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Reply 31240 of 31246, by Nexxen

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I really hope someone gets them.
US people unite and go get them PCs!!

The guy explains at the beginning the ownership passage.
They are common law, they are UK strange on law level 😀

PC#1 Pentium 233 MMX - 98SE
PC#2 PIII-1Ghz - 98SE/W2K

- "One hates the specialty unobtainium parts, the other laughs in greed listing them under a ridiculous price" - kotel studios
- Bare metal ist krieg.

Reply 31241 of 31246, by MattRocks

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Nexxen wrote on Yesterday, 12:19:
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@Living @Mattrocks

I really hope someone gets them.
US people unite and go get them PCs!!

The guy explains at the beginning the ownership passage.
They are common law, they are UK strange on law level 😀

It's not clear to me from the intro.

I know that in Detroit, decades of job losses and population decline meant fewer taxpayers and the 2008 financial crises impacted Detroit more than other cities - with family homes being literally unsellable a lot of people went bankrupt. I seem to remember Detroit houses auctioning for $5 only! The city of Detroit filed for bankruptcy in 2013. But when I search for the current status, it appears various housing organisations have been stepping in to resolve the problems and then going bankrupt in the process! They are creating abandoned houses with incomplete paper trails and the biggest legal mess imaginable.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/ … ee-property-tax

Milestones [ MOS 7501 → 68030 → x86(P5/MMX) → x86(K6-2) → x86(K7*) → PPC(G3*) → x86-64(K8) → x86-64(Xeon) → x86-64(i5) → x86-64(i7) ] * original lost

Reply 31242 of 31246, by Nexxen

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MattRocks wrote on Yesterday, 14:15:
It's not clear to me from the intro. […]
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Nexxen wrote on Yesterday, 12:19:
@Living @Mattrocks […]
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@Living @Mattrocks

I really hope someone gets them.
US people unite and go get them PCs!!

The guy explains at the beginning the ownership passage.
They are common law, they are UK strange on law level 😀

It's not clear to me from the intro.

I know that in Detroit, decades of job losses and population decline meant fewer taxpayers and the 2008 financial crises impacted Detroit more than other cities - with family homes being literally unsellable a lot of people went bankrupt. I seem to remember Detroit houses auctioning for $5 only! The city of Detroit filed for bankruptcy in 2013. But when I search for the current status, it appears various housing organisations have been stepping in to resolve the problems and then going bankrupt in the process! They are creating abandoned houses with incomplete paper trails and the biggest legal mess imaginable.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/ … ee-property-tax

They had entire neighborhoods wiped by debt.
Personally I couldn't believe it.
I know a few smaller banks let the people stay for a dollar a month instead of taking back a property that had no value then.
Today it's a case study. Detroit was a symbol even in movies, but when Robocop gets fired you know things ain't good.

PC#1 Pentium 233 MMX - 98SE
PC#2 PIII-1Ghz - 98SE/W2K

- "One hates the specialty unobtainium parts, the other laughs in greed listing them under a ridiculous price" - kotel studios
- Bare metal ist krieg.

Reply 31243 of 31246, by Ozzuneoj

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Nexxen wrote on Yesterday, 09:39:
Not really correct post but I was watching this: https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330 […]
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Not really correct post but I was watching this:
https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330

and noticed the pc behind the guy. I can't remember what it was but sure it's a piece of retrotech.

And there's more later on... 😀

The CRT on the left is a Compudyne.

The tower on the table behind the bust seems to be an NEC Ready system of some sort.

There is a portable computer on top of the printer\plotter(?) next to the NEC. After some google sleuthing, I am pretty sure it is a Zenith MinisPort.

I haven't watched any more of the video... but there is probably some really cool stuff there. Hopefully someone can get in there to save that computer equipment from further neglect.

EDIT: Just clicked through the video a bit and I see some newer systems from the 2000s, I think a Dell from the mid 2000s, and at least one old Computer Shopper magazine decaying in a heap in the basement.

The person that lived there was definitely not living in a healthy way even before the house was abandoned.

