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Reply 31400 of 31407, by Nexxen

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MattRocks wrote on Yesterday, 12:43:
Nexxen wrote on Yesterday, 11:33:
DaveDDS wrote on Yesterday, 11:12:
When it makes a disk "unrecoverable" are there any physical signs? Usually when drives start damaging media it's because of "cra […]
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When it makes a disk "unrecoverable" are there any physical signs? Usually when drives start damaging media it's because of "crap" sticking to the head which scrapes away at the disks magnetic coating producing visible lines where the head touches it while spinning,

It's been years since I had an LS120 ... I recall that it does higher capacity on "special" disks, but I don't recall if it can access/use "standard" 3.5" disks. If it can ... does the same kind of damage occur in those?

If no visible damage, try using a bulk eraser to completely "unformat" the disk, then see if it can be formatted/used in another drive.

And... the question ... how/why does it "jam", sounds like more than the media is getting damaged...?

I can confirm that it can read 3.5" floppies.
It was considered good at it.

When it worked, it was very good in a MMX/P2 build when USB was unreliable and CDR was slow. But, they were never critical. No publisher distributed software on LS120.

I think so after reading and watching stuff about it.
Other competitors were around.
I never heard of Caleb or Castlewood or Sony HiFD before some YT video review and it didn't end well for those.

Never made it to Italy or with too little publicity before they got boxed for good.
CDs and CD-RW made that tech irrelevant.
Zip wasn't that popular over here, most people wouldn't need it. Me finding a floptical 21MB was kinda pretty much sheer luck.
This is just me rambling 😀

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Reply 31401 of 31407, by Law212

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I fixed the LED on my new 486. It didnt take much it just needed some added jumpers. Now the machine looks great. Though i think some cleaning of the case is still needed. Then I played some games on it.
I upgrade the HDD from 200 Megs to 2 Gigs. Added a CR Rom drive, removed the 8 megs or Ram and added 16 Megs. Put in a Jazz 16 sound card.

Reply 31402 of 31407, by RetroLizard

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I've been looking around at Socket 7 options, and now I think it's best to ask for some pointers. Prebuilt computers (Compaq, HP, Dell, etc.) or custom built are both options; I have no real preference towards either side, so long as they meet the following criteria:

  • Must have AGP.
  • Must have upgradable RAM. Up to 256MB preferred.
  • Must be compatible with (somewhat modern) ATX power supplies.

Following those criteria, does anybody have pointers?

Reply 31403 of 31407, by PD2JK

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AGP you say, VP3 / MVP3, Aladdin V or SiS 5591/5592 ?

Mind the L2 cache if you want to fully cache 256MB or more.

has all kinds of stuff

Reply 31404 of 31407, by RetroLizard

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PD2JK wrote on Today, 17:10:

AGP you say, VP3 / MVP3, Aladdin V or SiS 5591/5592 ?

Which one would be recommended?

Reply 31405 of 31407, by MattRocks

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RetroLizard wrote on Today, 16:23:
I've been looking around at Socket 7 options, and now I think it's best to ask for some pointers. Prebuilt computers (Compaq, HP […]
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I've been looking around at Socket 7 options, and now I think it's best to ask for some pointers. Prebuilt computers (Compaq, HP, Dell, etc.) or custom built are both options; I have no real preference towards either side, so long as they meet the following criteria:

  • Must have AGP.
  • Must have upgradable RAM. Up to 256MB preferred.
  • Must be compatible with (somewhat modern) ATX power supplies.

Following those criteria, does anybody have pointers?

AGP puts you in Super Socket 7 era. The Super matters because it's a generation later and the chipsets feature working USB, SB-Link, etc.

I'd be surprised if you find much choice as the whole class of machine is now uncommon.

Desktop timeline [ MOS 7501 → 68030 → x86(P5/MMX) → x86(K6-2) → x86(K7*) → PPC(G3*) → x86-64(K8) → x86-64(Xeon) → x86-64(i5) → x86-64(i7) ] * lost

Reply 31406 of 31407, by MattRocks

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RetroLizard wrote on 52 minutes ago:
PD2JK wrote on Today, 17:10:

AGP you say, VP3 / MVP3, Aladdin V or SiS 5591/5592 ?

Which one would be recommended?

I used MPV3 and Aladdin V.

I prefer Aladdin V but the differences are probably more with branding and board features rather than chipset. The one I prefer has switches instead of jumpers, and it's just slightly nicer layout. Same board that features on Phil's Lab.

Desktop timeline [ MOS 7501 → 68030 → x86(P5/MMX) → x86(K6-2) → x86(K7*) → PPC(G3*) → x86-64(K8) → x86-64(Xeon) → x86-64(i5) → x86-64(i7) ] * lost

Reply 31407 of 31407, by RetroLizard

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MattRocks wrote on 48 minutes ago:
RetroLizard wrote on 52 minutes ago:
PD2JK wrote on Today, 17:10:

AGP you say, VP3 / MVP3, Aladdin V or SiS 5591/5592 ?

Which one would be recommended?

I used MPV3 and Aladdin V.

I prefer Aladdin V but the differences are probably more with branding and board features rather than chipset. The one I prefer has switches instead of jumpers, and it's just slightly nicer layout. Same board that features on Phil's Lab.

Would SS7 work with modern power supplies?