Hoping wrote on 2025-12-19, 19:06:

Max Payne, I find it incredible. I thought that without HTnL it wouldn't be playable. I remember seeing it on a TNT2 and not being able to stand it. I played it at the time with a Geforce 2 MX.

Giants Citizen Kabuto surprises me even more.
If they really are playable to the point that they don't seem like a different game because of the graphics, it's impressive.

From those, i only played Max Payne and i cant say it was silky smooth, it wasnt, still it did run. I may have used Rage Pro Tweaker to OC Rage Pro.

International Rally Championship 1997
Look for the ATi3D logo at back covers.
It must have some ATi support there. 😀

1997.09.10 International Rally Championship [ATI CIF][DirectX]
ral.exe has ATi 3DCIF inside its exe files, its CIF or DirectX game?

https://www.mobygames.com/game/3342/internati … y-championship/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_R … ly_Championship

List of ATi 3DCIF Games and Utilites at more recent posts lately:
Re: 3D Accelerated Games List (Proprietary APIs - No 3DFX/Direct3D)
Re: 3D Accelerated Games List (Proprietary APIs - No 3DFX/Direct3D)

Someone has ircforce.exe and ral4_68.exe?

International Rally Championship

IRCDEMO.exe 4.64Mb Demo: Playable demo of International Rally Championship. Needs DirectX5.
IRCTRACK1.EXE 20K Misc: Five brand new tracks for International Rally Championship created by Michael Johnson
ral.cfg 1k Misc: An IRC config file to assist in sorting out graphics problems and producing a log file
ircforce.exe 229k Patch: Force feedback support
ral4_80.exe 227kb Patch: Version 4.80 for INTERNATIONAL RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP ONLY. Full details on the next page.

ATi Rage3 has Glide2CIF wrapper now, thank you vvbee, i am gona try it with Rage XL AGP first: Glide/CIF wrapper

Boss Rally PC 1999/Top Gear Rally N64 1997 (Glide/Direct3D)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_Rally
https://www.mobygames.com/game/8919/top-gear-rally/

Never heard of this game before, N64 users may know it well
Maybe better do lower your expectation, its 1997 N64 game
ATi Rage Pro is listed as supported cards,it is DX6 at Direct3D

dr.zeissler wrote on 2025-11-28, 12:58:

I had serveral issues with this: Xenon 2000: Project PCF (Windows)
I had to use a very old driver 2440? in order to make it work.

Have you used Vsync off with the w82440en driver and how you disable it in the driver?
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/eV600jDAliJ_3w/Win9x … ync-off.zip?w=1

Forsaken (1998)
https://www.mobygames.com/game/117/forsaken/

Extreme-G: XG2 (1998)
https://www.mobygames.com/game/3114/extreme-g-xg2/

Turok2 Seeds of Evil (1998)
https://www.mobygames.com/game/2204/turok-2-seeds-of-evil/

South Park (1998 / 1999)
https://www.mobygames.com/game/3513/south-park/

South Park Rally (1999 / 2000)
https://www.mobygames.com/game/2970/south-park-rally/

Because ATI is supported in a lot of different OS, I will make a new run with a different machine. This time instead of a PCI Rage Pro I will use a sovery250 which has onboard RageLTpro with 4MB. Planned is: OS/2 Warp4, Dos/Win3x / Amithlon (Amiga VESA) / BEOS / Rhapsody / perhaps an additional Linux.

dr.zeissler wrote on 2026-02-03, 22:02:

Because ATI is supported in a lot of different OS, I will make a new run with a different machine. This time instead of a PCI Rage Pro I will use a sovery250 which has onboard RageLTpro with 4MB. Planned is: OS/2 Warp4, Dos/Win3x / Amithlon (Amiga VESA) / BEOS / Rhapsody / perhaps an additional Linux.

I have 1 not so well shared Win 3x driver somewhere for Rage Pro and i tested it for Rage XL AGP i think, it may take some time, but i can find it and share it if you want. Mac OS would be nice, but i have zero Mac. I may get Rage2 2MB for testing, lowest at the moment i have is Rage2+ 2MB. Still Rage3 is much better cards for overall usage.

I have both on the Bench RageIIc and RageLTPro....currently I am on RageIIc. ATICIF should work...we will see.

