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Reply 59540 of 59560, by Artex

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JAKra85 wrote on 2026-08-14, 14:10:

From this I remember what my ex-wife used to say.
"If you die in whatever, I will sell your collection 10$ a piece."

^^ this! So true - my wife continues to say the same or she'll "donate it all."

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Reply 59541 of 59560, by Repo Man11

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Artex wrote on 2026-08-14, 14:20:
JAKra85 wrote on 2026-08-14, 14:10:

From this I remember what my ex-wife used to say.
"If you die in whatever, I will sell your collection 10$ a piece."

^^ this! So true - my wife continues to say the same or she'll "donate it all."

A while back I scored a free box full of old games and parts which included an 8 megabyte Voodoo 2 and Halo CE and Doom 3 in the original boxes. He was a friendly guy, and I got the impression that this purge of this stuff from his garage was something that had been "encouraged" by his wife.

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Reply 59542 of 59560, by Dothan Burger

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JAKra85 wrote on 2026-08-14, 14:18:
Wow, 128MB 8500! (and not the DV). Very rare. Does it work? […]
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Dothan Burger wrote on 2026-08-11, 23:27:

I'm swooping up all the NOS built by ATi Radeons I can get my hands on. Saw this NOS All-In-Blunder 8500 for $69 (instant buy)

Wow, 128MB 8500! (and not the DV). Very rare.
Does it work?

I have one sealed / plastic wraped.
I don't have the hearth in opening it and I have just returned this week another one:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/147427170354

It looked brand new, it "smelled" brand new and... it was not working.
I needed the card not the box and accessories.

Well you scared me into testing the card, looks stone cold dead on a K8V. On a 440BX it posts, then displays the BIOS splash screen with the spinning Vectra logo and then black screen.

Update: The 440BX had a bad stick of ram. She works!

Reply 59543 of 59560, by JAKra85

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Sorry for the scare, at least you know it works!

I was not so lucky this time, I've tested mine on several boards and crosschecked with multiple cards.
Always that 1long 3short beep... dead.

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Reply 59544 of 59560, by pan069

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Artex wrote on 2026-08-14, 14:20:
JAKra85 wrote on 2026-08-14, 14:10:

From this I remember what my ex-wife used to say.
"If you die in whatever, I will sell your collection 10$ a piece."

^^ this! So true - my wife continues to say the same or she'll "donate it all."

My wife wouldn't bother trying to sell it, she would just dump it all in the trash. when that day arrives it will be a field day for some curbside trash picker. 😀

Reply 59545 of 59560, by Dothan Burger

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pan069 wrote on 2026-08-14, 20:24:
Artex wrote on 2026-08-14, 14:20:
JAKra85 wrote on 2026-08-14, 14:10:

From this I remember what my ex-wife used to say.
"If you die in whatever, I will sell your collection 10$ a piece."

^^ this! So true - my wife continues to say the same or she'll "donate it all."

My wife wouldn't bother trying to sell it, she would just dump it all in the trash. when that day arrives it will be a field day for some curbside trash picker. 😀

It's kind of a reminder to keep your stuff organized, labeled and stowed for easy drop off at a Goodwill or something. When you're dead all this stuff just complicates a loved ones already stressed out life. What would you do with her dresses and shoes if she passed? It's not like you're going to model her stuff on facebook marketplace.

Reply 59546 of 59560, by G-X

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zuldan wrote on 2026-08-14, 11:51:

Not me but looks like 5 lucky people picked up a 5950 Ultra’s in mint condition for $38 AUD. The deal of the century. Seller didn’t know what they were selling.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/336736420482

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Willing to bet ONE lucky person bought all 5 cards after triple checking the add and considering they might be hallucinating. Indeed a great score. Pays to search for part nr's / model numbers / etc instead of looking for "Nvidia 5950 ultra" for example.

When looking at the seller being "tech" and having sold 20k items of tech stuff not knowing or looking up what they were selling it would have made me really cautious but in that same time also probably cause me to miss the deal.

Reply 59547 of 59560, by pete8475

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G-X wrote on 2026-08-14, 21:48:
zuldan wrote on 2026-08-14, 11:51:

Not me but looks like 5 lucky people picked up a 5950 Ultra’s in mint condition for $38 AUD. The deal of the century. Seller didn’t know what they were selling.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/336736420482

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Willing to bet ONE lucky person bought all 5 cards after triple checking the add and considering they might be hallucinating. Indeed a great score. Pays to search for part nr's / model numbers / etc instead of looking for "Nvidia 5950 ultra" for example.

