VOGONS


VGA→HDMI converters

Topic actions

First post, by Winstonwolfe

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

Hi all,

I’m running into a weird compatibility issue with a late-90s system and hoping someone has found a cheap VGA→HDMI converter that actually works in Award BIOS.

Hardware:

GPU: NVIDIA Riva Vanta

Motherboard: MSI BX Master (Award BIOS)

Display: modern HDMI monitor

OS boots fine

Problem:

I bought two different USB-powered VGA→HDMI active converters.

Behavior is identical on both:

POST screen shows fine

Windows output works fine

Screen goes blank when entering Award BIOS setup

Monitor reports no signal while in BIOS

So the adapter clearly locks onto 640×480 POST, but fails on the BIOS video mode.

From what I understand, Award BIOS often switches to 720×400 text mode, which many cheap scalers don’t support properly.

Has anyone found a budget VGA→HDMI converter that reliably works with:

late-90s cards

Award BIOS text mode

I know high-end scalers exist, but I’m specifically hoping for something in the cheap Amazon/eBay tier that is proven to work.

Any confirmed working models appreciated. 👍

MSI BX Master/P3 1000 Mhz/512MB/2xVoodoo 2 12MB SLI/GeForce 4Ti 4800SE/SB64 Gold/

Reply 1 of 19, by jmarsh

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

It may be your monitor rather than the adapter. The low-res resolutions (350/400 lines and sometimes 480 lines) use a refresh rate of 70Hz which some monitors just reject.

Reply 2 of 19, by ott

User metadata
Rank Member
Rank
Member
Winstonwolfe wrote on 2026-02-19, 18:29:
Has anyone found a budget VGA→HDMI converter that reliably works with: […]
Show full quote

Has anyone found a budget VGA→HDMI converter that reliably works with:

late-90s cards

Award BIOS text mode

I know high-end scalers exist, but I’m specifically hoping for something in the cheap Amazon/eBay tier that is proven to work.

This is a big challenge now.

I recently ordered cheap VGA-HDMI adapter from AliExpress, where older reviews mentioned DOS support.
I got latest revision with new MS9288C chip, but it doesn't work on Award BIOS/DOS text mode.

The attachment MS9288C.jpg is no longer available

It's seems that older revisions had the AG02-EX chip, which really supports low resolutions, but such adapters are hard to find these days.
Re: What are the best Vga to hdmi scalers or peripherals for MS-DOS games ?

Reply 3 of 19, by SScorpio

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

I went through this a few years ago. The problem is even if someone finds one that works, you ordering from the same listing can cause you to get something with a different chip that doesn't work.

I went all in on scalers, but even the more expensive GBS-C didn't always work with all PC signals.

I don't have a Retrotink 5x or 4K, so I can't say how they are. But the original non-Pro OSSC handles everything I throw at it. Sadly like everything else prices have gone up so they are even more expensive. But how many "cheap" $20-30 adapters do you go through that don't work before you hit the total price of something that handles whatever you throw at it.

Reply 4 of 19, by jmarsh

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
SScorpio wrote on 2026-02-20, 13:37:

but even the more expensive GBS-C didn't always work with all PC signals.

I'm actually working on proper custom firmware for the GBS-8200 (i.e. runs on the onboard MTV230, not a bodged ESP add-on), supporting 15KHz modes (or anything else down to 10KHz) with separate H/V syncs can be done, let me know if there's something you need? Firmware can be flashed with an arduino nano or any other similar board with I2C.

Reply 5 of 19, by maxtherabbit

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
jmarsh wrote on 2026-02-20, 19:01:
SScorpio wrote on 2026-02-20, 13:37:

but even the more expensive GBS-C didn't always work with all PC signals.

I'm actually working on proper custom firmware for the GBS-8200 (i.e. runs on the onboard MTV230, not a bodged ESP add-on), supporting 15KHz modes (or anything else down to 10KHz) with separate H/V syncs can be done, let me know if there's something you need? Firmware can be flashed with an arduino nano or any other similar board with I2C.

Have you looked into using the native digital output pins of the Tvia?

Link to project page?

Reply 6 of 19, by SScorpio

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
jmarsh wrote on 2026-02-20, 19:01:

I'm actually working on proper custom firmware for the GBS-8200 (i.e. runs on the onboard MTV230, not a bodged ESP add-on), supporting 15KHz modes (or anything else down to 10KHz) with separate H/V syncs can be done, let me know if there's something you need? Firmware can be flashed with an arduino nano or any other similar board with I2C.

I did a dig through the pile and I did find an unused GBS-8200, I'll need to get a board to let me do the flashing. Do you have a Github or other location with your project?

Reply 7 of 19, by jmarsh

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
maxtherabbit wrote on 2026-02-20, 23:09:

Have you looked into using the native digital output pins of the Tvia?

