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First post, by nitro2k01

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I have an old generic Pentium laptop. The label on the bottom says Multimedia Notebook Computer, model number 86 and FCC ID: FMA86T. The Swedish reseller's label says LapLine 8630T, although it was sold under many names. It's one of those with a little LCD indicator display below the screen for indicating battery status, caps/num ock and such. The BIOS screen says SystemSoft BIOS for UMC8890 version 1.01 (2487-10), NoteBook Computer Version 1.20.1.01 07-05-96-39C.

The symptoms of the patient: it starts to the BIOS screen that I mentioned, and gets no further and seems crashed. No RAM count, drive enumeration etc. I've tried various things to look for a sign of life, like pressing caps and num lock (no reaction) or mashing keys in the hopes that it would fill up the key buffer and beep. But no beep was heard. I've also tried reseating the two 8 MB RAM sticks, and booting without the RAM sticks in, but still no difference. There's also a jumper next to the (absolutely tiny) BIOS battery which I've removed in case that would help somehow, but still nothing.

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It has no battery and runs from an external 12 V DC adapter. I know laptops, even ones marked 15 V can often run on 12 V, just not charge the battery. But the label explicitly says 10-20 VDC, so that's not likely to be an issue either way.

It also has no HDD or HDD caddy. (Never had while in my possession.) There's some history of how I've solved that in the past. I removed the CD drive a long time ago and placed an IDE to CF card adapter there instead. The BIOS wouldn't recognize this "HDD" since it was on the CD drive's IDE channel, but I found a software that would scan all IDE channels and detect the CF card and add it to the BIOS drive table. I put this on a boot floppy which I then set up to chainload the HDD using osme method, probably GRUB4DOS. But I can't find the boot floppy now. I would like to find this software again, if I get this laptop working again in general. Or better yet, another solution like it that doesn't rely on the flaky floppy drive, like a BIOS hack.

Another potential thing I could try if it could help is that I have PCMCIA network cards that I might be able to burn an option ROM to, but I think I've tried that in the past and the laptop just wouldn't detect the option ROM at all. So maybe this BIOS just doesn't support option ROM?

I could also potentially build a POST code display for the LPT port if this BIOS is known to output POST codes.

It's frustrating though because the laptop apparently isn't 100% dead since it does show something on screen and it has worked in the past. I just don't know what to try next at this point. Grateful for any help.

Reply 1 of 3, by MagefromAntares

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Hi,

I have no knowledge of this exact computer and a quick online search doesn't give me relevant results for "LapLine 8630T", however if I understand correctly both the BIOS battery and the regular battery of the laptop is not installed now?

There are some laptops which refuse to boot if both of them are missing. Maybe if you can replace the BIOS battery it can boot, just an idea however.

"A process cannot be understood by stopping it. Understanding must move with the flow of the process, must join it and flow with it." - Dune

Reply 2 of 3, by nitro2k01

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The laptop has definitely worked without the main battery in the past so that shouldn't be an issue. (It never had the battery while in my ownership.) The BIOS battery is still physically in the laptop because it's soldered in. I checked continuity which tells me the jumper I removed was NOT for the BIOS battery, or at least it's not directly connected to it. However, it's also very dead. But given the comically small size for the job it's supposed to do (CR1225) I suspect it has been dead for pretty much the whole 15 or so years I've owned the laptop. And shouldn't that show a BIOS error anyway, as opposed to locking and being completely unresponsive?

Reply 3 of 3, by MagefromAntares

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Hmm yes that seems to be unlikely to be the cause, the laptops with which I experienced this issue of not booting when neither battery is present had a completely blank screen not even showing a single line message.

What happens if you try to enter the BIOS using a key combination(del, F11, other usual key combinations) while turning the computer on, right after pressing the power button?

EDIT: Also re-reading your first post, you mention that you have tried reseating the two RAM sticks and trying without RAM sticks, but have you tried it with a single RAM stick? Maybe one of them gone wrong and the computer cannot boot without a single one, so trying it with a single RAM stick might work.

"A process cannot be understood by stopping it. Understanding must move with the flow of the process, must join it and flow with it." - Dune