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Reply 57580 of 57596, by dionb

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mtest001 wrote on 2025-10-07, 11:41:

I haven't bought it yet (the price is a bit too high), but I am tempted by this very unusual case:

https://www.ricardo.ch/de/a/retro-modulares-c … use-1298795090/

What kind of mobo can fit in this?

Backplane + SBC

In the pic it's an ISA backplane, but I have a PICMG 1.0 backplane in a similar case.

Reply 57581 of 57596, by Nunoalex

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dionb wrote on 2025-10-03, 12:27:
Speaking of EISA slots - or maybe not... […]
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EZFlyer wrote on 2025-10-03, 04:41:

looks like eisa slots. that thing's a monster

Speaking of EISA slots - or maybe not...

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If it looks like an EISA slot but there's only one on the board and it's not electrically compatible, it's probably an OPTi local bus slot. I.already had the BC3486 motherboard, a nice surprisingly small 386/486.combo affair with UMC 82C481/2 chipset. But as of half an hour ago (and thanks to Locutus 😀 ) I now have matching VGA card, an apparently anonymous Tseng ET4000AX based card, helpfully labeled 'LOCAL BUS', just to make it your own fault for not reading if you fry an EISA motherboard with it.

However in the correct board you get this (and no.smoke):

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Apparently the card is called "214XA". Still no clue to the vendor unfortunately.

It was me that sold 2 of those cards to locutus... I hope he didn't charge you too much hehehe 😉

Unfortunately vogons doesn't have a commerce section because I have tons of stuff for sale

Reply 57582 of 57596, by mtest001

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Backplane + SBC

In the pic it's an ISA backplane, but I have a PICMG 1.0 backplane in a similar case.

A 386sx SBC?

/me love my P200MMX@225 Mhz + Voodoo Banshee + SB32 PnP + Sound Canvas SC-55ST = unlimited joy !

Reply 57583 of 57596, by dionb

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Nunoalex wrote on 2025-10-07, 13:34:

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It was me that sold 2 of those cards to locutus... I hope he didn't charge you too much hehehe 😉

Not at all. I was able to give him two dead boards for his Asus collection which he has been able to resurrect. Win-win 😀

Unfortunately vogons doesn't have a commerce section because I have tons of stuff for sale

Amibay is generally a good place for this sort of stuff in my experience.

mtest001 wrote on 2025-10-07, 13:55:

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A 386sx SBC?

I have So370, So478 and SoM boards, but 386SX certainly exists.

Reply 57584 of 57596, by Nexxen

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A bunch of SCSI cables +3x IDE Zip 100 + 1 SCSI 100 Zip
All working.

1x P-iii 800 Slot 1 - working
1x P-iii 1000 s.370 - working

For peanuts because it was sold as broken/unknown state.
Basically a gamble that yielded 😀

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PC#2 PIII-1Ghz - 98SE/W2K

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Reply 57585 of 57596, by Thermalwrong

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Nexxen wrote on 2025-10-07, 19:03:
A bunch of SCSI cables +3x IDE Zip 100 + 1 SCSI 100 Zip All working. […]
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A bunch of SCSI cables +3x IDE Zip 100 + 1 SCSI 100 Zip
All working.

1x P-iii 800 Slot 1 - working
1x P-iii 1000 s.370 - working

For peanuts because it was sold as broken/unknown state.
Basically a gamble that yielded 😀

Nice set of items 😀 If you get more into SCSI stuff then those SCSI cables are quite valuable, buying those as single items really adds up fast. Since I've got way more into early CD-ROMs with caddies it's something I've been using more & more, the different connector types between SCSI versions meant I've needed a few variations of cables.
I guess the 1GHz P3 was 133mhz?

Yesterday I got a Toshiba Tecra 8200 - being sold for parts. It's a top-spec Pentium III 1GHz, which is 100MHz FSB, nothing special that I could see in the specs otherwise though.
Initially when I turned it on and saw the line down the right side of the screen, I thought "oh no, the screen is bad. Gonna have to replace that".
Then when I put in a good hard drive with an OS install I found that it's actually the high-res 1400x1050 panel. It's not really working right either because when running at 1400x1050 it'll lock up really easily. I'm not sure if it's because the OS install is from another machine, bad Trident VGA drivers or an actual fault with something like the video card.

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But putting it down to 640x480 resolution stops it crashing and I noticed that it's scaling very nicely, sure there's a black border but 640x480 is being doubled vertically and horizontally to 1280x960 and that's giving perfect 1:1 scaling with no blur or uneven pixels - I need to load some games on this, looks like this damaged LCD is staying and I'm gonna put some tape over the bad line.

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The pixel doubling makes this almost a 13" 640x480 VGA display!

