appiah4 wrote on 2026-02-16, 06:16:

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote on 2026-02-15, 02:45:

Why is these kinds of people are the ones that largely seem to end up with hobby stuff? I never see collectors selling to other collectors at fair prices anymore. It's always scalpers or collectors selling at scalper prices. I always price my shit just above where I know a scalper won't make any money if they buy it from me, but a collector is still getting a great deal.

Because they are people of discipline who worked their asses off at the age you are trying to engage in hobbies instead, therefore they made enough money to afford paying however much they want for whatever they want, so they can sell it at whatever they want and tell you to fuck right off if you try to bullshit them.

Don't fuck with GenX. You are the problem. You are NOT entitled to someone else's Presario. Act like you are, and they will tell you where to put it.

Ah good old Appiah4

Always on the wrong side of a battle, and quick to chime in with ignorant bullshit. In this case you've done an excellent job of reaffirming everything I've just said. Your also doing the boomer shit where you act like hard work still means success because boomers and GenX, the generation of psychos they are, don't want to accept they strip mined society with their "fuck you, got mine" attitude. The fact is the only way you get the quality of life and success their lazy asses were handed now is if your born into wealth and power.

Now that that's out of the way...

You realize he got that for free right? And that the price I was offering was more than fair. Everyone else here agrees. If I had low balled him on something genuinely rare and valuable, sure you could argue I was out of line. But I didn't. That entire setup is probably worth around $125-150, I offered 200 specifically because I didn't want to offend him (though I should have known a GenX scalper scumbag would be unreasonable).

The forum should have cast you off with JadeFalcon and his lot during the last troublemaker purge. Every interaction I have with you here is negative, and your about the only member that's true of.

EDIT: I see your post was edited twice. I admit given the sheer BS you left in place I'm more than curious what you felt was necessary to remove. My DMs are always open for hate mail just an FYI.....

Did my semi-annual cleaning of my workbench. Ended up redoing some of the shelving and extended the front end of the bench an extra 1.5 inches for more work space.

I also replaced my 20" Dell 4:3 monitor with this Dell 2407WFPb 24" that I found at a thrift store. Since I repurposed my old gaming PC as a workshop PC, having a widescreen display is nice for things like Youtube videos, etc.

I'm also impressed at the number of inputs the 24" Dell has, even component video. Should hopefully be useful for testing with other hardware.

And added a new piece of hardware, this Triplett bench power supply. After all these years I can finally do voltage injection.

sunkindly wrote on 2026-02-14, 23:19:

I'll never understand why sellers allow offers and then get insulted when you offer something and explain as to why you've offered that amount.

Yes, exactly.
When I offer a lower price, usually because I know what the value is, I always explain my reasons and state that if it's not what they want I respect the choice (not my item).
People sometimes ask way too much because they think they have a treasure. I briefly collected stamps and that world is ruthless and taught me a lot.

It's the heart of business, haggling, bargaining, convincing... I don't see anything wrong with that if you are fair and in good faith.
Considering that it's all from behind a keyboard it's pretty easy to say "no".

My 2 cents with a hole in the middle.

Shponglefan wrote on Yesterday, 19:02:

Did my semi-annual cleaning of my workbench. Ended up redoing some of the shelving and extended the front end of the bench an extra 1.5 inches for more work space.

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This is what I envy to many users here 😀
A clean and tidy workbench.

Nexxen wrote on Yesterday, 19:23:

This is what I envy to many users here 😀
A clean and tidy workbench.

It looks tidy now, but give it a week and it will be messy again. xD

Nexxen wrote on Yesterday, 19:22:

Yes, exactly. When I offer a lower price, usually because I know what the value is, I always explain my reasons and state that i […]
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sunkindly wrote on 2026-02-14, 23:19:

I'll never understand why sellers allow offers and then get insulted when you offer something and explain as to why you've offered that amount.

Yes, exactly.
When I offer a lower price, usually because I know what the value is, I always explain my reasons and state that if it's not what they want I respect the choice (not my item).
People sometimes ask way too much because they think they have a treasure. I briefly collected stamps and that world is ruthless and taught me a lot.