... still, with a respirator and some good gloves + boots, I'd dig through that place. 😅

Last edited by Ozzuneoj on 2026-04-25, 20:04. Edited 1 time in total.

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.

Reply 31244 of 31246, by MattRocks

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giantenemycat wrote on 2026-04-23, 23:36:
Got the dodgy negative done professionally. It was indeed an AST Bravo MS/LC (probably LC) 51xx/52xx from the 1997 430TX series! […]
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giantenemycat wrote on 2026-04-20, 01:14:
MattRocks wrote on 2026-04-19, 06:30:
My understanding is that we don't actually forget anything. Instead, what happens is certain memories become hard to access due […]
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My understanding is that we don't actually forget anything. Instead, what happens is certain memories become hard to access due to bandwidth limitations.

And, we don't index or recall our memories in chronological order. Instead, we recall them by associations (smells, motions, emotions, temperature, heart rate, etc.)

So if you model how you completely felt when you were fixing your PC, and relive that complete set of associations, it's possible you might recall technical specifications you once knew.

But beware - when you recall memories, you also write new memories of recalling memories (recursion) and so un-recalled detail can be buried even further! Given that sensitivity, you might not benefit from a half-arsed practice run.

This is, imho, the entire thesis of therapy in a single post because if you think about it.. a person is the sum of their memories, and the way a person experiences anything is really just an effect of how they remember experiencing something else..

I don't trust my memories tbh. In the lifetime of that PC I was 6-12, and all I knew about PCs was that they had the Pentiums - Pentium this, Pentium that. In fact I remember telling people I had a Pentium II, but a printed Windows resource summary report I found a couple years ago indicates it was actually just a Pentium (MMX). So why was I so sure it was a PII?

I only think I know what PC it was because of that report, thanks to the BIOS revision and date listed. And some elements of the design do ring a bell, while some others kinda don't. So could be a red herring. I just need enough detail from that potato photo after processing the negative to tell if it's this specific AST Bravo LC/MS 51xx/52xx series chassis design. If it's not, then RIP.

Got the dodgy negative done professionally. It was indeed an AST Bravo MS/LC (probably LC) 51xx/52xx from the 1997 430TX series! Now I can just about make out the sticker above the W95 one is the plain blue "Intel Pentium" sticker, not MMX. So that narrows it down LC 5166 or 5200. No way to tell if the CPU was upgraded by my dad's friend before he sold it to him though. Probably not?

It was definitely a choice to have the left speaker underneath, next to the printer. Much like the bright green painted walls were also...interesting. And of course I've got my stack of Sold Out Software games at the bottom.

Anyone think they can figure out what monitor that is?

I found nothing conclusive.

First I flicked through a 1993 magazine and saw few monitors with the same general shape - no match. I did find a list of Mitsubishi (MGA) and MAG monitors for sale, and searched for those models - no match, but not all models returned results. I saw no MGA logo on any monitors. MAG typically have compressed letters followed by a logo, so I could not rule them out. Next, I flicked through a 1991 magazine. The general shape of your monitor was more common in 1991 than 1993 but the magazine I flicked through had poor images - no match. I didn't find a list of monitors sold in 1991. I saw only two brands position their logo top-left: IBM and CompuAdd. The EnergyStar logo can also appear in top corners from 1992.

Sorry I couldn't be more help.

Milestones [ MOS 7501 → 68030 → x86(P5/MMX) → x86(K6-2) → x86(K7*) → PPC(G3*) → x86-64(K8) → x86-64(Xeon) → x86-64(i5) → x86-64(i7) ] * original lost

Reply 31245 of 31246, by MattRocks

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Ozzuneoj wrote on Yesterday, 19:25:
The CRT on the left is a Compudyne. […]
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Nexxen wrote on Yesterday, 09:39:
Not really correct post but I was watching this: https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330 […]
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Not really correct post but I was watching this:
https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330

and noticed the pc behind the guy. I can't remember what it was but sure it's a piece of retrotech.