EDIT: Too bad that RageIIc does not work correctly in Rhapsody (X86) from Apple.Either with Mach64 driver or Rage-Driver. I think the problem is that this ATI driver is for PCI only and does not work properly with AGP-IIc. Damn!

Some time have not touched ATi Rage2/3 and its driver, but when it arrives, i try it.
I just did buy ATi 3D Xpression+ 2MB PCI (Original ATi3D Rage II Mach64 GT2 card)
https://theretroweb.com/expansioncards/s/ati- … -xpression-plus
https://theretroweb.com/chips/3846

Just have to wait for the arrival to test it with my latest drivers and if it does not start like rage2+ and rage2c does, i try downgrade something.

Edit: Original Rage2 works as it should with my latest 5.38.2611 and 5.40.2611 drivers, like Rage2+ and Rage2C, Rage1 needs older Drivers! 😀

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Also i may try Toca1 out and see does it fix those colors with it or not: ToCa 1 and Ati Rage II (Cif?)

BugRiders: The Race of Kings (1997)
https://www.mobygames.com/game/27981/bugrider … e-race-of-kings

ATi Rage Pro option uses ati3dcif.dll (n-Render 2.0 ATI.dll)

ATI Rage Pro Acceleration mode - XL AGP can start the game, but it starts better with ATi Rage Pro. (5.38 / 5.40 driver)
4.11.1027 CIF driver (ati2drab / ati2drae) it starts easier i think, like it is with Turok1 at ATi Rage Pro. (4.11.1027 drivers)

Some info from readme (readme.txt added)

DirectDraw Video Card
Direct3D Video Card
3Dfx Accelerator
ATI Rage Pro Accelerator

-ATI Rage Pro native acceleration is provided by the ATI
renderer. ATI native acceleration is not provided or supported
for other ATI chipsets.

I had an issue with faulty ram on my S3 savage4 AGP, so I changed the main card in my SNI ProM6 D981 P2/333 to an AllInWonder AGP.
This card has 8MB Ram and a TV Tuner. What driver would you suggest if I want to install Win95b on that machine ?
It must support the DVD Player Software directly (should have dvd-hardware-encoder-support) Thx!

This is the card I am using:
https://vccollection-ru.translate.goog/?page_ … &_x_tr_pto=wapp

dr.zeissler wrote on 2026-02-24, 22:23:

I had an issue with faulty ram on my S3 savage4 AGP, so I changed the main card in my SNI ProM6 D981 P2/333 to an AllInWonder AG […]
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I had an issue with faulty ram on my S3 savage4 AGP, so I changed the main card in my SNI ProM6 D981 P2/333 to an AllInWonder AGP.
This card has 8MB Ram and a TV Tuner. What driver would you suggest if I want to install Win95b on that machine ?
It must support the DVD Player Software directly (should have dvd-hardware-encoder-support) Thx!

This is the card I am using:
https://vccollection-ru.translate.goog/?page_ … &_x_tr_pto=wapp

ATi Rage 5.40 / 2611 drivers are actually for AIl In Wonder Pro +other Rage3 cards and i have taken 5.40.x base driver,
so they should work well and i have taken some MMC / DVDPlayer setups from there and removed languages maybe.
5.40x2611x3D.7z driver / download/file.php?id=229058
ATi3DRageProSoftwarebundle.7z / https://hingetee.ee/library/ATi3DRageProSoftwarebundle.7z

All in Wonder Pro / MMC/DVD and more on those ATi CD-s. You can use those 5.40.0 multilanguage drivers, but Rage2 and
RageXL AGP support is not there and some files are bit older, because there are ATi 5.40.0 / 5.40.1 / 5.40.2 ati2dadd drivers.
Recommend using DVDcpl from bundle or driver+change settings if DVD does not work well+use ATiDVD for Mpeg1/Mpeg2.

These CD install folders have AIW Pro 5.40 drivers + ATiDVD Player or MMC setups or both.
5.40.0 ati2dadd @ ATI Rage International Installation CD (100 - 180-G01070-100)\Install\RPro9x
https://archive.org/details/ati-rage-internat … 180-g-01070-100
or
5.40 ati2ddad @ ATI_Rage-International_Installation_CD-101-180-G01071-101\INSTALL\RPRO9X
https://archive.org/details/ati-rage-internat … g-01071-101.iso

All In Wonder Pro Demo CD
https://archive.org/details/ati-all-in-wonder … emo-tutorial-cd

Very helpful, thx. Will try it this weekend.

dr.zeissler wrote on 2026-02-25, 06:25:

Very helpful, thx. Will try it this weekend.

