Shponglefan wrote on Today, 14:52:

bitzu101 wrote on Today, 14:48:

How on earth do you put a 150 gb game on dvd's?

It worked fine when games were like 500mb to 10 12 gb.... but 150gb...?

Bluray disks can store in excess of 100 gb.

Freaking aye... did not even know them things existed. Thought there were no more blu ray players/disks for years now....

i also thought that both xbox and ps5 have done away with the optical drives...

Shponglefan wrote on Today, 14:52:

bitzu101 wrote on Today, 14:48:

How on earth do you put a 150 gb game on dvd's?

It worked fine when games were like 500mb to 10 12 gb.... but 150gb...?

Bluray disks can store in excess of 100 gb.

well sure but not 500 gbs of updates and still the games being stamped on these discs and carts are incomplete and just a filler or wrapper or license thingy that acts as a shim because the games still need to download. I mean you cant just install it and play it offline off the bat

twiz11 wrote on Today, 15:03:

Shponglefan wrote on Today, 14:52:

bitzu101 wrote on Today, 14:48:

How on earth do you put a 150 gb game on dvd's?

It worked fine when games were like 500mb to 10 12 gb.... but 150gb...?

Bluray disks can store in excess of 100 gb.

well sure but not 500 gbs of updates and still the games being stamped on these discs and carts are incomplete and just a filler or wrapper or license thingy that acts as a shim because the games still need to download. I mean you cant just install it and play it offline off the bat

0,5 TB for a game ? 😨

How on earth would this fit on a PS5/6 HDD?!

Sony has dropped the planned 2TB of storage for the PlayStation 6 down to 1TB, to save costs.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/110763/ps6-to- … izes/index.html

bitzu101 wrote on Today, 14:57:

Freaking aye... did not even know them things existed. Thought there were no more blu ray players/disks for years now....

i also thought that both xbox and ps5 have done away with the optical drives...

Well the drive is now optional on PS5. But the PS5 physical games are blu-ray.

leonardo wrote on Today, 10:05:

I looked at PS4 and XBOX back when and thought: You get the game, you have to install it as if it were a PC, you have to download gigabytes of patches and updates to run the game - and at some point those things stop being available.

The PS4 era games were still mostly playable from discs, after a mandatory install to the HDD of course. But there were indeed some exceptions, where the disc only held the installer, and you had to download the rest of the game from PSN. Sadly, this became more common during the PS5 era.

twiz11 wrote on Today, 15:03:

Shponglefan wrote on Today, 14:52:

bitzu101 wrote on Today, 14:48:

How on earth do you put a 150 gb game on dvd's?

It worked fine when games were like 500mb to 10 12 gb.... but 150gb...?

Bluray disks can store in excess of 100 gb.

well sure but not 500 gbs of updates and still the games being stamped on these discs and carts are incomplete and just a filler or wrapper or license thingy that acts as a shim because the games still need to download. I mean you cant just install it and play it offline off the bat

so what is the point of the optical disk?

if you still need to connect to the internet and download stuff anyway?

think the era of the DISK has passed. updates and upgrades are now so common , would be impossible to put on disks.

Joseph_Joestar wrote on Today, 16:03:

leonardo wrote on Today, 10:05:

I looked at PS4 and XBOX back when and thought: You get the game, you have to install it as if it were a PC, you have to download gigabytes of patches and updates to run the game - and at some point those things stop being available.

The PS4 era games were still mostly playable from discs, after a mandatory install to the HDD of course. But there were indeed some exceptions, where the disc only held the installer, and you had to download the rest of the game from PSN. Sadly, this became more common during the PS5 era.

that era has passed mate...

some games are huge... and some are VERY huge... and consoles like xbox and PS5 do not have the graphical quality as on pc's... once the graphics on these consols will increase so will the space required.

in the next 10 years we will have the era of graphics that look like it s real , that will use so much space and will need so much more processing power.... don t think there is a optical media with such capacities.

Shponglefan wrote on Today, 14:28:

Steam has also been around for 22 years. There are PC gamers that have grown up in an environment where Steam and digital distribution of PC games is the norm.

It helps that Steam is superior to PSN in every conceivable way.