That's a bit beyond the scope... it's a lot of pins and they're very small, so not really feasible without a board redesign. Would have been nice if whoever made those "GBS HD 9800" boards had done that and used a DVI/HDMI encoder instead of just bodging a VGA->HDMI chip in there.
I have discovered the composite sync separation on the MTV230 is garbage. So the original firmware only uses it when in RGB-HV mode, and it can't properly detect Hsync below ~24KHz. So that's why it doesn't work with 15KHz HV sync signals. But there's no problem using the TVIA to query the frequencies instead, just like how it is done when in RGBS or YPBPR mode.

There's a repo here but I've been slacking about pushing the changes because I honestly doubt anyone would currently find it usable without specific hands-on instructions. Since the chip can only be flashed via ISPC mode (unless anyone happens to know the magic pin config to make it boot into parallel programming mode?) flashing new firmware comes with a risk of bricking. I've tried to minimize it as much as possible by not erasing any used pages and not modifying any code before the first check of the "break" jumper, but things can still go wrong. It's also possible there might be GBS-8200s out there with completely different default firmware than what I've seen, which means the patches/hooks won't work.
I also want to keep it reasonably quiet at least until I get a splash screen stating the firmware is not to be sold.

Reply 8 of 19, by jmarsh

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
SScorpio wrote on 2026-02-21, 00:22:

I did a dig through the pile and I did find an unused GBS-8200, I'll need to get a board to let me do the flashing. Do you have a Github or other location with your project?

I don't have auto-input-detection working yet, but if you want to let me know what sort of RGBHV input signal you want to feed it and what VGA resolution you'd like to get out of it, I could try hardcoding something.

Reply 9 of 19, by 386DX40

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

If you can find one, the old Sewell Hammerhead active VGA to HDMI works pretty well. I use it to connect my 5x86 system to a 32" 1366x768 Samsung TV on the HDMI2 input and so far all the DOS games look fine as does the boot and Ami BIOS screens, but Windows is slightly oversized so a little of the taskbar gets cut-off. Your results may vary depending on your monitor possibly.

https://sewelldirect.com/blogs/learning-cente … dio-hdmi-to-vga

Intel D865VP - Pentium 4 2.53 - 1GB - Geforce FX5600 256MB - SoundBlaster Live - 120GB HDD - WinME
DTK PKM-3331Y - Evergreen 5x86 120 - 32MB - WD90C31A 1MB ISA - CT2770 ISA - 30GB HDD - MS-DOS 7.10

Reply 10 of 19, by maxtherabbit

User metadata
Rank l33t
Rank
l33t
386DX40 wrote on 2026-02-21, 00:59:

If you can find one, the old Sewell Hammerhead active VGA to HDMI works pretty well. I use it to connect my 5x86 system to a 32" 1366x768 Samsung TV on the HDMI2 input and so far all the DOS games look fine as does the boot and Ami BIOS screens, but Windows is slightly oversized so a little of the taskbar gets cut-off. Your results may vary depending on your monitor possibly.

https://sewelldirect.com/blogs/learning-cente … dio-hdmi-to-vga

I found that this one has little to no low pass filtering and will put a lot of noise in the output on noisy systems

Reply 11 of 19, by 386DX40

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

Interesting. On my particular system the output looks great, but I should try it with one of my ISA cards that looks crappy on my little test bench LCD monitor (jail bars & noise) and see how the Sewell handles it. The only VGA I've ever had connected to the Sewell is a WD 90C31 made by Paradise with a Sierra Hi-Color RAMDAC.

[/quote]
I found that this one has little to no low pass filtering and will put a lot of noise in the output on noisy systems
[/quote]

Intel D865VP - Pentium 4 2.53 - 1GB - Geforce FX5600 256MB - SoundBlaster Live - 120GB HDD - WinME
DTK PKM-3331Y - Evergreen 5x86 120 - 32MB - WD90C31A 1MB ISA - CT2770 ISA - 30GB HDD - MS-DOS 7.10

Reply 13 of 19, by twiz11

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie

i took out pin 13, the CEC feature on mine and that seemed to fix it since it was leaking voltage which caused the display adapter to show no signal

Reply 14 of 19, by jh80

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
SScorpio wrote on 2026-02-20, 13:37:

the original non-Pro OSSC handles everything I throw at it. Sadly like everything else prices have gone up so they are even more expensive. But how many "cheap" $20-30 adapters do you go through that don't work before you hit the total price of something that handles whatever you throw at it.

This is the answer. No need to complicate things by endlessly purchasing cheap adapters that will never fully work. I guess the only condition is that you be willing to learn how the OSSC works, since it does require extensive setting up.

As for price, if you can't quite afford the official OSSC, you can get a very good clone by Bitfunx on Aliexpress for under $100 USD. Stay away from the other, cheaper clones, though, since I've heard they can have issues.

Reply 15 of 19, by SScorpio

User metadata
Rank Oldbie
Rank
Oldbie
jh80 wrote on 2026-02-22, 04:26:

This is the answer. No need to complicate things by endlessly purchasing cheap adapters that will never fully work. I guess the only condition is that you be willing to learn how the OSSC works, since it does require extensive setting up.

