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First post, by JAKra85

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Hello fellow PC enthusiasts,

I got into PC hardware at the age of 10 (in 1995). I was always tinkering with it, I disassembled and assembled back my first PC many many times.
For the past 20 years I started gathering old components, at first the target was to play old games on old PC's.
I don't like emulators, it doesn't have the feel, the sound, the smell. 😀

Phase I
As I got more and more stuff to the happiness of my wife... it started to clear-up in my mind on what I really want.
I don't want a collection of CPUs or video cards sitting there doing nothing on the wall or in a display case, I want a working technological history exhibition. For now, for myself.
A systematic way to follow the eras of AMD and ATi (and later the merged AMD) building upon ASUS motherboards (starting with Socket7 motherboards) as a backbone.
Each machine is a milestone of its era. Highest CPU and highest GPU of that era.
Phase I - is almost complete. I only lack a few very hard to find components. I did not concentrate on AMD Phenom and later generation, I can find everything as they are not that old.
S7 and SS7 boards - I decided to move them to ASUS, so the boards for the K5 and K6 series is under redesign, moving to ASUS if and when I can find.
I have also did "overlaps" in designing the collection. For fun: to test, compare, benchmark the evolution between products.
AMD K5 166 & AMD K6 166.
AMD K6-2@500 & AMD K6-III+@500 & AMD K7@500.
AMD K7 Athlon 1000: Orion and Thunderbird on Slot A and Thunderbird on Socket A.
AMD K7 Athlon XP 3200+ & AMD K8 Athlon64 3200+ (Socket 754)

Phase II
The attic is filled with boxes MBs, video cards, you name it...
Decided to move every single PC into it's own separate case. Stored still in the attic, no space elsewhere.
The case I choose is Phanteks Eclipse P400 TG, even for the 286 AT board! 😀
AT boards are using: ATX to AT I/O shield + this excellent ATX to AT power adapter. (I can use the case button to turn it on/off!)
https://amigastore.eu/en/419-atx-to-at-power-adapter.html
Moving them into such a case the whole thing has a 'hardware gallery' feel.
I place AMD history into a modern, clean environment where the aesthetics of the components (e.g. the imposing size of the Slot A processor with Golden Orb cooler) can truly shine.
With this case I can also do lighting: using subtle, warm white LED strips to create a 'museum exhibit' effect.
Phase II - is in very early stages. I have 5 completed builds, out of 30+.

Phase III
Install OS, copy games and configure all of them.
Plan for later, when the first two phases are completed.

The collection:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ara32t4rV … nU/edit?tab=t.0
It's a simple txt to track the progress.
Rarity is based on my opinion, on how easy or hard it was or still is to find something.

Regards:
JAKra

Reply 1 of 14, by RetroPCCupboard

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Its a very impressive collection you have there.... People tell me that I am mad for the number of retro PCs I have. Compared to you, I have nothing. Lol.

Reply 2 of 14, by marxveix

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I also love to build AMD / ATi systems more.I have done similar with AMD Mobile CPU at Regular Desktop PC-s as much as possible it was. Range from K6 to K8.

AMD K6 Mobile Socket7
AMDK6II/III+ Mobile Socket7
AMD K7 Geode XP or Athlon XP Mobile Socket A
AMD K8 Turion 64/Sempron Mobile Socket 754

Best ATi Rage3 drivers for 3DCIF / Direct3D / OpenGL / DVD : ATi RagePro drivers and software
30+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi Rage3 cards : Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files

Reply 3 of 14, by JAKra85

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RetroPCCupboard wrote on 2026-04-11, 19:20:

Its a very impressive collection you have there.... People tell me that I am mad for the number of retro PCs I have. Compared to you, I have nothing. Lol.

Thanks! 😀
I will add pictures with whichever configuration I am tinkering with.
PC No.13 is moving into it's own case sometime next week, so that is up next.

AMD K7 Athlon 1000 (Orion - Slot A) w/Golden Orb Cooler
ATi Radeon - AGP - 64MB DDR w/Core&Memory:166/166 (PN 109-70700-01)
ASUS K7M (w/NO Sound & w/NO Super Bypass) - AMD+VIA

Reply 4 of 14, by zuldan

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JAKra85 wrote on 2026-04-11, 17:57:
Hello fellow PC enthusiasts, […]
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Hello fellow PC enthusiasts,

I got into PC hardware at the age of 10 (in 1995). I was always tinkering with it, I disassembled and assembled back my first PC many many times.
For the past 20 years I started gathering old components, at first the target was to play old games on old PC's.
I don't like emulators, it doesn't have the feel, the sound, the smell. 😀

