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Reply 20 of 39, by zuldan

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tehsiggi wrote on 2025-09-23, 10:51:
Yep, you just ripped of it's dual FET (Q9) :D No more switching there, that's for sure. […]
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Yep, you just ripped of it's dual FET (Q9) 😁 No more switching there, that's for sure.

While it's gone (lol) feel free to measure the resistance between MVDDQ and GND.

Here's btw. a picture of the SS pin from ISL6522 with over-current protection active:

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Yellow is the waveform of interest. I think blue was one of the Gates, either high or low-side. In this case the FET for the low side had a disconnect on it's gate. Leading to the voltage not being generated correctly.

Well that’s the end of that 🤣. The FET refused to come off the heat sink so got some pliers and slowly twisted side to side, the IC eventually came off but unfortunately one of the legs broke off. The factory glued every chip under 🥲

Reply 24 of 39, by zuldan

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tehsiggi wrote on 2025-09-24, 07:31:

Yep, looks good. Did you get a reading on resistance between MVDDQ and GND?

Yep it's 69.8 ohms

Reply 25 of 39, by ChrisK

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Don't want to interrupt you guys, but did you check that ferrite? Looks suspicious on the photo but could also just be some dirt. Also the tantalum(s) below have somewhat black marks.

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Reply 26 of 39, by tehsiggi

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ChrisK wrote on 2025-09-24, 08:00:

Don't want to interrupt you guys, but did you check that ferrite? Looks suspicious on the photo but could also just be some dirt. Also the tantalum(s) below have somewhat black marks.

That'd be the input ferrite for MVDDC or VTT, I suspect if it's a goner, we'd have a voltage missing here. (Un-)fortunately, those are there and look fine. The dirt dot looks suspicious, I agree.

zuldan wrote on 2025-09-24, 07:41:

Yep it's 69.8 ohms

That sounds good so far! Similar to my card, so no hard short at least.

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Reply 27 of 39, by zuldan

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ChrisK wrote on 2025-09-24, 08:00:

Don't want to interrupt you guys, but did you check that ferrite? Looks suspicious on the photo but could also just be some dirt. Also the tantalum(s) below have somewhat black marks.

Thanks for noticing that. I cleaned with IPA and it appears just to be dirt.

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Reply 28 of 39, by myne

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ChrisK wrote on 2025-09-24, 08:00:

Don't want to interrupt you guys, but did you check that ferrite? Looks suspicious on the photo but could also just be some dirt. Also the tantalum(s) below have somewhat black marks.

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Diode looks dusty or faulty too

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Reply 30 of 39, by myne

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Reply 31 of 39, by zuldan

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tehsiggi wrote on 2025-09-23, 10:51:
Yep, you just ripped of it's dual FET (Q9) :D No more switching there, that's for sure. […]
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Yep, you just ripped of it's dual FET (Q9) 😁 No more switching there, that's for sure.

While it's gone (lol) feel free to measure the resistance between MVDDQ and GND.

Here's btw. a picture of the SS pin from ISL6522 with over-current protection active:

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Yellow is the waveform of interest. I think blue was one of the Gates, either high or low-side. In this case the FET for the low side had a disconnect on it's gate. Leading to the voltage not being generated correctly.

FET has arrived (https://www.st.com/content/ccc/resource/techn … .CD00002691.pdf). Any hints on what orientation it goes? A shame pin 1 isn't marked on the chip. Arrg!

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Reply 32 of 39, by PcBytes

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If I'm not mistaken, the ST logo should be the "Pin1 mark" for it, and that's by also looking at the datasheet.

Oh, and it seems the Pin1 side has a slightly larger edge than the opposite one. But yeah, the ST logo should be your pin1 marker alright.

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Reply 33 of 39, by tehsiggi

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The datasheet you listed is from the STS9DNF3LL, your chip is an STS8DNF3LL. However, Pin 1 can easily be found:

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The package as one side with an angled edge, you can see it easily when looking at the package from the side.

That let's you find pin1.

If I don't misjudge your picture, pin one is where the ST logo is.

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Reply 34 of 39, by zuldan

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tehsiggi wrote on 2025-10-12, 06:19:
The datasheet you listed is from the STS9DNF3LL, your chip is an STS8DNF3LL. However, Pin 1 can easily be found: […]
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The datasheet you listed is from the STS9DNF3LL, your chip is an STS8DNF3LL. However, Pin 1 can easily be found:

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The package as one side with an angled edge, you can see it easily when looking at the package from the side.

