I was looking at temps out of curiosity and was freaking out over the temps gradually going up and didn't know what to do about it. My mom insisted on "drilling some holes" to the front of it using some hot needle tool of some sort in order to get some air intake and ended up making some hideous holes which resulted in damage to such a beautiful case as well as deep regret.
Fortunately, I was able to cover most of it with the sticker and also the temps hit up to a certain point then start going back down.

Update on this rig.
I got rid of all the modern parts because windows 98 games (directx 7~) don't work too well with them (graphics issues, crashes) and I didn't want to resort to using dgvoodoo2 (which doesn't even support XP).
The following new components were chosen as a way for me to enjoy directx 7-8 games out of the box, and as a bonus, have room to also run Windows 98 alongside XP.

New specs:

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 2.93 GHz Dual-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: GlacialTec​h PLA08025​S12H (2gb ddr2)
Motherboard: MSI MS-759​2 G41M4
RAM: Crucial CT25664AA800 2 GB DDR2 Memory
Hard drive: Samsung 850 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
GPU: EVGA NVIDI​A GeForce ​7900 GT 25​6MB GDDR3
GPU Cooler: Zalman VF9​00-Cu VGA ​Cooler*
PSU: Thermaltake Toughpower GX2 600 Watts
Soundcard: Creative S​oundblaste​r Audigy 2​ ZS

* I went with an aftermarket GPU cooler because the graphics card produces really high temps on idle, even with the stock cooler. With the new cooler installed, temps went down by 20 degrees Celsius, which was a massive improvement.
Good cooling is absolutely needed for GeForce 6 & 7 cards because otherwise, they can quickly fail on you.

It is all clean...

Reply 3076 of 3086, by ediflorianUS

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Hello ,
I cleaned this on monday (28th), now I just need to recap it in near future.
I just recovered this from a older shipping c. I had with stuff...
Built Tower.... Asus K8U-X , AMD probably a Sempron 3100+ sk 754, a AGP GeForce4 Palit MX440 64MB ,1x 256MB DDR 400Mhz,Maxtor 80 GB SATA early edition....
And a apropiate vintage canon printer (cleaned that 2).

My 80486-S i66 Project

Reply 3077 of 3086, by Halofiber86

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ediflorianUS wrote on 2025-07-31, 11:24:

And a apropiate vintage canon printer (cleaned that 2).

Hi, if you would ever be able to update on the printing head condition, that would be much appreciated here.
As far as I remember those Canons are likely to have the printing head that dies (dries totally) if not used (unlike HP ones, where the head is part of the cartridge).

Reply 3078 of 3086, by wanzerr

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My entry into the quarter-century old computer club:

HP Kayak 6/450
Dual Pentium II 450MHz
768MB ECC SDRAM
180GB Intel 530 SSD on SATA to IDE adapter
GeForce 4 MX 4000 128MB
New old stock Sony DRX-120L DVD Burner
AntiX Linux

surfing the internet and downloading updates!

Reply 3079 of 3086, by devius

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More computer in the photos would be nice.