Phase I
As I got more and more stuff to the happiness of my wife... it started to clear-up in my mind on what I really want.
I don't want a collection of CPUs or video cards sitting there doing nothing on the wall or in a display case, I want a working technological history exhibition. For now, for myself.
A systematic way to follow the eras of AMD and ATi (and later the merged AMD) building upon ASUS motherboards (starting with Socket7 motherboards) as a backbone.
Each machine is a milestone of its era. Highest CPU and highest GPU of that era.
Phase I - is almost complete. I only lack a few very hard to find components. I did not concentrate on AMD Phenom and later generation, I can find everything as they are not that old.
S7 and SS7 boards - I decided to move them to ASUS, so the boards for the K5 and K6 series is under redesign, moving to ASUS if and when I can find.
I have also did "overlaps" in designing the collection. For fun: to test, compare, benchmark the evolution between products.
AMD K5 166 & AMD K6 166.
AMD K6-2@500 & AMD K6-III+@500 & AMD K7@500.
AMD K7 Athlon 1000: Orion and Thunderbird on Slot A and Thunderbird on Socket A.
AMD K7 Athlon XP 3200+ & AMD K8 Athlon64 3200+ (Socket 754)

Phase II
The attic is filled with boxes MBs, video cards, you name it...
Decided to move every single PC into it's own separate case. Stored still in the attic, no space elsewhere.
The case I choose is Phanteks Eclipse P400 TG, even for the 286 AT board! 😀
AT boards are using: ATX to AT I/O shield + this excellent ATX to AT power adapter. (I can use the case button to turn it on/off!)
https://amigastore.eu/en/419-atx-to-at-power-adapter.html
Moving them into such a case the whole thing has a 'hardware gallery' feel.
I place AMD history into a modern, clean environment where the aesthetics of the components (e.g. the imposing size of the Slot A processor with Golden Orb cooler) can truly shine.
With this case I can also do lighting: using subtle, warm white LED strips to create a 'museum exhibit' effect.
Phase II - is in very early stages. I have 5 completed builds, out of 30+.

Phase III
Install OS, copy games and configure all of them.
Plan for later, when the first two phases are completed.

The collection:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ara32t4rV … nU/edit?tab=t.0
It's a simple txt to track the progress.
Rarity is based on my opinion, on how easy or hard it was or still is to find something.

Regards:
JAKra

Very nice list mate. How exciting! I love seeing people doing builds. Are you planning adding sound cards (other than GUS)? Any midi stuff or EAX or A3D?

Reply 5 of 14, by JAKra85

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zuldan wrote on 2026-04-16, 21:49:
JAKra85 wrote on 2026-04-11, 17:57:
Hello fellow PC enthusiasts, […]
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Hello fellow PC enthusiasts,

I got into PC hardware at the age of 10 (in 1995). I was always tinkering with it, I disassembled and assembled back my first PC many many times.
For the past 20 years I started gathering old components, at first the target was to play old games on old PC's.
I don't like emulators, it doesn't have the feel, the sound, the smell. 😀

Phase I
As I got more and more stuff to the happiness of my wife... it started to clear-up in my mind on what I really want.
I don't want a collection of CPUs or video cards sitting there doing nothing on the wall or in a display case, I want a working technological history exhibition. For now, for myself.
A systematic way to follow the eras of AMD and ATi (and later the merged AMD) building upon ASUS motherboards (starting with Socket7 motherboards) as a backbone.
Each machine is a milestone of its era. Highest CPU and highest GPU of that era.
Phase I - is almost complete. I only lack a few very hard to find components. I did not concentrate on AMD Phenom and later generation, I can find everything as they are not that old.
S7 and SS7 boards - I decided to move them to ASUS, so the boards for the K5 and K6 series is under redesign, moving to ASUS if and when I can find.
I have also did "overlaps" in designing the collection. For fun: to test, compare, benchmark the evolution between products.
AMD K5 166 & AMD K6 166.
AMD K6-2@500 & AMD K6-III+@500 & AMD K7@500.
AMD K7 Athlon 1000: Orion and Thunderbird on Slot A and Thunderbird on Socket A.
AMD K7 Athlon XP 3200+ & AMD K8 Athlon64 3200+ (Socket 754)

Phase II
The attic is filled with boxes MBs, video cards, you name it...
Decided to move every single PC into it's own separate case. Stored still in the attic, no space elsewhere.
The case I choose is Phanteks Eclipse P400 TG, even for the 286 AT board! 😀
AT boards are using: ATX to AT I/O shield + this excellent ATX to AT power adapter. (I can use the case button to turn it on/off!)
https://amigastore.eu/en/419-atx-to-at-power-adapter.html
Moving them into such a case the whole thing has a 'hardware gallery' feel.
I place AMD history into a modern, clean environment where the aesthetics of the components (e.g. the imposing size of the Slot A processor with Golden Orb cooler) can truly shine.
With this case I can also do lighting: using subtle, warm white LED strips to create a 'museum exhibit' effect.
Phase II - is in very early stages. I have 5 completed builds, out of 30+.

