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Win98SE - Random Hangs on Shutdown

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Reply 21 of 39, by DustyShinigami

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nali wrote on 2026-04-06, 18:59:

I didn't try, but found it here:
https://www.tacktech.com/display.cfm?ttid=90

Yeah, that was one I tried. The link doesn't work, sadly. 🙁

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670

Reply 23 of 39, by DustyShinigami

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nali wrote on 2026-04-06, 23:16:

And this ?
https://dn721903.ca.archive.org/0/items/micro … /260067usa8.exe

I searched with the name "260067usa8.exe".

Ooh. That one has downloaded it. Thanks. 😀 Will give it a try now.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670

Reply 24 of 39, by DustyShinigami

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Shoot. It hadn't done it for quite a few shutdowns, but despite installing that update, it just did it again when I shut it down for the night.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670

Reply 25 of 39, by akula65

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On Nali's tacktech URL at the top of this page, there is another shutdown related patch called Windows 98 Second Edition Shutdown Supplement, Release Date: 11.01.1999. The KB article has more information about the patch. You might try that patch as well.

It's possible you have multiple issues, and the first patch did resolve one of them, but you still need the other patch(es).

Reply 26 of 39, by the3dfxdude

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In my memory, there are a number of shutdown related patches, or at least, you had to keep on applying updates to resolve all the issues in Win98 when they came down on Windows Update. There were so many fixes over the course for 95, and 98, I don't think I kept up backing them all up even though I tried. That said, I think WinME is basically the most fully patched version of 9x out of the box...

Reply 27 of 39, by scj312

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I had shutdown issues with some Nvidia drivers back in the day, might be worth trying different drivers.

Reply 28 of 39, by TheIpex

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I had an intermittent shutdown hanging issue on Windows 95 OSR2 that I solved by disabling NVRAM/ESCD updates in device manager.

I'm not sure if this option exists in 98SE or if it would even help, but I thought I'd just mention it regardless.

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Reply 29 of 39, by DustyShinigami

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akula65 wrote on 2026-04-09, 00:00:

On Nali's tacktech URL at the top of this page, there is another shutdown related patch called Windows 98 Second Edition Shutdown Supplement, Release Date: 11.01.1999. The KB article has more information about the patch. You might try that patch as well.

It's possible you have multiple issues, and the first patch did resolve one of them, but you still need the other patch(es).

Oh, nice. Thank you. Yeah, I'll give that a try and see what happens.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670

Reply 30 of 39, by DustyShinigami

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scj312 wrote on 2026-04-09, 01:35:

I had shutdown issues with some Nvidia drivers back in the day, might be worth trying different drivers.

I did wonder if it might be the graphics drivers. That's something else I can try if the second shutdown update doesn't resolve it. 😀

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670

Reply 31 of 39, by DustyShinigami

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TheIpex wrote on 2026-04-09, 01:38:

I had an intermittent shutdown hanging issue on Windows 95 OSR2 that I solved by disabling NVRAM/ESCD updates in device manager.

I'm not sure if this option exists in 98SE or if it would even help, but I thought I'd just mention it regardless.

Not sure. I don't recall seeing them. I'd have to check.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670

Reply 32 of 39, by the3dfxdude

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DustyShinigami wrote on 2026-04-09, 10:08:
scj312 wrote on 2026-04-09, 01:35:

I had shutdown issues with some Nvidia drivers back in the day, might be worth trying different drivers.

I did wonder if it might be the graphics drivers. That's something else I can try if the second shutdown update doesn't resolve it. 😀

If it is a driver or some kind of resource problem, then this is where you can start from scratch on the OS install, by going to a minimum workable hardware configuration, maybe like a plain PCI VGA card fully supported in the installer as well, and swap in the video card after the OS install proven solid, and install additional peripherals and their drivers one by one, with lots of testing along the way. That's how to identify and solve issues, but of course, even if you fail shutdown at a step, sit and think about why. It might not be a driver or card you just installed. It can be a weird bug / compatibility issue. (see the mention of SB Live) Patching the OS for the shutdown related issues is still relevant.

Reply 33 of 39, by DustyShinigami

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Yeah, sadly the second update didn’t solve it either. After playing a session of Resident Evil 2, I shutdown and it hung again.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670

Reply 34 of 39, by nali

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It's a bit magick.
I remember using W98, then this problem occurs.
Next time I reinstall, using the same hardware and sames drivers, it doesn't happen.
Then may re appear later. Maybe after installing any software, I have no idea which.
Maybe changing the drivers for the mainboard to non ACPI then reinstall them ?
Just an idea, I never tried.

Reply 35 of 39, by pete8475

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I've never been able to fix this issue, it's why I use ME on my P4.

aka pete4237.5

Reply 36 of 39, by DustyShinigami

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nali wrote on 2026-04-12, 01:33:
It's a bit magick. I remember using W98, then this problem occurs. Next time I reinstall, using the same hardware and sames driv […]
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It's a bit magick.
I remember using W98, then this problem occurs.
Next time I reinstall, using the same hardware and sames drivers, it doesn't happen.
Then may re appear later. Maybe after installing any software, I have no idea which.
Maybe changing the drivers for the mainboard to non ACPI then reinstall them ?
Just an idea, I never tried.

I'm not even sure what my mainboard has, though someone has suggested I uninstall my IDE controller drivers and reinstall them with new/different ones one-by-one for a different issue.

At any rate, I need to check what GPU drivers I installed and try some different ones.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670

Reply 37 of 39, by DustyShinigami

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pete8475 wrote on 2026-04-12, 01:58:

I've never been able to fix this issue, it's why I use ME on my P4.

It is an odd one, to be sure. But it's certainly not a deal-breaker. Not to sacrifice 98 for ME at any rate 🤣. I remember having ME years ago and was never a fan. ^^

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670

Reply 38 of 39, by the3dfxdude

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DustyShinigami wrote on 2026-04-12, 10:37:
pete8475 wrote on 2026-04-12, 01:58:

I've never been able to fix this issue, it's why I use ME on my P4.

It is an odd one, to be sure. But it's certainly not a deal-breaker. Not to sacrifice 98 for ME at any rate 🤣. I remember having ME years ago and was never a fan. ^^

Actually, that's still a good suggestion, and you don't have to abandon Win98 if that is what you ultimately want to use. If you install WinME for science, using the same exact drivers, and the problem goes away, you will have narrowed down the problem. If the problem is still there, maybe there is a need to look through the drivers and specific hardware you have, including something like I suggested previously about narrowing down the hardware/driver combo. So you narrow the problem down, just by trying WinME.

Reply 39 of 39, by DustyShinigami

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Yeah, I have my suspicions it was happening because of the graphics drivers. I’ve had some weird issues with 45.23. But since going to 31.40, it hasn’t happened. Yet.

OS: Windows 98 SE
CPU: Slot 1 Pentium III Coppermine 933MHz (SL448)
RAM: Kingston 256MB 133MHz
GPU: Nvidia 16MB Riva TNT/128MB Geforce 4 Ti 4200
Motherboard: ABit AB-BE6-II Intel 440BX
Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live Value CT4670