It's the heart of business, haggling, bargaining, convincing... I don't see anything wrong with that if you are fair and in good faith.
Considering that it's all from behind a keyboard it's pretty easy to say "no".

My 2 cents with a hole in the middle.

Alot of resellers think their time is valued in the hundreds of dollars per hour and I would rather scrap something than sell it for its fair value. You see it all the time with cars. "Give me $4000 or I'll crush it for $250".

I think there is also a secondary aspect of they think keeping a high list price can artificially inflate the price and add some type of prestige to an item. Like the item itself is somehow enhanced by a high sale price.

I literally just dropped $250 on a PowerComputing PowerTower 225 (a rare late high performance mac clone) at the local pawn shop. I have no problem paying high prices for genuinely rare stuff. What I have a problem with is scalpers ruining ALL of my hobbies by hoovering up all the hobby good (which they can do because they are lazy POS who don't work, and thus can beat you to anything listed locally) and hoarding them unless you pay their extortion prices.

Thinking it was 1989 this morning, I brought my Mac SE and 020 accelerator to work, fully intending to get the accelerator installed during my lunch break. I don't remember where I got it--it's a Radius something or other--I found it in a box of old PowerPC stuff in my basement the other day. The poor thing must have endured years of torture in that box: 'Hey! CISCasaurus! Compute Pi to 8008135 digits in 5 nanoseconds or your GAL is mine!'

PowerPCs and PowerPC accessories can be so mean.

It's not the fastest SE accelerator out there, as it hops on the existing (16-bit) memory bus & drives it at a school zone like 16 MHz. I guess you could call it more of a mehcelerator, amirite? But at least it has a math coprocessor, so there's a chance it will run iTunes and speedily rip my CDs to AAC files for maximum emailability.

I am super interested to see just where on the classic Mac spectrum this upgrade lands! Will it roar like a Mac II or whimper like a Portable? I've never experienced an 020 before, let alone a bandwidth-starved (yet FPU-endowed) one. This is new territory for me!

Alas, I only got as far as removing the back cover and yanking cables from the drives and analogue board before my lunch break was rudely interrupted and my single-day upgrade dreams dashed. I guess the adventure will have to continue tomorrow.

Sounds like it gets almost as fast as an Amiga 1200, I know it's got 2mhz of 020 horsepower over it, but the Amiga gets to use some 32bit "fast RAM" so beige toaster will eat some dust.

Reinstalled KiCAD, got back to work on a PCI video card project. Just hobbyist stuff, nothing I'd expect to sell in the thousands or anything, but unfortunate that JLCPCB makes me buy at least 5 so who knows if I'll get to buy the hardware prototypes the same year I finish them. Maybe something I could show a potential future employer down the line, though who knows if that's even relevant given the competition both from PCB design firms and AI which may or may not create something that fries the electronics on poweron but it's free to run so the suits decide to give it a shot anyway because they only ever begrudgingly pay people because not doing so grounds the business to a halt sooner than paying them does.

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2026-01-26, 16:55:

Well, another day, another bunch of old video cards to test. This time I'm working on a pile of Intel i740 cards, and I have run […]
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Well, another day, another bunch of old video cards to test. This time I'm working on a pile of Intel i740 cards, and I have run into something strange. Several cards, several different manufacturers, all of them work perfectly... except that at 1280x1024@85Hz I get these lines on the display that move around with whatever window or GUI element they are connected to (notice the placement of them next to windows):

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They all do this at this specific res\refresh rate. There are no artifacts of any kind at any other resolution or refresh rate. 1280x1024@75Hz is fine, 1024x768@85Hz is fine, 1600x1200(256color)@75Hz is fine. Oddly enough, the Intel branded card I have (like this one) seemingly didn't have the issue at 85Hz, but it's because the card would not actually switch to 85Hz. When I select that refresh rate it just goes to 75Hz.

