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Anyone here has MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR? Any modded BIOSes for that board or any review?

The Sandman wrote on 2026-08-18, 16:21:

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nice! P1!

SlowA wrote on 2026-08-18, 17:28:

Anyone here has MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR? Any modded BIOSes for that board or any review?

I had this board some time ago. It was nice but my board it wasn't a great overclocker. Afaik the BIOS was limited to 233MHz FSB. It did that clock 3D stable though.
There should be a mod BIOS for it.

The Sandman wrote on 2026-08-18, 16:21:

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WOW!!!!

@supercordo
Something went wrong with the 1M highscore list. Seems you placed Sandmans score as 1st, but there's still digitalbaths name next to it.

SlowA wrote on 2026-08-18, 17:28:

Anyone here has MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR? Any modded BIOSes for that board or any review?

Try this:
https://biosbude.de/%21%20BIOS%20VAULT/MSI/K7 … SR/digitalbath/

I have two MSI K7N2 Delta-L (the red PCB one with the old SB, not Delta2). The better one topped out at around 240-245Mhz FSB and the other maybe 235-240. My boards got a very old production week (older than week10 of 2003), so that was expected. In general the better chipset weeks are mid-2003 to mid-2004.

zuldan wrote on 2026-08-17, 10:03:

I finally made a pair of 256MB BH-5 sticks, installed them in my water cooled NF7-S 2.0 (vcore at 2.0v) running vram at 3.2v via a POT. To my horror, I still cannot go past 235 FSB, no matter what multiplier I run. Windows fails to load. Could I just have bad luck with the chipset on this board?

Which bios, is it modded? Have you tried other types of Ram? Are you sure the BH-5 are "good"? Tried another cpu (which one are you using)?

Tzk wrote on 2026-08-19, 05:07:

@supercordo Something went wrong with the 1M highscore list. Seems you placed Sandmans score as 1st, but there's still digitalba […]
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@supercordo
Something went wrong with the 1M highscore list. Seems you placed Sandmans score as 1st, but there's still digitalbaths name next to it.

SlowA wrote on 2026-08-18, 17:28:

Anyone here has MSI K7N2 Delta ILSR? Any modded BIOSes for that board or any review?

Try this:
https://biosbude.de/%21%20BIOS%20VAULT/MSI/K7 … SR/digitalbath/

I have two MSI K7N2 Delta-L (the red PCB one with the old SB, not Delta2). The better one topped out at around 240-245Mhz FSB and the other maybe 235-240. My boards got a very old production week (older than week10 of 2003), so that was expected. In general the better chipset weeks are mid-2003 to mid-2004.

zuldan wrote on 2026-08-17, 10:03:

I finally made a pair of 256MB BH-5 sticks, installed them in my water cooled NF7-S 2.0 (vcore at 2.0v) running vram at 3.2v via a POT. To my horror, I still cannot go past 235 FSB, no matter what multiplier I run. Windows fails to load. Could I just have bad luck with the chipset on this board?

Which bios, is it modded? Have you tried other types of Ram? Are you sure the BH-5 are "good"? Tried another cpu (which one are you using)?

Yup, I sure did. I'll fix it tomorrow. Thanks.

There all fixed!!!!

_digitalbath wrote on 2026-08-17, 16:59:

measure please the VTT voltage for the dimms. It should follow the rule 1/2 of the Vdimm voltage. Afaik some of the NF7 board (r […]
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measure please the VTT voltage for the dimms. It should follow the rule 1/2 of the Vdimm voltage. Afaik some of the NF7 board (revisons) won't follow the 1/2 rule if you do a voltmod. In your case it should be somewhere at 1.6v.
The Kyocera caps may not necessary be a problem. I would check other parts first.
My NF7 boards are not great overclockers, but they manage to clock higher then that. I would guess somewhere >245MHz should be possible.

Did you check the dram subtimings? Maybe worth to check slower subtimings?

I’ll check the VTT voltage and subtimings this weekend. Glad to know the caps shouldn’t be a problem at this stage.