That let's you find pin1.

If I don't misjudge your picture, pin one is where the ST logo is.

Thanks PcBytes and tehsiggi, just to double confirm, I'll install the new chip in this orientation?

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Reply 35 of 39, by shevalier

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pin 5&6 and 7&8 connected internally, but not a 6&7
Why not just check the resistance with a multimeter before installation?

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Reply 36 of 39, by tehsiggi

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Yes. Your alignment is correct.

On your picture the footprint on the PCB has a corner on the top left, indicating pin 1.
Also, if assume pin 1 to be top left, you can see that it is connected to 5 and 6, exactly as in the schematic. So on the PCB the angled corner is 100% pin 1.

The STS8DNF3LL has the pin one at the top of the angled edge in your picture. That fits well.

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The pin you marked with ground is PIN3, which is also connected to ground in the schematic.

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Looks all good to me.

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Reply 37 of 39, by zuldan

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tehsiggi wrote on 2025-10-24, 08:46:
Yes. Your alignment is correct. […]
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Yes. Your alignment is correct.

On your picture the footprint on the PCB has a corner on the top left, indicating pin 1.
Also, if assume pin 1 to be top left, you can see that it is connected to 5 and 6, exactly as in the schematic. So on the PCB the angled corner is 100% pin 1.

The STS8DNF3LL has the pin one at the top of the angled edge in your picture. That fits well.

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The pin you marked with ground is PIN3, which is also connected to ground in the schematic.

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Looks all good to me.

tehsiggi thank you so much for your help (again). You won't believe it, the FET (STS8DNF3LL) I ripped off was faulty and was the cause of the card not working. Once I installed the new FET, the memory came back online and the card immediately started working again. What luck!


R3MEMID version 1.07, (c) Copyright ATI Technologies Inc, 2003
Log file generation enabled to .\R3MEMID.LOG ...
Reference data file (RDF) loading disabled ...
[1 ] Fill : PASS
[2 ] Data line toggle (GUI) : PASS
[1 ] Fill : PASS
[2 ] Data line toggle (GUI) : PASS
[3 ] RW page (GUI) : PASS
[4 ] RW channel (GUI) : PASS
[5 ] Data mask : PASS
[6 ] Macro + Micro8x2 tiling read : PASS
[7 ] Byte swap macro+micro8x2 read : PASS
[8 ] HOST_DATA/<f,b>/M2L : PASS
[9 ] Line slopes/dir/P/solid : PASS
TEST RESULT SUMMARY:
====================
R300 (0x4e44) detected.
128M video memory.
Test suite ran 1 of 1 times.
Checking test status array ...
[1 ] Fill : PASS
[2 ] Data line toggle (GUI) : PASS
[3 ] RW page (GUI) : PASS
[4 ] RW channel (GUI) : PASS
[5 ] Data mask : PASS
[6 ] Macro + Micro8x2 tiling read : PASS
[7 ] Byte swap macro+micro8x2 read : PASS
[8 ] HOST_DATA/<f,b>/M2L : PASS
[9 ] Line slopes/dir/P/solid : PASS
No failures detected.
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Reply 38 of 39, by marxveix

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Nice to see one ATi Radeon 9700 Pro back in life. I only have his younger and cooler brothers: Radeon 9600 pro and xt (no extra power needed)

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Reply 39 of 39, by tehsiggi

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zuldan wrote on Yesterday, 09:36:

tehsiggi thank you so much for your help (again). You won't believe it, the FET (STS8DNF3LL) I ripped off was faulty and was the cause of the card not working. Once I installed the new FET, the memory came back online and the card immediately started working again. What luck!

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tehsiggi wrote on 2025-09-23, 10:51:
Here's btw. a picture of the SS pin from ISL6522 with over-current protection active: Screenshot 2025-09-23 at 12.48.38.png […]
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Here's btw. a picture of the SS pin from ISL6522 with over-current protection active:
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Yellow is the waveform of interest. I think blue was one of the Gates, either high or low-side. In this case the FET for the low side had a disconnect on it's gate. Leading to the voltage not being generated correctly.

I had a card where one FET was slightly disconnected. Leading to a very similar pattern that you did see. Not the full voltage, while the rail looked not suspicious from a resistance point of view. I looked at the SS pin of the ISL and then saw we're in current limiting, though the rail itself was not the cause.

So I'm very glad that we lifted the cooling plate to check that ISL below 😁

Happy to see that card back in action, very glad it worked out for you!

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