Is this just my wonky test system? Can anyone else replicate this? I am using the PV 40 drivers from this package under Windows 98SE:
https://vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=330&menustate=0

Seems like an odd issue either way. Everything I can find online says that the i740 should do 1280x1024@85Hz, and the drivers seem to let it happen. I do not intend to use that res since I have 4:3 monitors and it is a 5:4 res (bleh!) but I wouldn't mind some validation if others can replicate this.

Also, I just want to throw out there that these cards are really underappreciated these days. Going from the SiS 6326 and Trio3D/2X to the i740 is an insanely huge improvement in gaming performance. The old Jedi Knight demo I was using for testing runs better on the i740 at 1024x768 with colored lighting on than it did on the other cards at 640x480 with colored lighting off. i740 may not have been a Voodoo 2 killer, but it is absolutely nowhere near the bottom of the 3D accelerator stack.

Played a little around trying to reproduce this phenomenon.

Using an ASUS CUSL2-C, Intel branded i740 card, Pentium 3 533EB at 4x150MHz.

I did get artifacting at 1280x1024 @ 75 Hz - can't select 85. My monitor kindly asks me to use 60Hz, so I'm sure it's not capable of 85 Hz. And the artifacting at 75 - I'm mostly suspecting that it's the monitor that doesn't play well. So with that monitor, unfortunately, I haven't been able to confirm your observation. At the moment, it's my only non-widescreen - I might look and see if any of my full HD monitors with VGA input would run 1280x1024@85 at some time, though.

Attached image shows my artifacting - and as a curiosity, I attach an image of the boot screen I first got - the lubrication of the card's fan is non-existant 🤣 But the text "Graphics Accelerator" amuses me, knowing how slow they were back then (well for 2D, they were probably fine, it's more like a 3D decellerator, IIRC)

H3nrik V! wrote on Today, 06:54:

Played a little around trying to reproduce this phenomenon. […]
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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2026-01-26, 16:55:

Well, another day, another bunch of old video cards to test. This time I'm working on a pile of Intel i740 cards, and I have run […]
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Well, another day, another bunch of old video cards to test. This time I'm working on a pile of Intel i740 cards, and I have run into something strange. Several cards, several different manufacturers, all of them work perfectly... except that at 1280x1024@85Hz I get these lines on the display that move around with whatever window or GUI element they are connected to (notice the placement of them next to windows):

The attachment 20260126_103510.jpg is no longer available

They all do this at this specific res\refresh rate. There are no artifacts of any kind at any other resolution or refresh rate. 1280x1024@75Hz is fine, 1024x768@85Hz is fine, 1600x1200(256color)@75Hz is fine. Oddly enough, the Intel branded card I have (like this one) seemingly didn't have the issue at 85Hz, but it's because the card would not actually switch to 85Hz. When I select that refresh rate it just goes to 75Hz.

Is this just my wonky test system? Can anyone else replicate this? I am using the PV 40 drivers from this package under Windows 98SE:
https://vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=330&menustate=0

Seems like an odd issue either way. Everything I can find online says that the i740 should do 1280x1024@85Hz, and the drivers seem to let it happen. I do not intend to use that res since I have 4:3 monitors and it is a 5:4 res (bleh!) but I wouldn't mind some validation if others can replicate this.

Also, I just want to throw out there that these cards are really underappreciated these days. Going from the SiS 6326 and Trio3D/2X to the i740 is an insanely huge improvement in gaming performance. The old Jedi Knight demo I was using for testing runs better on the i740 at 1024x768 with colored lighting on than it did on the other cards at 640x480 with colored lighting off. i740 may not have been a Voodoo 2 killer, but it is absolutely nowhere near the bottom of the 3D accelerator stack.

Played a little around trying to reproduce this phenomenon.

Using an ASUS CUSL2-C, Intel branded i740 card, Pentium 3 533EB at 4x150MHz.

