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First post, by marxveix

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ATi Rage128Pro drivers and software ( including OpenGL information ). Focus is still on Win9x, newer OS has more and better cards options to select. I must say that Rage128 still has many other OS support, not Win 3.x compatible, but in some resolutions Rage128Pro cards seems to be fastest DOS cards out there. Have you ever before heard of Rage128Pro2 (later and bit cooler chips)? Its like Rage3 with its XL/XC cards, also later and tiny cards, good also for low profile builds.I dont own Rage128Pro2 at the moment, but it should be out of the box bit faster and cooler than other Rage4 cards. I would like to get one ATi Rage128 Ultra (Pro2) 109-73100-02 tiny AGP card. Sometimes smaller size means better.We are out of 8MB (16MB in Mac) situation with Rage4 and easly up to 8/16/32MB if not talking about Rage Maxx 64MB cards (2xRage128Pro), great piece of dual graphics history that also supported Win9x.

What a great old videocards if used with better drivers and software, bit similar to Rage3, but driver components not so flexible. I have some collection of drivers and software for Rage4 based cards. I mostly use them with Win9x and have Direct3D/OpenGL/DVD acceleration all together. What ATi Rage4 software you may use that i know nothing about? Maybe someone could tell me what ATi software is latest or best for Rage4 cards, i am sure i have missed some drivers and software for Rage4. What about Rage4 bioses and flash tools tha work, maybe bios editor? If you have some software or fast drivers that you use and it is compatible with Rage4, share it! I will collect here all Rage4 information and i am not abandoned Rage3, just less things to discover there. It takes bit time to test some software and games, but bit by bit i will add something new. This topic is good for Rage4 OpenGL as well, with Rage3 i did more separate topics. Now 2in1 or AllinOne.

Anyone that wants good information about Rage128 / Rage128Pro / Rage128Pro2 are welcome here.
Read retrohardware site topics, most complete - but still much to figure out about newer Rage4 chip
https://www.retrohardware-reviews.de/ati-rage … -of-the-series/
https://www.retrohardware-reviews.de/ati-rage … e-right-driver/
https://www.retrohardware-reviews.de/category/gpu-database/

Takedasun online storage for ATi Rage4
Stuff for Rage128/Rage128Pro/Drivers/OpenGL/Tweakers/Txt/Wallpaper
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/eV600jDAliJ_3w/Tweak … 0Rage%20128?w=1
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/eV600jDAliJ_3w/Win9x_Rage128?w=1
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/eV600jDAliJ_3w/Win9x … Fury%20Maxx?w=1
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/eV600jDAliJ_3w/DLL_O … 0Rage%20128?w=1
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/eV600jDAliJ_3w/Tweak … 8%20Tweaker?w=1
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/eV600jDAliJ_3w/TXT_A … 0Rage%20128?w=1
https://disk.yandex.ru/d/eV600jDAliJ_3w/_Wallpaper?w=1

ATi Rage4 is underrated like Rage3 is, both are good at palleted textures in D3D and GLDirect OpenGL.
Fog is not fully supported, they have partial or bit broken table fog, at least RageXL/XC and Rage128s.
For Rage128 / Rage128 Pro try out older OpenGL 1274 file, it has less extensions, but also is faster. 😀
Later OpenGL versions are true OpenGL 1.2, but older are OpenGL 1.1+, its first ATi true MutiTexture.

This tiny ATi Rage128Pro2 with 4xsdram is fastest Rage 128 card - 109-73100-02
https://www.retrohardware-reviews.de/109-7310 … -rage-128-pro2/

You have to check that it has 4xrams, if 2xram then slower puppy!
https://theretroweb.com/expansioncards/s/ati- … 28-pro-ultra-gl

Rage128 driver 4.12.6292 + OpenGL 1274 should be good/best combo.
At least for more older machines and retro OpenGL 1.1+,+multitexture
I will do my testing and clean Win9x install and i will take some time. 😀
Release bit tweaked drivers in future, but its almost summer, i am out.

From newer driver releases i found 4.13.8002 driver and there are more
undiscovered ones, but latest so far is 4.13.8006 beta drivers, still 4.11
and 4.12 drivers are usually faster and also older OpenGL 1274 with Q2.
For now i added here this older Rage4OpenGL1274 file with screenshot
What you think about ATi Rage128Pro cards, does it have what it takes?