Phase III
Install OS, copy games and configure all of them.
Plan for later, when the first two phases are completed.

The collection:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ara32t4rV … nU/edit?tab=t.0
It's a simple txt to track the progress.
Rarity is based on my opinion, on how easy or hard it was or still is to find something.

Regards:
JAKra

Very nice list mate. How exciting! I love seeing people doing builds. Are you planning adding sound cards (other than GUS)? Any midi stuff or EAX or A3D?

Thank you! It took time to get here.
That is in my plans, yes.
I have a couple of boxes of Sound Blaster sound cards from Creative some are quite rare, I think.
First I must sort out what I have then I will match them with the configuration of that time.

Reply 6 of 14, by JAKra85

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It's bugging me that here is a big "tech gap" between AMD K6-PR166 (B Stepping) and AMD K6-2 500 and I do not know what or how to fill it.
I have AMD K6-2 300 and AMD K6-2 350, maybe the AMD K6-2 300 would be suitable.
But I don't know what MB should I add to this CPU. The K6 family is nicely built on ASUS P5A MB range.
Maybe find another ASUS P5A-B for the AMD K6-PR166 and move the (planned) ASUS P5A-VM to AMD K6-2 300?
But then I lose 3D Rage IIC integrated and dedicated "crossfire" joke. (or at least I think it's funny. 😜 )
Or should I leave it as it is and simply find another ASUS P5A for AMD K6-2 300?
Any idea is appreciated.

On the video card side I could move the ATi Rage Pro Turbo - AGP - 8MB down to the AMD K6-2 300 and find another video card from ATi that has 16MB RAM that I can add to AMD K6-2 500.
The next one in line is ATi Rage Fury Pro with 32 MB so I can cover the jump from 8BM to 32MB better.

Does this make sense? 😁

PC No.8
AMD K6-PR166 (B Stepping)
ATi 3D Rage IIC - AGP - 8MB (PN 109-52800-01)
ASUS P5A-B - ALi

PC No.9
AMD K6-2 300
ATi Rage Pro Turbo - AGP - 8MB (PN 109-49800-11)
ASUS P5A-VM - ALi (searching, in a dif. MB currently)

PC No.10
AMD K6-2 500
ATi sometihng - AGP - 16MB
ASUS P5A Rev. 1.06 - ALi (searching; w/Sound, in a dif. MB currently)

PC No.11
AMD K6-III+ 400 (running @ 500)
ATi Rage Fury Pro - AGP - 32 MB SDR (PN 109-63200-01)
ASUS P5A Rev. 1.04 - ALi (w/NO Sound)

Reply 7 of 14, by marxveix

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JAKra85 wrote on 2026-04-17, 07:50:

But then I lose 3D Rage IIC integrated and dedicated "crossfire" joke. (or at least I think it's funny. 😜 )

What you mean by it? I know that you can use multimonitor with 2xati early cards with win9x.

Best ATi Rage3 drivers for 3DCIF / Direct3D / OpenGL / DVD : ATi RagePro drivers and software
30+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi Rage3 cards : Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files

Reply 8 of 14, by JAKra85

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marxveix wrote on 2026-04-17, 09:38:
JAKra85 wrote on 2026-04-17, 07:50:

But then I lose 3D Rage IIC integrated and dedicated "crossfire" joke. (or at least I think it's funny. 😜 )

What you mean by it? I know that you can use multimonitor with 2xati early cards with win9x.

The ASUS P5A-VM board has an integrated 3D Rage IIC chip on-board.

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Adding a secondary 3D Rage IIC video card, makes this a funny (crossfire) configuration, of course only one can be used at any given time.
But still, could be worth playing with, testing it out which one is faster and so on. Is the integrated one using AGP or PCI?

Reply 9 of 14, by JAKra85

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JAKra85 wrote on 2026-04-17, 12:10:
The ASUS P5A-VM board has an integrated 3D Rage IIC chip on-board. […]
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marxveix wrote on 2026-04-17, 09:38:
JAKra85 wrote on 2026-04-17, 07:50:

But then I lose 3D Rage IIC integrated and dedicated "crossfire" joke. (or at least I think it's funny. 😜 )

What you mean by it? I know that you can use multimonitor with 2xati early cards with win9x.

The ASUS P5A-VM board has an integrated 3D Rage IIC chip on-board.