I did get artifacting at 1280x1024 @ 75 Hz - can't select 85. My monitor kindly asks me to use 60Hz, so I'm sure it's not capable of 85 Hz. And the artifacting at 75 - I'm mostly suspecting that it's the monitor that doesn't play well. So with that monitor, unfortunately, I haven't been able to confirm your observation. At the moment, it's my only non-widescreen - I might look and see if any of my full HD monitors with VGA input would run 1280x1024@85 at some time, though.

Attached image shows my artifacting - and as a curiosity, I attach an image of the boot screen I first got - the lubrication of the card's fan is non-existant 🤣 But the text "Graphics Accelerator" amuses me, knowing how slow they were back then (well for 2D, they were probably fine, it's more like a 3D decellerator, IIRC)

Thank you for testing this out!

That looks very very similar to the artifacting my cards experience at 1280x1024 @85Hz, so I don't think that is your monitor. I'm not sure why yours would be doing it at 75Hz though when the cards I tested only did it at 85Hz.. that is odd. Admittedly, I don't remember now if I tested every single one at 1280x1024 @75Hz, so it is possible that some cards have the issue at that refresh rate too.

I'm wondering if there are different revisions of the i740 chips, or possibly different memory configurations (or speeds), and some of them have the throughput required by the RAMDAC higher refresh rates while some do not. I don't really have a very deep understanding of that kind of thing, but I think that is plausible. It also makes sense then that one of my cards (an Intel branded one) would revert to 75Hz when I tried to set it to 85Hz... the drivers made it available to select but something prevented it from being applied.

Anyway, I like these cards. After testing lots of slow 3D cards from 1996-1997 and having to run at 400x300 to get decent frame rates, the i740 is a breath of fresh air... as long as you don't ask too much of it.

TheAbandonwareGuy wrote on Yesterday, 18:16:

Always on the wrong side of a battle, and quick to chime in with ignorant bullshit. In this case you've done an excellent job of reaffirming everything I've just said. Your also doing the boomer shit where you act like hard work still means success because boomers and GenX, the generation of psychos they are, don't want to accept they strip mined society with their "fuck you, got mine" attitude. The fact is the only way you get the quality of life and success their lazy asses were handed now is if your born into wealth and power.

Cry me a river.

Still playing with my (resurrected) K7T Pro.
It came with a Duron 600, so I ordered a Athlon XP 2000+ Palomino (12.5 x 133 = 1667 MHz). I was not sure it would work, but it does.
But nothing is perfect.
With the default bios settings, the bus speed is 100 MHz and the XP 2000 is seen as a XP 1250 MHz.
The K7T Pro has the option to run with a speed up to 132 MHz, but is not stable, and don't even boot, over 115 MHz.
So I keep it at 113 MHz, which gives a speed of 1411 MHz, equivalent to a XP 1600+.
Anyway it was worth to change, the difference between a Duron 600 and a XP 1600 is clearly visible.
Now this computer fly with the Ati 8500 DV ! 😀
3DMark 99 with default settings 800x600 16 bits went from 4072/9568 CPU to 6000/2322968 CPU.
Far Cry is almost playable, if you enjoy 720x576 Low details at 20 fps 😀

Next step will be to get conductive paint, and try to play with the bridges for the multiplier.

Soft, real graphite pencil still works on an XP if you fill the pits with "typist's correction fluid" (which might not be so available these days) commonly known as whiteout or tippex. If you fill the pits with nail polish or laquer, then yeah pencil doesn't go over it as well and you need a paint. Or from the autoparts store demister, defogger, or rear windshield heater repair compound, which might be a paint or might be a 2 part conductive glue like epoxy.

Edit: Oh I remember back in the day some were saying late XP palominos were coming with some extra laquer coating over the top of the bridges, so needed that carefully scratching off with a scalpel or Xacto knife tip. Never saw one like that, maybe only some distribution channel or retailer doing it.

I have a bottle of Tippex here in Québec. but maybe it's an old one ? Is it banned in Ontario ?
Back in the days I used Superglue to fill the gap on XP1800+, then a conductive varnish I think. The goal was to turn them into Athlon MP for a dual cpu motherboard.
I didn't need a microscope yet 😀
The trick is to cover the pads with tape before the Tippex/glue. Once again easy with a cheap microscope.