When looking at the seller being "tech" and having sold 20k items of tech stuff not knowing or looking up what they were selling it would have made me really cautious but in that same time also probably cause me to miss the deal.

HOLY!

I would have bought all 5 for sure.

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Reply 59548 of 59560, by Grem Five

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Dothan Burger wrote on 2026-08-14, 20:56:

It's not like you're going to model her stuff on facebook marketplace.

You dont know that.

Reply 59549 of 59560, by JAKra85

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G-X wrote on 2026-08-14, 21:48:
zuldan wrote on 2026-08-14, 11:51:

Pays to search for part nr's / model numbers / etc instead of looking for "Nvidia 5950 ultra" for example.

Exactly!
This is how I got my ultra-rare ATi Radeon 64MB. (with core and memory at 200MHz!)
The OEM was 166MHz, the retail was 183MHz and this rare part had factory 200MHz and was made in Canada. The other two in China.

I was searching for the PN of this card: PN 109-70700-20

Found it (google image search 😀 ) listed as a Radeon 9200:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/204474042693

The PN and manufacture date of chips did not lie.
My best guess is that someone in around 2002 bought a Radeon 9200 and upgraded the original Radeon 64MB and put this old card in the new box.

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Reply 59550 of 59560, by BitWrangler

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Grem Five wrote on 2026-08-14, 22:37:
Dothan Burger wrote on 2026-08-14, 20:56:

It's not like you're going to model her stuff on facebook marketplace.

You dont know that.

I probably ain't. It's not like going "This slightly faded blouse from the Target 2018 fall collection, hangs well and accentuates the feminine figure" is gonna get more than the buck or two I might get holding a yard sale. I think the highest couture she has got is maybe kate spade sweatpants from costco, a lululemon top and a roots sweater.... so I'm probably putting $10 on those. 🤣 ... ... ... come to think of it, if we did a top 20 pieces wardrobe valuation, mine might win, never bought any of these new, but have like couple of Van Heusen shirts, couple of Ralph Lauren, couple of Calvin Klein, some American Eagle, Eddie Bauer. I mean it's mass market crap really, but it's got name recognition.

I am having a hard time thinking of anything she has that is worth much really, there's a handful of tchotchkes that got a little collectible, so $30 a piece, then maybe there's some 1st edition hardcovers in authors she followed and bought on release. I should ask her though, but I suspect she will want things given to family who also are "into" those things.

Anyway, gotta get my shit more sorted, reduced, cataloged and labelled and have a plan. Just found a local eBay commission agent.

shoes

🤣 🤣 🤣 she has like 20 pairs of shoes, but again, nothing noteworthy, just well worn store brands, I just realised it is hilarious that I might beat the entire value with one pair I have.... got a brand new pair of UK forces issue gulf war desert boots put away for a rainy day, they'd probably fetch $150 or so 🤣

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Reply 59551 of 59560, by fosterwj03

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I ordered this MSI MS-6309 Socket 370 motherboard (I think based on the seller’s photo) from eBay earlier this week for $60 US shipped. The seller listed it as an Asus CUV4X-E, but the board in the photo clearly isn’t one. Oddly, the box in the listing is for a CUV4X-V and the item description matches the box labeling. I’m hoping that I received the motherboard shown, but I honestly wouldn’t mind a CUV4X-V or a CUV4X-E either.

Like a previous poster, I’m excited to have a motherboard with a universal AGP slot and, hopefully, an ISA slot for a sort of in-betweener technology platform. I didn’t buy it just for that, though. I felt a bit nostalgic for the Socket 370 board I bought in the year 2000, an Epox EP-3VCA. I gave that board away when I upgraded my system to a Tualatin Celeron in 2002 (I was on a big hardware re-use kick back then), so I wanted something similar for my collection again.

Back in the day, I paired my 3VCA with a Coppermine Pentium III at 550 MHz. I figured I could do better than that these days. I also purchased a Pentium III 1GHz (Coppermine-T) for $34 US shipped and a NOS Cooler Master Socket 370 cooler for $14 US shipped. A P3 at 1 GHz kind of splits the difference in performance between the Coppermine and the Tualatin chips I used back in the day.