The attachment Screenshot 2026-04-17 140154.png is no longer available

Adding a secondary 3D Rage IIC video card, makes this a funny (crossfire) configuration, of course only one can be used at any given time.
But still, could be worth playing with, testing it out which one is faster and so on. Is the integrated one using AGP or PCI?

It's AGP, visible on the chip. 😀

Reply 10 of 14, by JAKra85

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AMD K7 Athlon 1000 (Orion - Slot A) w/Golden Orb Cooler
ATi Radeon - AGP - 64MB DDR w/Core&Memory:166/166 (PN 109-70700-01)
ASUS K7M (w/NO Sound & w/NO Super Bypass) - AMD+VIA

This config deserves something special, so I will move this into a white P400TG later.
In this case I got this week I moved this configuration:
AMD 486 DX2-66
ATi Mach64 - ISA - 2MB (PN 109-19301-10)
Gravis Ultrasound P&P V3.0 (AMD InterWave)
PCnet™ I (ISA) (AMD AM79C960KC)
BEK-tronic BEK-P405 (ALi chipset w/512KB cache)

This is also a special configuration: all AMD. CPU, NIC,Sound.

Reply 11 of 14, by RetroPCCupboard

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JAKra85 wrote on 2026-04-21, 15:47:
This config deserves something special, so I will move this into a white P400TG later. In this case I got this week I moved this […]
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This config deserves something special, so I will move this into a white P400TG later.
In this case I got this week I moved this configuration:
AMD 486 DX2-66
ATi Mach64 - ISA - 2MB (PN 109-19301-10)
Gravis Ultrasound P&P V3.0 (AMD InterWave)
PCnet™ I (ISA) (AMD AM79C960KC)
BEK-tronic BEK-P405 (ALi chipset w/512KB cache)

This is also a special configuration: all AMD. CPU, NIC,Sound.

Looks great. I am curious about a couple of things though:

1) I see no power going to the motherboard?
2) How do you intend to get data on/off this without any form of removable storage?

Or have I missed the point, and these are designed for show only and won't be used?

Reply 12 of 14, by JAKra85

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RetroPCCupboard wrote on 2026-04-21, 17:52:
Looks great. I am curious about a couple of things though: […]
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JAKra85 wrote on 2026-04-21, 15:47:
This config deserves something special, so I will move this into a white P400TG later. In this case I got this week I moved this […]
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This config deserves something special, so I will move this into a white P400TG later.
In this case I got this week I moved this configuration:
AMD 486 DX2-66
ATi Mach64 - ISA - 2MB (PN 109-19301-10)
Gravis Ultrasound P&P V3.0 (AMD InterWave)
PCnet™ I (ISA) (AMD AM79C960KC)
BEK-tronic BEK-P405 (ALi chipset w/512KB cache)

This is also a special configuration: all AMD. CPU, NIC,Sound.

Looks great. I am curious about a couple of things though:

1) I see no power going to the motherboard?
2) How do you intend to get data on/off this without any form of removable storage?

Or have I missed the point, and these are designed for show only and won't be used?

1)
Correct, it is still not complete I need an ATX PSU. I will use it with this great ATX-to-AT converter:

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2)
When I am at that stage I will temporarily use a DVD drive to install OS and move all data/games I need.
Later on, not sure yet. Maybe use the network drive to get something.

Reply 13 of 14, by RetroPCCupboard

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JAKra85 wrote on 2026-04-21, 18:36:

Correct, it is still not complete I need an ATX PSU. I will use it with this great ATX-to-AT converter:

Where did you get that? Looks better than the versions without PCB that are available on Ebay.

Also did you have any issue with screw locations when mounting the AT board in an ATX case?

Reply 14 of 14, by JAKra85

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RetroPCCupboard wrote on 2026-04-22, 05:18:
JAKra85 wrote on 2026-04-21, 18:36:

Correct, it is still not complete I need an ATX PSU. I will use it with this great ATX-to-AT converter:

Where did you get that? Looks better than the versions without PCB that are available on Ebay.

Also did you have any issue with screw locations when mounting the AT board in an ATX case?

Yes, it's way better...and also not cheap... 😀
https://amigastore.eu/en/419-atx-to-at-power-adapter.html
I only have one at the moment and I use that for testing and fixing other AT boards. That is why I did not install it into the case.
Plan is to buy 1 each month. I need 6 or 7 in total.

There is one factor here, the -5V of the AT rail.
I've measured -3V with this converter. I've read on forums that some sound cards in the ISA slot could have problem from this.
So far I did not experienced any issues. Will update if I do.

No issues with mounting AT boards in ATX cases.
Screw holes marked with green are at the same location as ATX boards.
Screw holes marked with red... are in the air. Since this is a small board I don't see any problem with that, the MB is quite fixed and steady.

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