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First post, by The_Retro_Jimmy_Club

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Please do see the video of it not working hear
https://streamable.com/eqnj2g
It clicks once and that is it, no more! Yes the disks do work

Dose anyone know what is wrong with it?

Do I...
1. repair it?
2. use it for parts later on?
3. Bin it?

Thanks

Reply 1 of 15, by Nemo1985

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Why do you set up multiple accounts and keep posting political and Epstein stuff?

I believe you are also these two accounts:

ModernMan
Im from Windows

Stop trolling

Reply 2 of 15, by keenmaster486

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Unfortunately, I don't think this is a troll. Or if it is, it's someone with the driest, most sardonic sense of humor I've ever encountered.

World's foremost 486 enjoyer.

Reply 3 of 15, by DaveDDS

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Can't really tell much from your video ... the most important questions are:

1) Does it show access (light when you try and read it)?
2) Does it spin when accessed?
3) Does it seek (normally you can hear a "seek test" bring performed by BIOS) at startup?

I would recommend using ImageDisk to evaluate exactly what does and doesn't work with the drive

IMD has an A)lignment/test function which will let you specifically test low level functions, and may report more useful information than "It doesn't work"

IMD also accessed the FDC hardware directly, meaning that it doesn't know about or care how the drive is configured in BIOS and whatever OS you are using.

But... that also means it has to run under DOS (which does not prevent directly accessing hardware )

If you have DOS or Win9x on the system, great you can run IMD directly or in "Resstart in DOS mode"

If you have something else, I do have a pretty capable IMD boot floppy image on the site ("Daves Old Computers")
Assuming you have a second drive available, I'd make the bad one B: and setup a working drive as A: then boot the IMD disk, and perform A)lingnment/test on drive B:

https://dunfield.themindfactory.com ; "Daves Old Computers" ; SW dev addict best known:
ImageDisk: rd/wr ANY floppy PChw can ; Micro-C: compiler for DOS+ManySmallCPU ; DDLINK: simple/small filetransfer(w/o netSW)via Lan/Lpt/Com

Reply 4 of 15, by The_Retro_Jimmy_Club

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DaveDDS wrote on 2026-08-26, 17:49:

1) Does it show access (light when you try and read it)?
2) Does it spin when accessed?
3) Does it seek (normally you can hear a "seek test" bring performed by BIOS) at startup?

1. yes the light comes on
2. i dont know
3. dont know

DaveDDS wrote on 2026-08-26, 17:49:
I would recommend using ImageDisk to evaluate exactly what does and doesn't work with the drive […]
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I would recommend using ImageDisk to evaluate exactly what does and doesn't work with the drive

IMD has an A)lignment/test function which will let you specifically test low level functions, and may report more useful information than "It doesn't work"

IMD also accessed the FDC hardware directly, meaning that it doesn't know about or care how the drive is configured in BIOS and whatever OS you are using.

But... that also means it has to run under DOS (which does not prevent directly accessing hardware )

If you have DOS or Win9x on the system, great you can run IMD directly or in "Resstart in DOS mode"

If you have something else, I do have a pretty capable IMD boot floppy image on the site ("Daves Old Computers")
Assuming you have a second drive available, I'd make the bad one B: and setup a working drive as A: then boot the IMD disk, and perform A)lingnment/test on drive B:

So i need image disk/ IMD to test and it on your web site right?

Nemo1985 wrote on 2026-08-26, 17:45:

Why do you set up multiple accounts

because they keep taking them down!

Reply 5 of 15, by DaveDDS

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The_Retro_Jimmy_Club wrote on 2026-08-26, 21:44:
1. yes the light comes on 2. i dont know 3. dont know […]
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DaveDDS wrote on 2026-08-26, 17:49:

1) Does it show access (light when you try and read it)?
2) Does it spin when accessed?
3) Does it seek (normally you can hear a "seek test" bring performed by BIOS) at startup?

1. yes the light comes on
2. i dont know
3. dont know

Listen carefully with a diskette in the drive, when you access it, you can usually hear the diskette spinning as access light comes on.