Glad to help.
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Dungeon Keeper Gold 1998 ( includes ATi Rage Pro support - Direct3D at 4MB or more )

https://dungeonkeeper.fandom.com/wiki/Dungeon_Keeper_Gold

Both very similar Dirt Track Racing games and both have ATi Rage Pro also supported!
Original earlier release has patches up to 1.03, Australian version comes with ver 1.03.
Dirt Track Racing: Australia is better game out of the box and has bit faster gameplay.

Dirt Track Racing (1999)
https://www.mobygames.com/game/2707/dirt-track-racing/
https://web.archive.org/web/20050307173905/ht … /games/dtr.html

Dirt Track Racing (version 1.01) - Update patch 1.02d/1.03 are added (dtrupdate.zip)

Recommended configuration:

Intel Pentium® 233MMX or better
64 MB RAM
220 MB of free Hard Disk space
Accelerators: 3DFX® Voodoo, Voodoo II, Banshee, Voodoo III (supported by
Glide); I740; ATI Ragepro Turbo; Matrox Mystique, G100 or G200; PowerVR2;
Riva 128, TNT, TNT2; Rendition V1000, V2100 or V2200; S3 Savage3D, Virge
GX-GX2 or DX; or other AGP Direct 3D card.
DirectSound, DirectSound3D, Aureal3D and EAX compatible sound cards
DirectX compatible force feedback devices
AMD K6-2 3DNow optimization supported
Pentium III (Katmai) optimization supported

Dirt Track Racing: Australia (2000)
https://www.mobygames.com/game/3093/dirt-trac … cing-australia/
https://web.archive.org/web/20050307173905/ht … ames/dtrau.html

Dirt Track Racing - Australia (version 1.03)

Recommended configuration:

Intel Pentium II, Pentium III, Celeron or AMD Athlon, 300 MHz or higher
64 MB RAM
250 MB of free Hard Disk space
Accelerators: 3DFX® Voodoo, Voodoo II, Banshee, Voodoo III (supported by
Glide); I740; ATI Ragepro Turbo; Matrox Mystique, G100 or G200; PowerVR2;
Riva 128, TNT, TNT2; Rendition V1000, V2100 or V2200; S3 Savage3D, Virge
GX-GX2 or DX; or other AGP Direct 3D card.
DirectSound, DirectSound3D, Aureal3D and EAX compatible sound cards
DirectX compatible force feedback devices
AMD K6-2 3DNow optimization supported
Pentium III (Katmai) optimization supported

Probably all Dirt Track Racing games can starts with Rage Pro, even the last 2002 one, all these racing game engines seem similar or same, except pinball game in the video.

Evolution of Dirt Track Racing (1999-2002)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOHFMHEFgzc

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Metal Gear Solid (1999 PS / 2000 PC) - This game has hardware acceleration only with 8 bit paletted texture support?
Someone have played it with RagePro/RageXL? Also Metal Gear Solid PC game is not listed in vogonswiki.com website.
https://www.mobygames.com/game/3635/metal-gear-solid/ , Re: Metal Gear Solid PC

Look for an entry called "8 bit | RGB PAL8". If you can't find it, your graphics card/driver setup won't support 8-bit palletized textures, so Metal Gear Solid's engine fallbacks to software mode.

Minimum
Operating system (OS) Windows 95
Processor (CPU) Intel Pentium II 233 MHz
System memory (RAM) 32 MB
Storage drive (HDD/SSD) 400 MB
Video card (GPU) 4 MB of VRAM

Recommended
Operating system (OS) Windows 95
Processor (CPU) Intel Pentium II 400 MHz
System memory (RAM) 64 MB
Storage drive (HDD/SSD) 400 MB
Video card (GPU) 8 MB of VRAM

Direct3D
ATi RagePro / RageXL / Rage128 / Rage128 Pro supports 8bit paletted textures , D3D games on that list should be fine.
https://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/List_of_ … texture_support

OpenGL
For ATi Rage3 + OpenGL and paletted textures use GLDirect 3.0 (4MB and 8MB cards) or Glide2CIF (8MB cards) at Quake (GLQuake)