And there's more later on... 😀

The CRT on the left is a Compudyne.

The tower on the table behind the bust seems to be an NEC Ready system of some sort.

There is a portable computer on top of the printer\plotter(?) next to the NEC. After some google sleuthing, I am pretty sure it is a Zenith MinisPort.

I haven't watched any more of the video... but there is probably some really cool stuff there. Hopefully someone can get in there to save that computer equipment from further neglect.

EDIT: Just clicked through the video a bit and I see some newer systems from the 2000s, I think a Dell from the mid 2000s, and at least one old Computer Shopper magazine decaying in a heap in the basement.

The person that lived there was definitely not living in a healthy way even before the house was abandoned.

... still, with a respirator and some good gloves + boots, I'd dig through that place. 😅

Did you see the shelves of PCs nearer the end of the video? That was no casual PC owner. I'd offer a free house clearance.

Milestones [ MOS 7501 → 68030 → x86(P5/MMX) → x86(K6-2) → x86(K7*) → PPC(G3*) → x86-64(K8) → x86-64(Xeon) → x86-64(i5) → x86-64(i7) ] * original lost

Reply 31246 of 31246, by Nexxen

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MattRocks wrote on Yesterday, 20:23:
Ozzuneoj wrote on Yesterday, 19:25:
The CRT on the left is a Compudyne. […]
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Nexxen wrote on Yesterday, 09:39:
Not really correct post but I was watching this: https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330 […]
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Not really correct post but I was watching this:
https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330

and noticed the pc behind the guy. I can't remember what it was but sure it's a piece of retrotech.

And there's more later on... 😀

The CRT on the left is a Compudyne.

The tower on the table behind the bust seems to be an NEC Ready system of some sort.

There is a portable computer on top of the printer\plotter(?) next to the NEC. After some google sleuthing, I am pretty sure it is a Zenith MinisPort.

I haven't watched any more of the video... but there is probably some really cool stuff there. Hopefully someone can get in there to save that computer equipment from further neglect.

EDIT: Just clicked through the video a bit and I see some newer systems from the 2000s, I think a Dell from the mid 2000s, and at least one old Computer Shopper magazine decaying in a heap in the basement.

The person that lived there was definitely not living in a healthy way even before the house was abandoned.

... still, with a respirator and some good gloves + boots, I'd dig through that place. 😅

Did you see the shelves of PCs nearer the end of the video? That was no casual PC owner. I'd offer a free house clearance.

Yeah, the dude in there had some interesting stuff.

Ozzuneoj wrote on Yesterday, 19:25:
The CRT on the left is a Compudyne. […]
Show full quote
Nexxen wrote on Yesterday, 09:39:
Not really correct post but I was watching this: https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330 […]
Show full quote

Not really correct post but I was watching this:
https://youtu.be/BmAQ472HjuM?t=330

and noticed the pc behind the guy. I can't remember what it was but sure it's a piece of retrotech.

And there's more later on... 😀

The CRT on the left is a Compudyne.

The tower on the table behind the bust seems to be an NEC Ready system of some sort.

There is a portable computer on top of the printer\plotter(?) next to the NEC. After some google sleuthing, I am pretty sure it is a Zenith MinisPort.

I haven't watched any more of the video... but there is probably some really cool stuff there. Hopefully someone can get in there to save that computer equipment from further neglect.

EDIT: Just clicked through the video a bit and I see some newer systems from the 2000s, I think a Dell from the mid 2000s, and at least one old Computer Shopper magazine decaying in a heap in the basement.

The person that lived there was definitely not living in a healthy way even before the house was abandoned.

... still, with a respirator and some good gloves + boots, I'd dig through that place. 😅

I'd go for sure. It's all gonna end in some landfill IMO.

PC#1 Pentium 233 MMX - 98SE
PC#2 PIII-1Ghz - 98SE/W2K

- "One hates the specialty unobtainium parts, the other laughs in greed listing them under a ridiculous price" - kotel studios
- Bare metal ist krieg.