Also, listen to the drive when the system is starting ,BIOS will usually perform a basic drive test before it launches the OS,
This usually includes a seek test and you will hear the drive seek out and back in.
(Some BIOS have an option to enable/disable floppy seek at boot - If yours does, make sure the floppy seek at boot is enabled)

If you can't hear this activity, try popping the drive cover off. You should be able to see the diskette spin
through the head slot, and you can see the head move back and forth during a seek.

The official place to get ImageDisk is on my "Daves Old Computers" site, near the bottom of the main page you will find: Download Software/Images
Within that page you will find ImageDisk as well as the bootable floppy containing ImageDisk.

https://dunfield.themindfactory.com ; "Daves Old Computers" ; SW dev addict best known:
ImageDisk: rd/wr ANY floppy PChw can ; Micro-C: compiler for DOS+ManySmallCPU ; DDLINK: simple/small filetransfer(w/o netSW)via Lan/Lpt/Com

Reply 6 of 15, by DaveDDS

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Also, the most common problem with older diskette drive is dirt/corruption in the head(s).

To "fix" this you will need to clean the head - the best way to do this is to disassemble the drive enough to get direct access to the heads (which you can clean with an alcohol swab).
This is fairly tricky to do on a 3.5" drive, so most people use "cleaning disks".

if you don't already have one, get one - if you can't locate one to get, I can provide some details on making one but it is very tricky/hard to do on a
3.5" drive.

If you can get one, I recommend ImageDIsks "C)lean head" function it will "scrub" the heads back and forth over the cleaning disk which works much better than the typical method of "dir" which only positions the heads to track-0.

Basically, the cleaning disk will contain softer/porus media which can absorb a few drops of alcohol - Perform ImageDisk "C)lean head" , when prompted put a few drops on alcohol on the cleaning media (some cleaning disks have a space to access and do this, but you can also do it through the head slot) - Then put the diskette into the drive and hit RETURN to execute a clean!

https://dunfield.themindfactory.com ; "Daves Old Computers" ; SW dev addict best known:
ImageDisk: rd/wr ANY floppy PChw can ; Micro-C: compiler for DOS+ManySmallCPU ; DDLINK: simple/small filetransfer(w/o netSW)via Lan/Lpt/Com

Reply 7 of 15, by The_Retro_Jimmy_Club

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DaveDDS wrote on 2026-08-27, 01:15:

Listen carefully with a diskette in the drive, when you access it, you can usually hear the diskette spinning as access light comes on.

Its just to hard to tell! I mean when I put my ear right next to it I can hear something going on in there after it has clicked twice, but i dont know what it is

DaveDDS wrote on 2026-08-27, 01:15:

Also, listen to the drive when the system is starting ,BIOS will usually perform a basic drive test before it launches the OS,
This usually includes a seek test and you will hear the drive seek out and back in.
(Some BIOS have an option to enable/disable floppy seek at boot - If yours does, make sure the floppy seek at boot is enabled)

So I need to go into the BIOS to do that right?

DaveDDS wrote on 2026-08-27, 01:15:

If you can't hear this activity, try popping the drive cover off. You should be able to see the diskette spin
through the head slot, and you can see the head move back and forth during a seek.

Have done that and it would appear that it dose spin as I put my finger on it and could feel movement. Though to make sure I could use tip-x but that would nacker the disk right

DaveDDS wrote on 2026-08-27, 01:15:

The official place to get ImageDisk is on my "Daves Old Computers" site, near the bottom of the main page you will find: Download Software/Images
Within that page you will find ImageDisk as well as the bootable floppy containing ImageDisk.

Is it IMDSK206.EXE under the Third party stuff:?

Thanks

Reply 8 of 15, by DaveDDS

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The_Retro_Jimmy_Club wrote on 2026-08-27, 05:07:
DaveDDS wrote on 2026-08-27, 01:15:

Also, listen to the drive when the system is starting ,BIOS will usually perform a basic drive test before it launches the OS,
This usually includes a seek test and you will hear the drive seek out and back in.
(Some BIOS have an option to enable/disable floppy seek at boot - If yours does, make sure the floppy seek at boot is enabled)

So I need to go into the BIOS to do that right?