But in fact I made some tests mixing graphite from a regular pen and varnish for nails. It works too, it's cheap and I don't have to wait for delivery.
I didn't know some Athlon have varnish. Thanks for the tip, I will check with a meter before applying paint/varnish.

Ozzuneoj wrote on Today, 08:59:

Thank you for testing this out! […]
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H3nrik V! wrote on Today, 06:54:

Played a little around trying to reproduce this phenomenon. […]
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Ozzuneoj wrote on 2026-01-26, 16:55:

Well, another day, another bunch of old video cards to test. This time I'm working on a pile of Intel i740 cards, and I have run […]
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Well, another day, another bunch of old video cards to test. This time I'm working on a pile of Intel i740 cards, and I have run into something strange. Several cards, several different manufacturers, all of them work perfectly... except that at 1280x1024@85Hz I get these lines on the display that move around with whatever window or GUI element they are connected to (notice the placement of them next to windows):

The attachment 20260126_103510.jpg is no longer available

They all do this at this specific res\refresh rate. There are no artifacts of any kind at any other resolution or refresh rate. 1280x1024@75Hz is fine, 1024x768@85Hz is fine, 1600x1200(256color)@75Hz is fine. Oddly enough, the Intel branded card I have (like this one) seemingly didn't have the issue at 85Hz, but it's because the card would not actually switch to 85Hz. When I select that refresh rate it just goes to 75Hz.

Is this just my wonky test system? Can anyone else replicate this? I am using the PV 40 drivers from this package under Windows 98SE:
https://vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=330&menustate=0

Seems like an odd issue either way. Everything I can find online says that the i740 should do 1280x1024@85Hz, and the drivers seem to let it happen. I do not intend to use that res since I have 4:3 monitors and it is a 5:4 res (bleh!) but I wouldn't mind some validation if others can replicate this.

Also, I just want to throw out there that these cards are really underappreciated these days. Going from the SiS 6326 and Trio3D/2X to the i740 is an insanely huge improvement in gaming performance. The old Jedi Knight demo I was using for testing runs better on the i740 at 1024x768 with colored lighting on than it did on the other cards at 640x480 with colored lighting off. i740 may not have been a Voodoo 2 killer, but it is absolutely nowhere near the bottom of the 3D accelerator stack.

Played a little around trying to reproduce this phenomenon.

Using an ASUS CUSL2-C, Intel branded i740 card, Pentium 3 533EB at 4x150MHz.

I did get artifacting at 1280x1024 @ 75 Hz - can't select 85. My monitor kindly asks me to use 60Hz, so I'm sure it's not capable of 85 Hz. And the artifacting at 75 - I'm mostly suspecting that it's the monitor that doesn't play well. So with that monitor, unfortunately, I haven't been able to confirm your observation. At the moment, it's my only non-widescreen - I might look and see if any of my full HD monitors with VGA input would run 1280x1024@85 at some time, though.

Attached image shows my artifacting - and as a curiosity, I attach an image of the boot screen I first got - the lubrication of the card's fan is non-existant 🤣 But the text "Graphics Accelerator" amuses me, knowing how slow they were back then (well for 2D, they were probably fine, it's more like a 3D decellerator, IIRC)

Thank you for testing this out!

That looks very very similar to the artifacting my cards experience at 1280x1024 @85Hz, so I don't think that is your monitor. I'm not sure why yours would be doing it at 75Hz though when the cards I tested only did it at 85Hz.. that is odd. Admittedly, I don't remember now if I tested every single one at 1280x1024 @75Hz, so it is possible that some cards have the issue at that refresh rate too.

I'm wondering if there are different revisions of the i740 chips, or possibly different memory configurations (or speeds), and some of them have the throughput required by the RAMDAC higher refresh rates while some do not. I don't really have a very deep understanding of that kind of thing, but I think that is plausible. It also makes sense then that one of my cards (an Intel branded one) would revert to 75Hz when I tried to set it to 85Hz... the drivers made it available to select but something prevented it from being applied.