The YMF754 DS-XG audio is behaving now after some careful IRQ / DMA management, it gave me some real hassle with the WDM drivers. Behaved better with the VXD driver but even then had resource conflicts with the IR device until that was disabled in Device Manager. But now games have FM, PCM and wavetable all available in Windows 98 dos box, perfect.

Reply 57586 of 57596, by Nexxen

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Thermalwrong wrote on 2025-10-07, 23:56:

Nice set of items 😀 If you get more into SCSI stuff then those SCSI cables are quite valuable, buying those as single items really adds up fast. Since I've got way more into early CD-ROMs with caddies it's something I've been using more & more, the different connector types between SCSI versions meant I've needed a few variations of cables.
I guess the 1GHz P3 was 133mhz?

Luck. The cables are hard to make if you go that way; flats is easy but the others it is not.
I tried to find some guide but there's none or I couldn't find it. I'm happy as a kid with this stash.
DB25 to SCSI-2 adapters aren't easily available or they cost a lot.

P-iii is indeed 133MHz FSB, SL52R.

Thermalwrong wrote on 2025-10-07, 23:56:
Yesterday I got a Toshiba Tecra 8200 - being sold for parts. It's a top-spec Pentium III 1GHz, which is 100MHz FSB, nothing spec […]
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Yesterday I got a Toshiba Tecra 8200 - being sold for parts. It's a top-spec Pentium III 1GHz, which is 100MHz FSB, nothing special that I could see in the specs otherwise though.
Initially when I turned it on and saw the line down the right side of the screen, I thought "oh no, the screen is bad. Gonna have to replace that".
Then when I put in a good hard drive with an OS install I found that it's actually the high-res 1400x1050 panel. It's not really working right either because when running at 1400x1050 it'll lock up really easily. I'm not sure if it's because the OS install is from another machine, bad Trident VGA drivers or an actual fault with something like the video card.

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But putting it down to 640x480 resolution stops it crashing and I noticed that it's scaling very nicely, sure there's a black border but 640x480 is being doubled vertically and horizontally to 1280x960 and that's giving perfect 1:1 scaling with no blur or uneven pixels - I need to load some games on this, looks like this damaged LCD is staying and I'm gonna put some tape over the bad line.

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The pixel doubling makes this almost a 13" 640x480 VGA display!

The YMF754 DS-XG audio is behaving now after some careful IRQ / DMA management, it gave me some real hassle with the WDM drivers. Behaved better with the VXD driver but even then had resource conflicts with the IR device until that was disabled in Device Manager. But now games have FM, PCM and wavetable all available in Windows 98 dos box, perfect.

Nice machine!
I had this issue with a 2 PCs, it was bad drivers. Hope it's just that.

Audio, I have to set IRQ/DMA manually on old socket 7 motherboards. Probably bad PnP implementation (my guess).

Have fun!!

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PC#2 PIII-1Ghz - 98SE/W2K

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Reply 57587 of 57596, by PD2JK

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EPoX CU-133A board, should be compatible with the VIA Cyrix III 550 I recently got.

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Reply 57588 of 57596, by bjwil1991

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Won an IBM Portable PC 5155 and got this ATi EGA Wonder with all of the diskettes, manual, and CD with the software and manuals in case the original diskettes have gone bad.

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Reply 57589 of 57596, by PcBytes

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Got an Dell Dimension 8300. Wasn't on my bingo card, but the 9800 Pro and the 875P chipset did me in. Not to mention, another 3 GHz Northwood HT!

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Reply 57590 of 57596, by BitWrangler

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bjwil1991 wrote on 2025-10-09, 14:09:
Won an IBM Portable PC 5155 and got this ATi EGA Wonder with all of the diskettes, manual, and CD with the software and manuals […]
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Won an IBM Portable PC 5155 and got this ATi EGA Wonder with all of the diskettes, manual, and CD with the software and manuals in case the original diskettes have gone bad.

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Beut, that's the combo I'm gonna try out when I get the internal monitor fixed. Yours looks much nicer than mine which had "been around a bit" before I got hold of it and ignored it most of the last decade.

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Reply 57591 of 57596, by Kahenraz

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PcBytes wrote on 2025-10-09, 14:16:

Got an Dell Dimension 8300. Wasn't on my bingo card, but the 9800 Pro and the 875P chipset did me in. Not to mention, another 3 GHz Northwood HT!

It's also a toolless design. These were amazing machines for their time when most OEM desktops were boring and unimaginative.

Reply 57592 of 57596, by pentiumspeed

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Kahenraz wrote on 2025-10-09, 16:31:
PcBytes wrote on 2025-10-09, 14:16:

Got an Dell Dimension 8300. Wasn't on my bingo card, but the 9800 Pro and the 875P chipset did me in. Not to mention, another 3 GHz Northwood HT!