Yes, but not all BIOS had the option to enable/disable floppy seek at startup. You just should check if it does and make sure the floppy will seek at startup.
and honestly, a better way to verify seeking is IMDs "A)lign/test" function where you can seek at will,

Have done that and it would appear that it dose spin as I put my finger on it and could feel movement. Though to make sure I could use tip-x but that would nacker the disk right

Never a good idea to put anything (even your finger) up against media. But you might have to "knacker" a disk to be sure.
Depending on the drive you might be able to see the upper "center clamp" - this will spin with the media.

Is it IMDSK206.EXE under the Third party stuff:?

NO! - IRC IMDISK is a RamDisk

You need tp go to "Download software/images" near the bottom of the main page, and in there you will see "ImageDisk 1.20" - the actual file it will download is: IMD120.ZIP

https://dunfield.themindfactory.com ; "Daves Old Computers" ; SW dev addict best known:
ImageDisk: rd/wr ANY floppy PChw can ; Micro-C: compiler for DOS+ManySmallCPU ; DDLINK: simple/small filetransfer(w/o netSW)via Lan/Lpt/Com

Reply 9 of 15, by The_Retro_Jimmy_Club

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DaveDDS wrote on 2026-08-27, 09:08:

Yes, but not all BIOS had the option to enable/disable floppy seek at startup. You just should check if it does and make sure the floppy will seek at startup.
and honestly, a better way to verify seeking is IMDs "A)lign/test" function where you can seek at will,

Yes BIOS is set to floppy as first boot and No the disks wont boot up from start up […]
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Yes BIOS is set to floppy as first boot and No the disks wont boot up from start up

DaveDDS wrote on 2026-08-27, 09:08:

You need tp go to "Download software/images" near the bottom of the main page, and in there you will see "ImageDisk 1.20" - the actual file it will download is: IMD120.ZIP

I have done an entire search of that page and nothing is showing for it!
https://dunfield.themindfactory.com/dnld.htm
Is this the right page please?

Reply 10 of 15, by DaveDDS

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The_Retro_Jimmy_Club wrote on 2026-08-27, 10:33:

I have done an entire search of that page and nothing is showing for it!
https://dunfield.themindfactory.com/dnld.htm
Is this the right page please?

You are on the wrong site! - that's my personal page.

To find the "Daves Old Computers" site, do a google search for "Daves Old Computers"

There's also a link to "Daves Old Computers" near the bottom of my personal page.

Either way, you should arrive at: http://dunfield.classiccmp.org

https://dunfield.themindfactory.com ; "Daves Old Computers" ; SW dev addict best known:
ImageDisk: rd/wr ANY floppy PChw can ; Micro-C: compiler for DOS+ManySmallCPU ; DDLINK: simple/small filetransfer(w/o netSW)via Lan/Lpt/Com

Reply 11 of 15, by The_Retro_Jimmy_Club

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DaveDDS wrote on 2026-08-27, 13:40:
You are on the wrong site! - that's my personal page. […]
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The_Retro_Jimmy_Club wrote on 2026-08-27, 10:33:

I have done an entire search of that page and nothing is showing for it!
https://dunfield.themindfactory.com/dnld.htm
Is this the right page please?

You are on the wrong site! - that's my personal page.

To find the "Daves Old Computers" site, do a google search for "Daves Old Computers"

There's also a link to "Daves Old Computers" near the bottom of my personal page.

Either way, you should arrive at: http://dunfield.classiccmp.org

OK it now looks like the site has blocked me from adding images
Am I now at the right place?
https://ibb.co/Qjqtqtv7

Reply 12 of 15, by DaveDDS

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Yes, that is the ImageDisk startuo screen.

Two things to note:

You MUST run ImageDisk in pure native DOS - NOT under the command prompt of any newer "non-DOS" operating system. If it's Win9x, you can "restart in DOS mode", for any other OS (Winblows, Linux etc.) you'll have to make the ImageDisk boot floppy and boot it.