Best ATi Rage3 drivers for 3DCIF / Direct3D / OpenGL / GLUT / DVD : ATi RagePro drivers and software
33+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi-Rage3 based cards : Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files

Reply 1 of 10, by leileilol

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I've only had to use the final driver. Unlike the Rage Pro/II it's an actual proper videocard with full hardware blending that doesn't need no repacked frankendriver nonsense cluttering every thread that makes a mention of Rage. Paletted texture support is an opt-in for reduced performance reasons.

Vogonsdrivers already has a bundle of the 2001 drivers that one needs

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Reply 2 of 10, by marxveix

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Final Rage128 drivers are not the best if you want more performance out of older pc and it does not have working table fog. Even only about table fog quest, its good to search other drivers (uncharted). Gona 3DCIF site did not locate two newer cif drivers, 4.11.2582 and 4.11.2611 releases back then and his site still states that 4.11.2611 drivers do not work with Rage XL/XC AGP, but it does, basic-ly just 4 modified files and for the compatibility changed more driver files. All are original ATi files, just with renamed file names inside files and files sometimes from different versions. ATi2DRAB driver also work for 3DCIF and better version i will release later. ATi2DRAD driver i have not much to add at the moment, maybe better refresh rate option. I would liked to have Rage XL/XC PCI (4752 and 4753) to get 3DCIF also, but so far total support have not come out of it. ATi Rage128Pro has DXTC and real MultiTexture and even better DVD support and Rage Pro MultiTexture is not real MT.

Probably i start by collecting ATiRage128 OpenGLs for Win9x first, like i have searched them for Rage Pro, Thank you!

Best ATi Rage3 drivers for 3DCIF / Direct3D / OpenGL / GLUT / DVD : ATi RagePro drivers and software
33+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi-Rage3 based cards : Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files

Reply 3 of 10, by Narokath

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I'd quite like to have one for my K6-III+ machine, but actually finding and identifying one of the decent ones that has both a 128-bit memory bus AND the full 32MB of VRAM is quite difficult (even with the help of the German site in the OP). ATI's practice of using the same model number for a bunch of different variants is most annoying.

Reply 4 of 10, by marxveix

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Narokath wrote on 2026-05-26, 10:07:

I'd quite like to have one for my K6-III+ machine, but actually finding and identifying one of the decent ones that has both a 128-bit memory bus AND the full 32MB of VRAM is quite difficult (even with the help of the German site in the OP). ATI's practice of using the same model number for a bunch of different variants is most annoying.

More memory ships, thats usually 128bit and SGRAM ones are usually 128bit. If you dont use much DX7 games and use mainly DX6.1 and older, its nice to have Rage128Pro.
3D Mark99 Max can be similar speed to Geforce2MX,MX has advantage in Table Fog and DX7 T&L (3D Mark2K). I like to have AMD/ATi or Intel/Nvidia solution + i mix it also.

ATi Rage card has better ATi DVD MPEG2 (MMC).MMC is for both, RagePro / Rage128 / Pro
Here are some bencmarks: ATi Rage 128 series benchmarks and performance comparrison

Best ATi Rage3 drivers for 3DCIF / Direct3D / OpenGL / GLUT / DVD : ATi RagePro drivers and software
33+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi-Rage3 based cards : Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files

Reply 5 of 10, by Socket3

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Narokath wrote on 2026-05-26, 10:07:

I'd quite like to have one for my K6-III+ machine, but actually finding and identifying one of the decent ones that has both a 128-bit memory bus AND the full 32MB of VRAM is quite difficult (even with the help of the German site in the OP). ATI's practice of using the same model number for a bunch of different variants is most annoying.

Have a look at my thread here: ATi Rage 128 series benchmarks and performance comparrison for a visual example,

The faster cards are based on the Rage Fury (Rage 128 II 4x) and can be easily identified by the AGP connector - they use an universal AGP goldfinger with two notches. You can identify 128 bit cards by the board size and nr. of memory chips. Low profile 128bit Rage Fury Ultra cards have 4 32bit memory chips. Regular size 128bit Rage Fury Ultra cards have 4 32bit memory SGRAM chips and 128 Rage Fury Pro's have 8 16 bit SGRAM chips - square-ish ICs, 4 on the front, 4 on the back. There are also 'L" shaped Rage Fury that come with 2 or 4 32 bit memory chips. The 4 chip cards are the 128bit ones. Be wary as there are also Rage 128 GL cards in this form factor, and these are very slow. You can tell witch one is the faster Rage Fury by the AGP connector. 1 notch = rage 128, 2 notches = rage fury. Best bet is to check the memory IC's datasheet. If it sais "32bit data path" and there are 4 chips, then you have a 128bit card.

The safest bets are the 4 chip low profile or L shaped cards with and univesal AGP goldfinger (AGP4x) and the larger heatsink with no writing.