It's also a toolless design. These were amazing machines for their time when most OEM desktops were boring and unimaginative.

Had Dimension 8300, great computer. Was a shell with bad caps for free, side covers was broken off, fixed it with screws. Then replaced caps, built up with Northwood 2.8C and G400 dual head video card then used it for years then another computer as I needed more newer at old work years ago, Around 2004 or so when got it.

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Reply 57593 of 57596, by marxveix

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What Compaq Presario model is this? Its got only 3xpci and 1xamr modem (no agp) and its intel old celeron. Can it be made useful? 😀

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Reply 57594 of 57596, by Ozzuneoj

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marxveix wrote on Today, 19:57:
What Compaq Presario model is this? Its got only 3xpci and 1xamr modem (no agp) and its intel old celeron. Can it be made useful […]
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What Compaq Presario model is this? Its got only 3xpci and 1xamr modem (no agp) and its intel old celeron. Can it be made useful? 😀

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Man, that is a tough one to track down. Must be a European exclusive?

Using a reverse image search I found a couple pages with pictures of it but no model listed. After much digging, these came up:

https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/compaq … 623732-228-2761

https://www.amibay.com/threads/compaq-presari … -win98.2446205/

The specs on the second one don't match what you have, but the first may be a very similar model except with a P4 rather than a Celeron.

Problem is, the first link calls it a Presario EVO D310, which seems to be completely wrong since searching for that comes up with completely different computers which are all silver or black.

The second link calls theirs a Presario W0313 / CYMT-5FR103A-IT , but since it has a Duron and an AGP slot, the model number is probably very different from yours.

As for if you could do anything with it... it depends if the motherboard is in usable condition (bad caps, etc.), and if you have any use for a low end Intel box from that time period. I wouldn't expect to be able to play any 3D games made after 2000-2001 on it, even with a decent PCI video card. PCI bandwidth pretty much ensures that game performance will be bad no matter what GPU you put in it. It would probably be a solid system for 1997-2000 games though.

If the motherboard is no good, the caps could be replaced or the case could be used with a different motherboard.

Of course the PSU is probably not worth using either. If it is a standard size, it could be replaced. If it isn't, well.... yeah. It gets tougher. Judging from this page, it looks like it uses a standard sized ATX PSU... https://ogris.de/casehack/

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 57595 of 57596, by marxveix

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Ozzuneoj wrote on Today, 20:24:
Man, that is a tough one to track down. Must be a European exclusive? […]
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marxveix wrote on Today, 19:57:
What Compaq Presario model is this? Its got only 3xpci and 1xamr modem (no agp) and its intel old celeron. Can it be made useful […]
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What Compaq Presario model is this? Its got only 3xpci and 1xamr modem (no agp) and its intel old celeron. Can it be made useful? 😀

125476465.jpg

Man, that is a tough one to track down. Must be a European exclusive?

Using a reverse image search I found a couple pages with pictures of it but no model listed. After much digging, these came up:

https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/compaq … 623732-228-2761

https://www.amibay.com/threads/compaq-presari … -win98.2446205/

The specs on the second one don't match what you have, but the first may be a very similar model except with a P4 rather than a Celeron.

Problem is, the first link calls it a Presario EVO D310, which seems to be completely wrong since searching for that comes up with completely different computers which are all silver or black.

The second link calls theirs a Presario W0313 / CYMT-5FR103A-IT , but since it has a Duron and an AGP slot, the model number is probably very different from yours.

As for if you could do anything with it... it depends if the motherboard is in usable condition (bad caps, etc.), and if you have any use for a low end Intel box from that time period. I wouldn't expect to be able to play any 3D games made after 2000-2001 on it, even with a decent PCI video card. PCI bandwidth pretty much ensures that game performance will be bad no matter what GPU you put in it. It would probably be a solid system for 1997-2000 games though.

If the motherboard is no good, the caps could be replaced or the case could be used with a different motherboard.

Of course the PSU is probably not worth using either. If it is a standard size, it could be replaced. If it isn't, well.... yeah. It gets tougher. Judging from this page, it looks like it uses a standard sized ATX PSU... https://ogris.de/casehack/

Thank you for searching, quick google did not come up with similar cases. It was 11 euro, its probably fits regular atx psu and the system should be working, just psu is broken.

Not yet in my hand, i will make it work and if this is more rare compaq presario model, then even better.

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Reply 57596 of 57596, by TheAbandonwareGuy

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nfraser01 wrote on 2025-10-06, 10:00:

Finally got a full-fat first gen Radeon...will test later this week.

Nope, what you have thereis a Rage Theater Gen 1.5

THIS is a full clock speed, first gen ATI "R6" Radeon DDR aka the launch model.

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They are quite a rare beast indeed. I actually have one in my possession but its missing a tiny transistor that is beyond my powers to solder currently.

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