Also know that working with and manipulating a floppy drive at the low-levels that ImageDisk does is NOT easy, and you really have to understand what you are doing.
You MUST read the ImageDisk documentation, this is also why ImageDisk starts within its main help menu - don't just hit ESC to exit help, refer to it as needed while you figure out what you are doing!

https://dunfield.themindfactory.com ; "Daves Old Computers" ; SW dev addict best known:
ImageDisk: rd/wr ANY floppy PChw can ; Micro-C: compiler for DOS+ManySmallCPU ; DDLINK: simple/small filetransfer(w/o netSW)via Lan/Lpt/Com

Reply 13 of 15, by The_Retro_Jimmy_Club

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DaveDDS wrote on 2026-08-27, 20:32:
Yes, that is the ImageDisk startuo screen. […]
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Yes, that is the ImageDisk startuo screen.

Two things to note:

You MUST run ImageDisk in pure native DOS - NOT under the command prompt of any newer "non-DOS" operating system. If it's Win9x, you can "restart in DOS mode", for any other OS (Winblows, Linux etc.) you'll have to make the ImageDisk boot floppy and boot it.

Also know that working with and manipulating a floppy drive at the low-levels that ImageDisk does is NOT easy, and you really have to understand what you are doing.
You MUST read the ImageDisk documentation, this is also why ImageDisk starts within its main help menu - don't just hit ESC to exit help, refer to it as needed while you figure out what you are doing!

The program is for transferring disk data. How is it going to tell me what is wrong with
my floppy drive?

While on the subject of programs, you dont know where I can get a USB installer for
DOS by any chance? (so it can read my USB sound card and memory sticks)

Thanks

Reply 14 of 15, by DaveDDS

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The_Retro_Jimmy_Club wrote on 2026-08-28, 12:30:

The program is for transferring disk data. How is it going to tell me what is wrong with
my floppy drive?

Yes, ImageDisks main purpose is in archiving/preserving/recreating any floppy diskette the PC FDC hardware is capable of reading/writing.

But it was specifically created to assist in the preservation of "old" media for very classic systems. And being oriented toward the preservation and restoration of these old systems, it does much more than just "read and write". Specifically of interest to you, is that it has the ability to help test, align and otherwise maintain the various floppy drives which were used on such systems.

While on the subject of programs, you dont know where I can get a USB installer for
DOS by any chance? (so it can read my USB sound card and memory sticks)

USB support in DOS is very limited, and I doubt you'll get support for a "USB sound card" unless the maker of that card provides DOS drivers (unless it's very old - unlikely these days)

The ImageDisk bootable floppy I mentioned earlier does have support for USB mass storage. I've not actually looked at it in years (I almost always transfer images over network with DDLINK now), and I do recall it being somewhat temperamental with various hardware back in the day - good luck!

https://dunfield.themindfactory.com ; "Daves Old Computers" ; SW dev addict best known:
ImageDisk: rd/wr ANY floppy PChw can ; Micro-C: compiler for DOS+ManySmallCPU ; DDLINK: simple/small filetransfer(w/o netSW)via Lan/Lpt/Com

Reply 15 of 15, by The_Retro_Jimmy_Club

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DaveDDS wrote on 2026-08-28, 14:01:
Yes, ImageDisks main purpose is in archiving/preserving/recreating any floppy diskette the PC FDC hardware is capable of reading […]
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The_Retro_Jimmy_Club wrote on 2026-08-28, 12:30:

The program is for transferring disk data. How is it going to tell me what is wrong with
my floppy drive?

Yes, ImageDisks main purpose is in archiving/preserving/recreating any floppy diskette the PC FDC hardware is capable of reading/writing.

But it was specifically created to assist in the preservation of "old" media for very classic systems. And being oriented toward the preservation and restoration of these old systems, it does much more than just "read and write". Specifically of interest to you, is that it has the ability to help test, align and otherwise maintain the various floppy drives which were used on such systems.

While on the subject of programs, you dont know where I can get a USB installer for
DOS by any chance? (so it can read my USB sound card and memory sticks)

USB support in DOS is very limited, and I doubt you'll get support for a "USB sound card" unless the maker of that card provides DOS drivers (unless it's very old - unlikely these days)

The ImageDisk bootable floppy I mentioned earlier does have support for USB mass storage. I've not actually looked at it in years (I almost always transfer images over network with DDLINK now), and I do recall it being somewhat temperamental with various hardware back in the day - good luck!

Im sorry I can no long continue with this!