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First post, by bunghole102

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Hello,

a long time ago, I built my own Windows 98 gaming pc with a mix of parts that I didn't really put a lot of consideration into at the time and I was wondering if I could get some insight into what exactly I put into my pc and whether or not I should invest in some different hardware.

First is the motherboard, which I originally poached from a Windows XP machine but have since replaced twice with an identical model, it is a PC CHIPS FSB266 K7 motherboard, model M811. I have looked around online and everywhere I have seen has suggested that this motherboard is not great, and that it is prone to failure or inadequate performance, which may or may not be true considering I've had to have it replaced on a couple different occasions now. Despite the apparent lack of quality, it has worked for many years and supports the rest of the hardware that I have in my machine. What I want to know is if this board is truly not worth my time, and if I should consider a potentially better option for my build.

Secondly, I want to know about the hard drive, which is some kind of no-name 160 GB IDE hard drive with a model number of WL160PATA872. This drive has worked flawlessly since I built the pc, despite the fact that a portion of if is not being utilized considering Windows 98's maximum hard drive capacity support, but I was also wondering if there was a better option out there regarding it. The drive has no apparent brand, although I can remember it being a purchase from Newegg that was relatively affordable at the time (I don't know if they still carry it.) Basically, I want to know if this is also something I should consider replacing, or if I ought to keep it, where could I potentially get a replacement, as I cannot seem to find another one anywhere.

Thank you for your feedback with these questions.

Reply 1 of 9, by CharlieFoxtrot

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If everything works and you are happy, there are no reason to change anything. Roughly similar spec parts won’t change anything drastically even if new parts are better quality so all in all it would be just better to make a whole new build and plan it more carefully.

As far as the HDD goes, that is most likely relatively late IDE drive in any case and something that is more than adequate when installed on your system. I personally use SSDs and IDE adapters with systems from this era, but mainly because they are easy to get new for the sizes that are usable for these systems. Again, if that drive works just fine I wouldn’t worry changing it a bit.

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Reply 2 of 9, by Beerfloat

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If I also had a tree that grows PC CHIPS FSB266 K7 motherboards in my backyard I would not worry. But as I do not, perhaps around the time the 2nd one died I might've started considering alternatives.

Seriously though, PC Chips boards have their fans. I don't touch them but I respect the hustle. And retro guys that make such boards work.

Reply 3 of 9, by NeoG_

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Based on the stamp pattern on the HDD, the supplier appears to be Western Digital, probably a mid 2000s WD1600BB. Don't see any reason why you should replace it.

98/DOS Rig: BabyAT AladdinV, K6-2+/550, V3 2000, 128MB PC100, 20GB HDD, 128GB SD2IDE, SB Live!, SB16-SCSI, PicoGUS, WP32 McCake, iNFRA CD, ZIP100
XP Rig: Lian Li PC-10 ATX, Gigabyte X38-DQ6, Core2Duo E6850, ATi HD5870, 2GB DDR2, 2TB HDD, X-Fi XtremeGamer

Reply 4 of 9, by bunghole102

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Beerfloat wrote on 2026-03-01, 07:23:

If I also had a tree that grows PC CHIPS FSB266 K7 motherboards in my backyard I would not worry. But as I do not, perhaps around the time the 2nd one died I might've started considering alternatives.

Seriously though, PC Chips boards have their fans. I don't touch them but I respect the hustle. And retro guys that make such boards work.

To be fair, it took roughly 7 years for the board to give out on me but even then I feel as though it should have lasted longer. In case it ever were to give out on me for a 3rd time, what board would you recommend that has similar specs?

Reply 5 of 9, by Beerfloat

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bunghole102 wrote on 2026-03-01, 08:05:
Beerfloat wrote on 2026-03-01, 07:23:

If I also had a tree that grows PC CHIPS FSB266 K7 motherboards in my backyard I would not worry. But as I do not, perhaps around the time the 2nd one died I might've started considering alternatives.

Seriously though, PC Chips boards have their fans. I don't touch them but I respect the hustle. And retro guys that make such boards work.

To be fair, it took roughly 7 years for the board to give out on me but even then I feel as though it should have lasted longer. In case it ever were to give out on me for a 3rd time, what board would you recommend that has similar specs?

If you want the exact same chipset to just keep your OS install trucking easily then one of these VIA KT266A boards would work.
Aopen, Asus, Biostar, Chaintech, DFI, Epox, FIC, Gigabyte, MSI, Shuttle.. there's lots of decent to great brands out there.

Or you could take the opportunity for a minor upgrade like these successor KT333 or KT400 chipset boards.

Reply 6 of 9, by CharlieFoxtrot

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Beerfloat wrote on 2026-03-01, 08:24:
If you want the exact same chipset to just keep your OS install trucking easily then one of these VIA KT266A boards would work. […]
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bunghole102 wrote on 2026-03-01, 08:05:
Beerfloat wrote on 2026-03-01, 07:23:

If I also had a tree that grows PC CHIPS FSB266 K7 motherboards in my backyard I would not worry. But as I do not, perhaps around the time the 2nd one died I might've started considering alternatives.

Seriously though, PC Chips boards have their fans. I don't touch them but I respect the hustle. And retro guys that make such boards work.

To be fair, it took roughly 7 years for the board to give out on me but even then I feel as though it should have lasted longer. In case it ever were to give out on me for a 3rd time, what board would you recommend that has similar specs?