Anyway, I like these cards. After testing lots of slow 3D cards from 1996-1997 and having to run at 400x300 to get decent frame rates, the i740 is a breath of fresh air... as long as you don't ask too much of it.

I do NOT like these cards 🤣 in general, I don't like cards with fans 😉

So I put in my Radeon 9250 passively cooled, which is my go-to for non-GeForce (or Matrox) rigs. The Radeon did 1280x1024 at 75 Hz without artifacts. So it does indeed look like an i740 thing 🤷‍♂️

appiah4 wrote on 2026-02-16, 06:16:

Because they are people of discipline who worked their asses off at the age you are trying to engage in hobbies instead, therefore they made enough money to afford paying however much they want for whatever they want, so they can sell it at whatever they want and tell you to fuck right off if you try to bullshit them.

Imagine saying this to someone who's been here longer and has posted 5 or 6 times less.

In any case, seems like the team I'm in is switching engines so that'll be fun, at least it means I can export models in gltf and it become the engime's problem to make work on the hardware and not worry about having to deal with making display lists.

H3nrik V! wrote on Today, 16:19:

Ozzuneoj wrote on Today, 08:59:

Thank you for testing this out! […]
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H3nrik V! wrote on Today, 06:54:

Played a little around trying to reproduce this phenomenon. […]
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Played a little around trying to reproduce this phenomenon.

Using an ASUS CUSL2-C, Intel branded i740 card, Pentium 3 533EB at 4x150MHz.

I did get artifacting at 1280x1024 @ 75 Hz - can't select 85. My monitor kindly asks me to use 60Hz, so I'm sure it's not capable of 85 Hz. And the artifacting at 75 - I'm mostly suspecting that it's the monitor that doesn't play well. So with that monitor, unfortunately, I haven't been able to confirm your observation. At the moment, it's my only non-widescreen - I might look and see if any of my full HD monitors with VGA input would run 1280x1024@85 at some time, though.

Attached image shows my artifacting - and as a curiosity, I attach an image of the boot screen I first got - the lubrication of the card's fan is non-existant 🤣 But the text "Graphics Accelerator" amuses me, knowing how slow they were back then (well for 2D, they were probably fine, it's more like a 3D decellerator, IIRC)

Thank you for testing this out!

That looks very very similar to the artifacting my cards experience at 1280x1024 @85Hz, so I don't think that is your monitor. I'm not sure why yours would be doing it at 75Hz though when the cards I tested only did it at 85Hz.. that is odd. Admittedly, I don't remember now if I tested every single one at 1280x1024 @75Hz, so it is possible that some cards have the issue at that refresh rate too.

I'm wondering if there are different revisions of the i740 chips, or possibly different memory configurations (or speeds), and some of them have the throughput required by the RAMDAC higher refresh rates while some do not. I don't really have a very deep understanding of that kind of thing, but I think that is plausible. It also makes sense then that one of my cards (an Intel branded one) would revert to 75Hz when I tried to set it to 85Hz... the drivers made it available to select but something prevented it from being applied.

Anyway, I like these cards. After testing lots of slow 3D cards from 1996-1997 and having to run at 400x300 to get decent frame rates, the i740 is a breath of fresh air... as long as you don't ask too much of it.

I do NOT like these cards 🤣 in general, I don't like cards with fans 😉

So I put in my Radeon 9250 passively cooled, which is my go-to for non-GeForce (or Matrox) rigs. The Radeon did 1280x1024 at 75 Hz without artifacts. So it does indeed look like an i740 thing 🤷‍♂️

Oh, for sure, that is way too early of a card to have to deal with fans. I honestly don't know why some of the Intel cards had them. None of the i740 cards I have need fans to stay cool. There are some in this post I made a while back...
Re: Feast of Intel740 chip Graphics cards

And yeah, given the choice between an i740 and anything made after it, it's at the bottom of the list. But compared to non-3dfx cards made before it, it was way way faster and had much better image quality. 🙂