As for price, if you can't quite afford the official OSSC, you can get a very good clone by Bitfunx on Aliexpress for under $100 USD. Stay away from the other, cheaper clones, though, since I've heard they can have issues.

Maybe I got lucky, but for computers outputting VGA it was just plug and play. I know there's a bunch of settings to adjust things like phase and the like for various consoles.

But for a computer, it's just using the remote to switch to the correct format. Though I can never remember if it should be RGBHV or RGBS. I just choose one and if I don't have a picture, press the other button and I always see it.

OSSC is an open source project, so they aren't really clones as they follow the official spec versus reverse engineering and using different chips to accomplish the same thing. I do recommend going for one that's advertised at 1.8. That's the latest board revision and will run the latest firmware. Firmware flashing just involves dropping a file on a microSD card and plugging it in and then power on.

Reply 16 of 19, by ElTentakel

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
ott wrote on 2026-02-20, 11:30:

It's seems that older revisions had the AG02-EX chip, which really supports low resolutions, but such adapters are hard to find these days.
Re: What are the best Vga to hdmi scalers or peripherals for MS-DOS games ?

I have that one, but the image quality is very bad. There are several diagonal stripes overlayed, which seems to be caused by EMI/EMV. I suspected the USB power source, but the issue is still there with a power bank. I would be very interested in a proper but cheap solution.

Reply 17 of 19, by jh80

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
SScorpio wrote on 2026-02-22, 14:46:

Maybe I got lucky, but for computers outputting VGA it was just plug and play. I know there's a bunch of settings to adjust things like phase and the like for various consoles.

But for a computer, it's just using the remote to switch to the correct format. Though I can never remember if it should be RGBHV or RGBS. I just choose one and if I don't have a picture, press the other button and I always see it.

OSSC is an open source project, so they aren't really clones as they follow the official spec versus reverse engineering and using different chips to accomplish the same thing. I do recommend going for one that's advertised at 1.8. That's the latest board revision and will run the latest firmware. Firmware flashing just involves dropping a file on a microSD card and plugging it in and then power on.

I've used my OSSC with many video cards and many resolutions, and it almost always requires at least adjusting the sampling phase to remove any jitter. That's easy to do, though, and you can enable a button on the remote to quickly adjust phase. However, on several cards, I've had to manually adjust the horizontal sample rate (at least, at certain resolutions). Some video cards seem to send out-of-spec horizontal frequencies at certain resolutions, and it's not always easy to guess the correct sample rate, so you have to do a quick calculation of pixel clock / horizontal frequency (as displayed on the OSSC screen) to find the correct sample rate.

For that reason, I can't easily recommend the OSSC to someone who isn't willing or able to at least learn how to adjust the settings in the menu. I've seen more than a few posts / videos from people who claimed the OSSC doesn't work right because it wasn't perfect out of the box.

The OSSC is the best cheap option for going from VGA to HDMI at great quality with no lag, though, so I really encourage everyone to put the time into learning how it works.

Regarding OSSC clones: As I recall, some of the really cheap ones available on Aliexpress do not use appropriate heatsinks on the chips and may take other such shortcuts, so they're a bit risky. All Bitfunx OSSCs are 1.8 and use good heatsinks. But I would encourage anyone who can afford it to get the official one from VideoGamePerfection to support the creator.

Reply 18 of 19, by Winstonwolfe

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie

Correct me if I’m wrong — are we talking about a single 720×400@70 Hz mode that isn’t implemented? Maybe I don’t fully understand how it works, but would it really be such a challenge that $200 hardware is required?

MSI BX Master/P3 1000 Mhz/512MB/2xVoodoo 2 12MB SLI/GeForce 4Ti 4800SE/SB64 Gold/

Reply 19 of 19, by jh80

User metadata
Rank Newbie
Rank
Newbie
Winstonwolfe wrote on 2026-02-28, 10:16:

Correct me if I’m wrong — are we talking about a single 720×400@70 Hz mode that isn’t implemented? Maybe I don’t fully understand how it works, but would it really be such a challenge that $200 hardware is required?

It's not as simple as a mode being implemented or not. The cheap converters often just pass through the signal, and modern LCD monitors either cannot handle the 70 Hz or default to 720x400 resolution (they have no way to distinguish 720x400 from 640x400).

If there were a cheap and simple solution, there wouldn't be countless threads on the issue.

I recommend reading this post and the accompanying thread:

Re: Why don't cheap VGA to HDMI adapters work below 640x480?

As darry says, those are really the best three options available.

For an OSSC, your monitor must support 70 Hz and must have an option to force 4:3 aspect ratio. Otherwise, it will not work as you want it to.

If you go the Extron route, it will convert the refresh rate to 60 Hz and add a tiny bit of lag. That's why I prefer the OSSC.

If you have a monitor that will work with it, the OSSC is a great option, and as I said previously, you can get one for less than $100 USD.