If you want the exact same chipset to just keep your OS install trucking easily then one of these VIA KT266A boards would work.
Aopen, Asus, Biostar, Chaintech, DFI, Epox, FIC, Gigabyte, MSI, Shuttle.. there's lots of decent to great brands out there.

Or you could take the opportunity for a minor upgrade like these successor KT333 or KT400 chipset boards.

Or nForce2, VIA KT600 etc. Still, just changing the motherboard for its own sake is IMO not worth it, unless you want to do some overclocking where you absolutely want some BIOS options to do that and what cheaper boards usually lack. It may be more of a hassle with just a new board, because many of these sA boards suffer from capacitor issues which means there is quite a bit of work and money you need to put into these and in the end the motherboard alone doesn’t offer any significant improvements to the experience.

If you want to upgrade it, it is just best to rethink the whole system through again and approach it from a new build perspective. Or that is what I would do in any case.

Of course you can do everything just for tinkering’s sake, which is of course fine, but I got the impression that OP wants to generally improve the build.

Reply 7 of 9, by fosterwj03

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FYI, you could use the full capacity of your 160GB drive with Windows 98 if you want to. The FDISK and FORMAT programs that come with Windows 98 do not impose a maximum capacity limitation outside of the FAT32 spec limit of 2TB (Windows 2000 and later do have the 32GB limitation on FAT32 partition formatting, see Dave's Garage on Youtube for the explanation, i.e. blame Dave).

The interface in Windows 98's FDISK does pose a bit of a challenge since the size dialog only has 5 digits (in MB) instead of 7. You can use percentages of total drive capacity (something like "50%") instead to get a partition size closer to what you want. If you want a single 160GB partition, just type in "100%" or answer "Y" when FDISK askes to use the maximum capacity on the Primary partition.

The version of FORMAT that comes with Windows 98 also doesn't care about FAT32 partition size as long as the partition is marked for FAT32.

A word of warning: large drives, especially on mechanical disks, take a very long time to partition and format, from a RAW disk, with Windows 98. It wouldn't surprise me if partitioning and formatting the entire capacity of a 160GB mechanical drive takes over an hour in total.

Edit: I forgot to mention that the ATA driver in the Windows 98 GUI has LBA capacity limitations for drive sizes up to 137GB. Rloew's utilities offer a program/driver to break that 137GB limitation.

Reply 8 of 9, by bunghole102

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CharlieFoxtrot wrote on 2026-03-01, 10:02:
Or nForce2, VIA KT600 etc. Still, just changing the motherboard for its own sake is IMO not worth it, unless you want to do some […]
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Beerfloat wrote on 2026-03-01, 08:24:
If you want the exact same chipset to just keep your OS install trucking easily then one of these VIA KT266A boards would work. […]
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bunghole102 wrote on 2026-03-01, 08:05:

To be fair, it took roughly 7 years for the board to give out on me but even then I feel as though it should have lasted longer. In case it ever were to give out on me for a 3rd time, what board would you recommend that has similar specs?

If you want the exact same chipset to just keep your OS install trucking easily then one of these VIA KT266A boards would work.
Aopen, Asus, Biostar, Chaintech, DFI, Epox, FIC, Gigabyte, MSI, Shuttle.. there's lots of decent to great brands out there.

Or you could take the opportunity for a minor upgrade like these successor KT333 or KT400 chipset boards.

Or nForce2, VIA KT600 etc. Still, just changing the motherboard for its own sake is IMO not worth it, unless you want to do some overclocking where you absolutely want some BIOS options to do that and what cheaper boards usually lack. It may be more of a hassle with just a new board, because many of these sA boards suffer from capacitor issues which means there is quite a bit of work and money you need to put into these and in the end the motherboard alone doesn’t offer any significant improvements to the experience.

If you want to upgrade it, it is just best to rethink the whole system through again and approach it from a new build perspective. Or that is what I would do in any case.

Of course you can do everything just for tinkering’s sake, which is of course fine, but I got the impression that OP wants to generally improve the build.

The only thing I would want to reconsider is the motherboard really, it seems like the hard drive won't be a problem, although I may want to source a second one for a completely different build.

The only really "issue" with it besides its supposed lack of quality is that it, along with the CPU and RAM isn't period accurate, but that's not really my concern. If anything I could look into some of the options that BeerFloat suggested as far as boards with compatible chipsets.

The computer performs very well all things considered in its current state, I guess the only thing that worries me is the PC chips board giving out on me in the future again.

Reply 9 of 9, by CharlieFoxtrot

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bunghole102 wrote on 2026-03-04, 07:27:

The computer performs very well all things considered in its current state, I guess the only thing that worries me is the PC chips board giving out on me in the future again.

In general, hardware that is 25 years old with unknown history, storage and hours can fail anytime. Even the quality ones. If you haven’t recapped your MB because of the failing VRM caps, you sould consider yourself lucky. I have recapped several of these so called high quality enthusiast morherboards from this era because of this very issue as the socket A era was the absolute peak of the capacitor plague. So you should be at the minimum be prepared to do this kind of work. I’ve seen failed caps with NIB electronics, so even if you manage to get a brand spanking new one, those caps may have failed just sitting in the box.

Another common failure points are the bga solder joints of the NB or even SB. These can go practically any time, the number of heat cycles mainly affect when the solder balls start cracking.

The point is that you may end up with a motherboard that has failed or can fail sooner than your cheapo PCChips. There is nothing wrong with wanting a new and more flashy motherboard, but your assumption that you will have more reliable system after that is simply wrong.