Ever tried to refund a game on PSN due to bugs/crashes? Even after just 30 minutes of play time? Yeah, Sony doesn't care, and will outright deny the refund in most cases. Unless the game is super high profile and also completely, bugged like the PS4 version of Cyberpunk 2077 at launch.

bitzu101 wrote on Today, 16:09:

in the next 10 years we will have the era of graphics that look like it s real , that will use so much space and will need so much more processing power.... don t think there is a optical media with such capacities.

Not yet, but there is still hope.

See here: https://arstechnica.com/science/2026/02/micro … e-medium-glass/

jmarsh wrote on Today, 14:37:

Ozzuneoj wrote on 2026-07-04, 16:51:

The ever dropping price of games

Hold up, the what now? Big name games are more expensive now than ever before. In AU pricing, 007 First Light was $100. Resident Evil 9 was $108. Death Stranding 2 was a whopping $125.

Sorry to hear about the AU pricing of games. Looks like the conversion rate for USD to AU is 0.69 to 1, so a $70 game in the US (what most AAA games are now) would be around $100 AU just with the conversion rate alone. I won't attempt to explain the difference beyond that.

In the US the price of high-profile PC games hasn't really changed all that much in 30 years, so accounting for inflation the price has actually gone down (outside of ludicrously priced collectors editions, of course). Most high profile PC games from the early to mid 90s were $49.99 US, which is the equivalent of over $110 US now. If you were shopping at small local PC\software shops some PC games could be $70-$80+ even back in the mid 90s. If we look at console games they were even worse. Nintendo 64 games could be $60-$80 from 1995 to 1998. There were even some ridiculously high priced SNES and Sega Genesis games back in the day. Phantasy Star IV was $99 US at release in ~1995 due to the complexity of the cartridge, which would be over $200 US today ($288 AUD). The normal price for big name PC games started hitting $60 around 20 years ago and it has only gone up around $10 here since then.

But, to be honest, I wasn't talking about high profile games. I can't even think of the last big-name AAA game I purchased... maybe No Man's Sky from 2016 would count, though I bought that for $24 on sale in 2017 after lots of updates. Subnautica 2 is pretty easily at AAA level of popularity but is nowhere near AAA retail price. It is currently in early access, but it's only $29.99 US (equivalent to $14 US in 1996...).

I have been buying mostly game bundles for the past 15 years, with an average price per-game that I'll actually play (not even counting the games in the bundle I have no intention of playing) somewhere in the $1-$4 range most of the time. If I buy a game on Steam or GoG it is very rarely over $20, and I get a lot of excellent games... including new games from smaller studios.

This wasn't even possible 25-30 years ago. So, on average, PC games are unquestionably cheaper than they used to be. The way we do things now would have been like going to Electronics Boutique back in the late 90s, filling a shopping cart with highly-rated games, dropping a $10 bill on the counter to pay for them and coming back every month and doing the same thing with totally new (but still great) games. Completely unheard of back then.

Ozzuneoj wrote on Today, 17:53:

This wasn't even possible 25-30 years ago.

It depends. Those "great value" re-releases of older games were around 5-10 EUR in my neck of the woods. And that was for a new, factory sealed copy. Used copies were even cheaper. For example, I bought the "BestSeller" versions of StarCraft and Diablo II for 5 EUR each around 2005 or so. I still have them, and the discs work fine even 20 years later.

Joseph_Joestar wrote on Today, 18:26:

Ozzuneoj wrote on Today, 17:53:

This wasn't even possible 25-30 years ago.

It depends. Those "great value" re-releases of older games were around 5-10 EUR in my neck of the woods. And that was for a new, factory sealed copy. Used copies were even cheaper. For example, I bought the "BestSeller" versions of StarCraft and Diablo II for 5 EUR each around 2005 or so. I still have them, and the discs work fine even 20 years later.

Oh yeah, stuff like that existed... I bought discounted games all the time. But the number of games available was quite limited once you bought the ones that were cheap. Now you can buy whole bundles of 5-20 games for $10-$20, and there can be half a dozen bundles of different games available every month or so (and that's just at Humble).

Or, brand new games can be released at $5-$6 and be popular enough to sell 15 million copies in a few weeks. That would have been like a game being released at $3 20 years ago, or around $2 back in the 90s and being popular enough to outsell Doom shareware in less than a month.

It is just a different market now, and digital-only game distribution has allowed this to happen.