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NEC 486 Chipset

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Reply 20 of 29, by gonzobizarro

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mcfly wrote on 2018-08-07, 19:09:

Just in case I am uploading my BIOS, I suspect the image is corrupted and working copy would be nice to compare. Unless of course somebody know how to identify parts from this cryptic ascii arts 😀

Hi! Just wanted to thank you for attaching the BIOS dump. I managed to get one of these boards, but it had some random EEPROM chip inserted (completely unrelated contents) by previous owner. I tried yours and the board works fine! Whatever issue you've had with yours, must be related to something else on the board - the BIOS seems OK!
I'll request the BIOS file gets added to RetroWeb's entry on this rare mobo, unless you want to do it yourself (as you are the real source!)?

Reply 21 of 29, by rasz_pl

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Nice necro!

Wow what a weird board. Bios is "Phoenix NuBIOS Version 4.04" dated 09/05/96. Thats two years pre Award Software merger. I havent seen any pure Phoenix bioses before, gonna have some fun with this one.
btw Bios is 64KB only, half the dump is empty and redundant.

https://github.com/raszpl/sigrok-disk FM/MFM/RLL decoder
https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module (AT&T Globalyst)
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 ram board
https://github.com/raszpl/Zenith_ZBIOS Zenith Z-386 MFM-300 ZBIOS disassembly

Reply 22 of 29, by gonzobizarro

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Apologies for the necro post, but this is such a rare board..
@rasz_pl Your comment regarding redundancy of the BIOS file explains why I see pictures of this board with 512kbit chip used for BIOS. By the way, you might find the contents of the chip that came with this board interesting (see attached, note numerous ascii texts in polish language). I think the previous owner just inserted a random chip into this board.

BIOS itself is quite interesting, albeit very limited in options. UI reminds me of Duke Nukem 3D setup 😁

Reply 23 of 29, by rasz_pl

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🤣 its an eprom from polish SCADA controller by enel-automatyka.pl https://delibra.bg.polsl.pl/Content/44869/BCP … ktura-syste.pdf

Weird bios, weird chipset, weird manufacturer, fake cache, whats not to love 😀
When I have some time ill try finding 86box config able to run this bios.

https://github.com/raszpl/sigrok-disk FM/MFM/RLL decoder
https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module (AT&T Globalyst)
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 ram board
https://github.com/raszpl/Zenith_ZBIOS Zenith Z-386 MFM-300 ZBIOS disassembly

Reply 24 of 29, by Babasha

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rasz_pl wrote on 2026-04-24, 19:08:

🤣 its an eprom from polish SCADA controller by enel-automatyka.pl https://delibra.bg.polsl.pl/Content/44869/BCP … ktura-syste.pdf

Weird bios, weird chipset, weird manufacturer, fake cache, whats not to love 😀
When I have some time ill try finding 86box config able to run this bios.

Great! Interesting, not all this pop sh@t

Need help? Begin with photo and model of your hardware 😉

Reply 25 of 29, by youxiaojie

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I got one. could I help your working?
could I upload my versions of bios?

Reply 26 of 29, by youxiaojie

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I am puzzled with 486dlc is 386 pin arrangement, how could it be inserted into socket 3?

Reply 27 of 29, by Cyberdyne

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The fakest NEC chip I have ever seen. 😂

I am aroused about any X86 motherboard that has full functional ISA slot. I think i have problem. Not really into that original (Turbo) XT,286,386 and CGA/EGA stuff. So just a DOS nut.
PS. If I upload RAR, it is a 16-bit DOS RAR Version 2.50.

Reply 28 of 29, by rasz_pl

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this : https://dfarq.homeip.net/texas-instruments-486sxl-cpu/
"TI also offered the 486SXL in 486SX packaging that plugged into a 168-pin socket"
is the only mention of TI variants being made also in 486 pinout I could find. Newer saw such CPU, not that Im a CPU aficionado or anything.

reposting Stojke image as imgur seem to have deleted his original and might delete hotlinked small version too

Cyberdyne wrote on Yesterday, 20:19:

The fakest NEC chip I have ever seen. 😂

NEC did make gate arrays/structured ASICs in the nineties, it would be perfectly reasonable for someone to make a chipset based on such chip and manufacture it at NEC.

https://github.com/raszpl/sigrok-disk FM/MFM/RLL decoder
https://github.com/raszpl/FIC-486-GAC-2-Cache-Module (AT&T Globalyst)
https://github.com/raszpl/386RC-16 ram board
https://github.com/raszpl/Zenith_ZBIOS Zenith Z-386 MFM-300 ZBIOS disassembly

Reply 29 of 29, by bracecomputerlab

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Running lspci command in Linux might settle the issue, but based on what I have seen, I believe the "NEC" chipset here was developed by Taiwan's RDC Semiconductor.(https://www.rdc.com.tw/en)
That being said, NEC likely offered standard cell based ASIC foundry service to RDC Semiconductor, and even did the packaging for them in-house.
The silk marking of this chip appears to look like an authentically NEC packaged IC, and historically, Japanese semiconductor companies did in-house packaging in Japan, at least until 1990s.
I think this rather odd Taiwanese company (RDC Semiconductor) emphasizing that the chip was manufactured by Japan's NEC has something to do with Japan being the only Asian country to achieve world class (i.e., Western standards) semiconductor technology at the time (1990s), so this firm wanted to advertise that.
Of course, the world has changed a lot in 30 years or so, and today it is perfectly normal for fabless semiconductor companies to use Taiwanese foundries like TSMC and UMC to get their chip to be manufactured on a contract basis.
Japan's relative importance in the electronics industry has significantly waned over the past three decades, and it is not a total coincidence that Japan now ranks mere 6th place in per capita GDP in Asia ($33K USD) versus Taiwan ranking 4th place ($37K USD).
The top three of the per capita GDP in Asia are all rather fake "city" states (Singapore, Hong Kong SAR, and Macau SAR).
Japan has also earned the dubious distinction of having no economic growth averaged over the past 35 years (this used to be called the "lost" decade, which then turned into two lost decades, three lost decades, etc., and people stopped using this phrase recently), despite having many world class corporations and highly educated populous.
Did the rise of Taiwanese foundries like TSMC and UMC and fabless semiconductor business model contributed to this dubious distinction of having 0% average economic over the past 35 years?
I will say the answer to be, yes, it did contribute to their lack of economic growth, at least on the margin.
That's my 2 cents.