"L" Shaped 128 bit Rage Fury Ultra:

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Low profile 128 bit Rage Fury ultra:

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Regular size 128 bit 4 chip Rage Fury Ultra:

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Reply 6 of 10, by marxveix

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Socket3 wrote on 2026-05-27, 18:08:

Regular size 128 bit 4 chip Rage Fury Ultra:

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Thanks for the sceenshots of the cards, this Rage128Pro with PN 109-63200-01 has three output/input versions available with exact same model number:
Vga, no other input / output - noRage Theatre chip (109-63200-01)
Vga, Svideo, Composite, No In! - Rage Theatre chip (109-63200-01)
Vga, Svideo, Composite In/Out - Rage Theatre chip (109-63200-01)

Best ATi Rage3 drivers for 3DCIF / Direct3D / OpenGL / GLUT / DVD : ATi RagePro drivers and software
33+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi-Rage3 based cards : Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files

Reply 7 of 10, by havli

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Socket3 wrote on 2026-05-27, 18:08:

The safest bets are the 4 chip low profile or L shaped cards with and univesal AGP goldfinger (AGP4x) and the larger heatsink with no writing.

"L" Shaped 128 bit Rage Fury Ultra:

Actually, this one is 64-bit. As a matter of fact all L shaped Rage 128/pro I have ever seen were 64-bit. So they are best to avoid if you care about performance. Also the low profile R128 Ultra exist in 16 MB/64-bit form - two memory chips are missing in that case... so watch out about those too.

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Reply 8 of 10, by Socket3

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havli wrote on 2026-05-27, 19:43:
Socket3 wrote on 2026-05-27, 18:08:

The safest bets are the 4 chip low profile or L shaped cards with and univesal AGP goldfinger (AGP4x) and the larger heatsink with no writing.

"L" Shaped 128 bit Rage Fury Ultra:

Actually, this one is 64-bit. As a matter of fact all L shaped Rage 128/pro I have ever seen were 64-bit. So they are best to avoid if you care about performance. Also the low profile R128 Ultra exist in 16 MB/64-bit form - two memory chips are missing in that case... so watch out about those too.

The 1st gen AGP 2x rage 128 (Rage 128 GL/Xpert 2000) is indeed 64 bit, but the AGP4x L shaped card is a Rage Fury / Xpert 2000 PRO using the Rage 128 Pro II 4x chipset with a 128 bit memory interface. It uses the exact same ram as my Dell card but it's clocked at 120Mhz core and 120MHz vram. Everst confirms the 128bit memory bus. As far as I know all L shaped GL's (2X cards) are 64 bit and all L shaped Fury (4X cards) are 128 bit. I also have an L shaped Rage Fury PRO card with only 2 memory chips - that one is 64 bit. But I wouldn't be surprised if there are 64 bit agp 4x cards with 4 memory chips out there as well - ATi liked things nice and confusing.

Reply 9 of 10, by havli

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The one on the photo however can't be 128-bit, unless there are another 4 memory chips on the back (unlikely). This card uses TSOP 54 memory chips, and they are always 16 bit/chip. It is possible to have L shaped card with 4 TSOP 86 chips (they are 32 bit/chip) of course. But I have never seen one.

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Reply 10 of 10, by marxveix

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Win9x ATiStyle MultiMedia (Best for ATi Rage3 and ATi Rage4 type of cards)

Do you know the style or theme for the ATiDVD / ATiMMC at the time of Win9x?
There are other similar looking skin/program that welcomes ATi Media Center!
Like Winamp 2.xx with this ATi skin for MP3 and Radiator for FM radiocards.
These programs complete Rage Pro / Rage 128 Pro use for the old HTPC setup.

ATi Remote Wonder with Rage3 or 4 would be nice addon. Strange that ATi did not
use same style for its Video Player.Missing Divx/Xvid part with the same style.

For complete package use these with ATi MMC 6.30
ATi Multimedia Center (For TV, DVD and Video CD)
Winamp with this skin (All other audio purposes)
Radiator (For FM radio: listening and recording)

Some versions of ATi MultiMedia Center 6.30 does not have DVD, others have!
Install ATi DVD player after or before ATi MultiMedia Center and it adds it.
ATiStyle MultiMedia.7z file fits to the attachment and its added also here.

Best ATi Rage3 drivers for 3DCIF / Direct3D / OpenGL / GLUT / DVD : ATi RagePro drivers and software
33+MiniGL / OpenGL Win 9x dll files for all ATi-Rage3 based cards : Re: ATi RagePro OpenGL files