Reply 59552 of 59560, by mmx_91

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fosterwj03 wrote on 2026-08-15, 16:05:

I ordered this MSI MS-6309 Socket 370 motherboard (I think based on the seller’s photo) from eBay earlier this week for $60 US shipped. The seller listed it as an Asus CUV4X-E, but the board in the photo clearly isn’t one. Oddly, the box in the listing is for a CUV4X-V and the item description matches the box labeling. I’m hoping that I received the motherboard shown, but I honestly wouldn’t mind a CUV4X-V or a CUV4X-E either.

Like a previous poster, I’m excited to have a motherboard with a universal AGP slot and, hopefully, an ISA slot for a sort of in-betweener technology platform. I didn’t buy it just for that, though. I felt a bit nostalgic for the Socket 370 board I bought in the year 2000, an Epox EP-3VCA. I gave that board away when I upgraded my system to a Tualatin Celeron in 2002 (I was on a big hardware re-use kick back then), so I wanted something similar for my collection again.

Back in the day, I paired my 3VCA with a Coppermine Pentium III at 550 MHz. I figured I could do better than that these days. I also purchased a Pentium III 1GHz (Coppermine-T) for $34 US shipped and a NOS Cooler Master Socket 370 cooler for $14 US shipped. A P3 at 1 GHz kind of splits the difference in performance between the Coppermine and the Tualatin chips I used back in the day.

Really solid board. It's currently my test board to validate all kinds of ISA, PCI and AGP cards.

Reply 59553 of 59560, by fosterwj03

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mmx_91 wrote on 2026-08-15, 17:13:
fosterwj03 wrote on 2026-08-15, 16:05:

I ordered this MSI MS-6309 Socket 370 motherboard (I think based on the seller’s photo) from eBay earlier this week for $60 US shipped. The seller listed it as an Asus CUV4X-E, but the board in the photo clearly isn’t one. Oddly, the box in the listing is for a CUV4X-V and the item description matches the box labeling. I’m hoping that I received the motherboard shown, but I honestly wouldn’t mind a CUV4X-V or a CUV4X-E either.

Like a previous poster, I’m excited to have a motherboard with a universal AGP slot and, hopefully, an ISA slot for a sort of in-betweener technology platform. I didn’t buy it just for that, though. I felt a bit nostalgic for the Socket 370 board I bought in the year 2000, an Epox EP-3VCA. I gave that board away when I upgraded my system to a Tualatin Celeron in 2002 (I was on a big hardware re-use kick back then), so I wanted something similar for my collection again.

Back in the day, I paired my 3VCA with a Coppermine Pentium III at 550 MHz. I figured I could do better than that these days. I also purchased a Pentium III 1GHz (Coppermine-T) for $34 US shipped and a NOS Cooler Master Socket 370 cooler for $14 US shipped. A P3 at 1 GHz kind of splits the difference in performance between the Coppermine and the Tualatin chips I used back in the day.

Really solid board. It's currently my test board to validate all kinds of ISA, PCI and AGP cards.

Excellent!

Reply 59554 of 59560, by PC@LIVE

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I bought a batch of 4 old motherboards, three I managed to locate them, one I didn't!
The three should be, a Slot1 QDI BrillianX IS, an ECS K7VZA 1.0 (PCCHIPS M807), then an MSI MS-6178E (WH5), at least on TRW there are these.
The fourth I can't figure out what it is, the images unfortunately are not the best, you can't understand either the manufacturer or the model (socket?), however in some there are CPUs, obviously nothing was specified in the info about the cards for sale.
I will be able to learn more, as soon as they arrive, and then I should start doing some tests to see which ones work, or which ones require repairs.

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Reply 59555 of 59560, by BitWrangler

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PC@LIVE wrote on Yesterday, 12:13:
I bought a batch of 4 old motherboards, three I managed to locate them, one I didn't! The three should be, a Slot1 QDI BrillianX […]
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I bought a batch of 4 old motherboards, three I managed to locate them, one I didn't!
The three should be, a Slot1 QDI BrillianX IS, an ECS K7VZA 1.0 (PCCHIPS M807), then an MSI MS-6178E (WH5), at least on TRW there are these.
The fourth I can't figure out what it is, the images unfortunately are not the best, you can't understand either the manufacturer or the model (socket?), however in some there are CPUs, obviously nothing was specified in the info about the cards for sale.
I will be able to learn more, as soon as they arrive, and then I should start doing some tests to see which ones work, or which ones require repairs.