Tzk wrote on 2026-08-19, 05:07:

Which bios, is it modded? Have you tried other types of Ram? Are you sure the BH-5 are "good"? Tried another cpu (which one are you using)?

I’m using D26 Manta Rays XT with CPC on. Should I be using something else? I’ve tried other types of ram but still cannot get past 235. I’m using a XP-M 2800 AXMJ2800FHQ4C (with “I” stepping). I have an unlocked XP 3200 (03 week 24) and a XP-M 2400 I could try?

zuldan wrote on 2026-08-20, 11:12:

I’m using D26 Manta Rays XT with CPC on. Should I be using something else? I’ve tried other types of ram but still cannot get past 235. I’m using a XP-M 2800 AXMJ2800FHQ4C (with “I” stepping). I have an unlocked XP 3200 (03 week 24) and a XP-M 2400 I could try?

D26 Mantarays XT is a good starting point. Usually a good chipset manages to pass 235MHz with this bios. You can try either a Merlin bios (Taipan 0.3 ED) or - my preferred option - a bios by digitalbath (ED or ED55). Make sure to keep the Cpu Interface option enabled (aggressive / on), else the board will fall back to slow default romsips which will limit your OC. This does also apply to D26 Mantarays XT, iirc it didn't clock well with interface off.

Also: have you tried using a bit higher chipset voltage? To pass >235Mhz 1.7V might be needed. Please don't just raise the Vdd voltage to the max, as some boards and chipsets seem to counterscale past some point. So try 1.7V first before pumping lots of volts through the chipset.

NF7(-S) v2.0 Merlin bios files: https://biosbude.de/%21%20BIOS%20VAULT/Abit/N … %20v2.0/merlin/
NF7(-S) v2.0 digitalbath bios files: https://biosbude.de/%21%20BIOS%20VAULT/Abit/N … .0/digitalbath/

In general i'd try higher FSB at low vcore and low multiplier first. Usually a good approach ist to try multi 8 or 9 and push for 250MHz. Any cpu without superlock should work for this, as 250x9 is just 2250Mhz. So 1.7V Vcore should be enough to get that stable. Mind thatt multi 10x and 10.5x will limit your fsb OC compared to 8 and 9. Also stay away from half multis (8.5x 9.5x) for your initial testing.

I’m using D26 Manta Rays XT with CPC on. Should I be using something else? I’ve tried other types of ram but still cannot get past 235. I’m using a XP-M 2800 AXMJ2800FHQ4C (with “I” stepping). I have an unlocked XP 3200 (03 week 24) and a XP-M 2400 I could try?

You could try another CPU, but I don't think it is a problem. Have you tried a single channel or a 256 MB stick?

Tzk wrote on 2026-08-22, 05:27:

D26 Mantarays XT is a good starting point. Usually a good chipset manages to pass 235MHz with this bios. You can try either a Merlin bios (Taipan 0.3 ED) or - my preferred option - a bios by digitalbath (ED or ED55). Make sure to keep the Cpu Interface option enabled (aggressive / on), else the board will fall back to slow default romsips which will limit your OC. This does also apply to D26 Mantarays XT, iirc it didn't clock well with interface off.

Be careful with that! Tictac only used the modded romsips in his Mantarays XT BIOS when "CPU Interface" is set to Disabled. If you enable it, the BIOS reverts to the default Nvidia romsips. This is unique, as most other custom BIOSes actually require you to keep the "CPU Interface" option Enabled.

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Mantarays XT runs well because it shares the same modded romsips as the 619XT BIOSes. As a side note, every known modded romsip actually traces its roots back to the DFI NF2 Ultra B Beta BIOS releases.

Merlin ED romsip from DFI 200MHz beta von 12-31-2003
Infrared's ED55 romsip from DFI beta 200MHz 05-05-2004
Mantarays XT / 619XT from DFI beta 200MHz 01-31-2004
Hellfire, Rev.2 from DFI beta 200MHz 12-10-2003
Hellfire, Rev. 3 from DFI beta 200MHz 12-31-2003

My custom BIOS versions offer the option to load one of the Beta romsips directly via a built-in preset.

