VOGONS


First post, by predator_085

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member

Got myself a neat asus tusl2-c mainboard with a tualtin celeron 1,3 mhz cpu. I want to turn it into an high end win98se gaming rig for years 1998 to 2001.

Which gpu would be quite powerful for win98se but still ballanced for my mobo chipset and the gpu?

The usual suspects, gf3, geforce 4, or the radeon 7,8 or 9 series or something entirely else?

and do I need to add some more ram to maximese the board? I have 256mb pc 133 ram for the time being. I think in win98se I could use up to 512 mb is that correct?

Last edited by predator_085 on 2025-12-15, 08:04. Edited 1 time in total.

Reply 1 of 7, by marxveix

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

Geforce FX 5200 (128bit) would be next good step that you have not mentioned.

Best ATi Rage3 drivers for 3DCIF / Direct3D / OpenGL / DVD : ATi RagePro drivers and software
30+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi Rage3 cards : Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files

Reply 2 of 7, by predator_085

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
marxveix wrote on Yesterday, 07:35:

Geforce FX 5200 (128bit) would be next good step that you have not mentioned.

Thanks for the information. Yes I have not considered the fx series yet. i am open to ther sugggestons though so I will geforce fx 5200 out.

Reply 3 of 7, by smax

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

I'm doing something similar with a Dell Dimension 4100, though it's a little too old to get in on Tualtin. I went with a Radeon 9600XT 128MB card, once I dealt with a dying GPU fan it seems to be working well so far. I haven't exactly put it through its paces yet though.

512 MB is the maximum for RAM in Windows 98SE without modification/patch, the general recommendation is to stick to 512 MB or less. 384-512 MB will be good.

Dell Dimension 4100
Windows 98SE
733 MHz P3 Coppermine
ATI Radeon 9600XT
Sound Blaster Audigy SB0090
Samsung 850 EVO SSD

Reply 4 of 7, by RetroPCCupboard

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

On my Tualatin I have Geforce 4 MX 460. Basically an ultimate DirectX 7 build. Though that's only good for games up to about 2000. If you want 2001 games, then that means directX 8.x support is required. Which means at least a Geforce 4200 or Radeon 8500.

Edit, sorry, geforce 3 is also directx 8.x

Reply 5 of 7, by predator_085

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
smax wrote on Yesterday, 20:40:

I'm doing something similar with a Dell Dimension 4100, though it's a little too old to get in on Tualtin. I went with a Radeon 9600XT 128MB card, once I dealt with a dying GPU fan it seems to be working well so far. I haven't exactly put it through its paces yet though.

512 MB is the maximum for RAM in Windows 98SE without modification/patch, the general recommendation is to stick to 512 MB or less. 384-512 MB will be good.

Thanks a lot for the information about the ram. The radeon card is on my short list among the top pics aus well. It should serve my plans well.

RetroPCCupboard wrote on Yesterday, 21:32:

On my Tualatin I have Geforce 4 MX 460. Basically an ultimate DirectX 7 build. Though that's only good for games up to about 2000. If you want 2001 games, then that means directX 8.x support is required. Which means at least a Geforce 4200 or Radeon 8500.

Edit, sorry, geforce 3 is also directx 8.x

thx for your reply as well. And as far as i know the gf3 already supports directx. but you have a point for sure that for the ultimate directx experience I should look towards the geforce 4 or radeon 8 or 9 series.

I need to dig deeper first befor making my final call of there are any knowm compability issues with that series of cards for win98se.

Reply 6 of 7, by shevalier

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
smax wrote on Yesterday, 20:40:

512 MB is the maximum for RAM in Windows 98SE without modification/patch, the general recommendation is to stick to 512 MB or less. 384-512 MB will be good.

TUSL is a motherboard with SPD support.
Therefore, if you insert memory stick into all 3 slots, it will honestly show 768MB (or 1.5GB).
And that's it.
The motherboard will freeze
No motherboard in the world based on the Intel 815 chipset will work with more than 512 MB of RAM.
This is a fundamental limitation of the this chipset.

Aopen MX3S, PIII-S Tualatin 1133, Radeon 9800Pro@XT BIOS, Audigy 4 SB0610
JetWay K8T8AS, Athlon DH-E6 3000+, Radeon HD2600Pro AGP, Audigy 2 Value SB0400
Gigabyte Ga-k8n51gmf, Turion64 ML-30@2.2GHz , Radeon X800GTO PL16, Diamond monster sound MX300

Reply 7 of 7, by predator_085

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
shevalier wrote on 29 minutes ago:
TUSL is a motherboard with SPD support. Therefore, if you insert memory stick into all 3 slots, it will honestly show 768MB (or […]
Show full quote
smax wrote on Yesterday, 20:40:

512 MB is the maximum for RAM in Windows 98SE without modification/patch, the general recommendation is to stick to 512 MB or less. 384-512 MB will be good.

TUSL is a motherboard with SPD support.
Therefore, if you insert memory stick into all 3 slots, it will honestly show 768MB (or 1.5GB).
And that's it.
The motherboard will freeze
No motherboard in the world based on the Intel 815 chipset will work with more than 512 MB of RAM.
This is a fundamental limitation of the this chipset.

Thanks for the info this is good to know. But can it be really called a limitation? As far as I know there are no games or at least not much would bennfit from more than 512 mb ram in a windows 98se gaming scenario?