This one is looking probable...
https://theretroweb.com/motherboards/s/biostar-m6sba

Edit: Hungarian store listing of one for picture reference, https://a-ztech.hu/termek/biostar-m6sba-ver-1 … tlap-io-shield/ I doubt it has a 440BX as claimed there though, wouldn't have the SiS southbridge.

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Reply 59556 of 59560, by myne

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One glance and it's a pcchips sis "bxcel" abomination.
If it works it'll be good for dos probably.

I'll check you'll link now

The biostar looks like a winner tbh.

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Reply 59557 of 59560, by DaveDDS

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myne wrote on Yesterday, 14:20:

One glance and it's a pcchips sis "bxcel" abomination.
If it works it'll be good for dos probably.

Hey, whatever you do - don't get rid if it!

We old "DOSheads" really like boards like that - IT HAS AN ISA SLOT!

Harder and harder to find - DOS was never designed for PCI - if the BIOS sets things up reasonable and you have the right drivers - some PCI can work but it's always hit-or-miss.

Back in the day I developed a lot of special DOS applications that played sound
eg: I used to wire my front yard with lighted pumpkins - two BIG ones with LED "eyes" and speakers in the.
I wrote code which played various spooky sounds, and often the two big pumpkins would do bad Halloween Q&A to each other, Bats on wires would move, skeletons would jiggle etc.
All the audio stuff was done with the old SoundBlaster DOS tools, including the pumpkins talking to each other ("SBTALKER", "SAY") - these all worked with the original SoundBlasters (SB, SBpro, SB16) - control of lignts, motors etc. was done using bits driven on the parallel port.
AFAIK The SB, SBpro and SB16 were only ISA - I've never seen a PCI one.
I was able to make it "mostly" work on DosBox (which emulates an SB) but it has no way of directly passing through simple writes to the parallel port, so no ability to control the various devices.
For years I kept a DOS machine configured to run it (With an SBpro in a ISA slot) - but eventually stopped putting it out.

And I still kinda "hoard" board with ISA slots!

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Reply 59558 of 59560, by DaveDDS

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So, being somewhat of a hoarded of anything with ISA slots, I grabbed this P2 board when it it was offered here (Vogons):

Old Stuff for free

Not wanting to build YASOAB ("Yet Another System On A Board)

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I wanted a case - looking at local shops, there was little available for under about $150, and what is shown was "sold out".

So I decided the look on a local marketplace - some pretty pricey stuff there as well, but I found this Antec case for $5!
just a bars case, but seems pretty nice - and I had a decent little Antec PSU in my "stash"- so everything matches!
(yeah, I forgot to put the lower drive carrier back in for the pic - but I do have it)

Not too bad at all ... a complete tested/working P2 (Intel board) for $5! (I did have to add an AGP Rage128 - also from my "stash")

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Reply 59559 of 59560, by Ozzuneoj

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DaveDDS wrote on Yesterday, 22:00:
So, being somewhat of a hoarded of anything with ISA slots, I grabbed this P2 board when it it was offered here (Vogons): […]
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So, being somewhat of a hoarded of anything with ISA slots, I grabbed this P2 board when it it was offered here (Vogons):

Old Stuff for free

Not wanting to build YASOAB ("Yet Another System On A Board)

Re: Windows 95 on a Breadboard

I wanted a case - looking at local shops, there was little available for under about $150, and what is shown was "sold out".

So I decided the look on a local marketplace - some pretty pricey stuff there as well, but I found this Antec case for $5!
just a bars case, but seems pretty nice - and I had a decent little Antec PSU in my "stash"- so everything matches!
(yeah, I forgot to put the lower drive carrier back in for the pic - but I do have it)

Not too bad at all ... a complete tested/working P2 (Intel board) for $5! (I did have to add an AGP Rage128 - also from my "stash")

Nice setup! And finding that case for $5 is awesome!

If you haven't already, make sure to crack open that PSU and check for swollen\leaky caps. That is definitely from the cap plague era and even quality PSUs were often built with caps that became an issue later on.

(BTW, I still have the box for an Antec TruePower 430W I bought back in the early 2000s... I have kept floppy drives in it for 20+ years! 🤣 )

Now for some blitting from the back buffer.