Less talking more benchmarks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your mom said so.

Wow, what a coinsidence. We were just competing here at Poland overclocking Socket A, but we narrowed down our rules to just Radeon 9800 and its derivatives. Friend of mine hit ~22700 with his Medion Radeon 9800XXL - hope he will share his results 😀

Mine weren't so impressive, so I'll just share my result from 2 years ago + the one from our R9800Pro competition. Not so great of the result given the frequency, but the CPU did quite well.

Showing some pics of the setup which was used to push the frequency / voltage so high. The 12cm fan was pulling -5*C air @ 5000RPM.

Can you help decipher the second DDR stick (single sided)? Double sided is CH-5

Photo is too blurred for me to read the markings.

I can't compete with water and freezing air. Is there a hidden category for low energy Durons?

forteller wrote on 2026-08-24, 20:03:

Wow, what a coinsidence. We were just competing here at Poland overclocking Socket A, but we narrowed down our rules to just Radeon 9800 and its derivatives. Friend of mine hit ~22700 with his Medion Radeon 9800XXL - hope he will share his results 😀

Mine weren't so impressive, so I'll just share my result from 2 years ago + the one from our R9800Pro competition. Not so great of the result given the frequency, but the CPU did quite well.

Showing some pics of the setup which was used to push the frequency / voltage so high. The 12cm fan was pulling -5*C air @ 5000RPM.

Welcome! Nice CPU clock.

forteller wrote on 2026-08-24, 20:03:

Wow, what a coinsidence. We were just competing here at Poland overclocking Socket A, but we narrowed down our rules to just Radeon 9800 and its derivatives. Friend of mine hit ~22700 with his Medion Radeon 9800XXL - hope he will share his results 😀

Mine weren't so impressive, so I'll just share my result from 2 years ago + the one from our R9800Pro competition. Not so great of the result given the frequency, but the CPU did quite well.

Showing some pics of the setup which was used to push the frequency / voltage so high. The 12cm fan was pulling -5*C air @ 5000RPM.

nice! I like the 9800XXL cards.

SlowA wrote on 2026-08-25, 15:21:

Can you help decipher the second DDR stick (single sided)? Double sided is CH-5

My best guess is Promos or something else. I doubt it is a Winbond chip. Promos also had chips with circles like Winbond. The difference are the metal dots on the side of the chips are real dots, where Winbond type chips have a metal bar.
The photos have a low resolution. It is hard to guess.

classic_cola wrote on 2026-06-04, 22:54:

Since nobody else has submitted a Duron Applebred score, does this mean if I participate I'll be #1 by default? 😁

So I'm not the only one eyeing that category 😉

I was actually considering Spitfire. The trouble is a good system would pair those CPUs released in 2000 with a 3dfx released in 2000 on Windows 98, whereas 3DMark2001SE released in 2002 to test their entirely absent shader models. So in my back of an envelope architectural design, I was stumped on which graphics card driver stack would actually complete the exam question without suffocating the CPU and producing a slideshow. Maybe a GeForce3 on early Detonator, but I suspect that just provides the baseline.

The other trouble is I personally don't like Win98.

My best guess is Promos or something else. I doubt it is a Winbond chip. Promos also had chips with circles like Winbond. The difference are the metal dots on the side of the chips are real dots, where Winbond type chips have a metal bar.
The photos have a low resolution. It is hard to guess.

You are right, it is Promos, similar to Winbond physically, but it isn't one.
Do you know what this one is: https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/infine … 604027-225-4937

SlowA wrote on 2026-08-27, 08:21:

Do you know what this one is: https://www.kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/infine … 604027-225-4937

Highly probable Winbond CH type chips. I have two sticks with the same labled chips. They boot with CL3 and 2-2-2-5 @200MHz. I did no further test though.