eddman wrote on Yesterday, 20:00:

Preface: There is a WIP project to add Rage 128 Pro emulation to 86box. Currently it's in the testing stage and there have been […]
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Preface: There is a WIP project to add Rage 128 Pro emulation to 86box. Currently it's in the testing stage and there have been issues with certain games. It's not immediately apparent if they're caused by drivers, the game itself, or the emulation.

One case we've encountered so far is with Thief 2. Can anyone confirm if the following happen on real hardware, and if so, which drivers?

Fog gradients, tested with drivers 6263 and 6292:

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Flickering text: (I couldn't figure out how to embed the video, if it's even possible)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13xPJuJDE_gzS … AXX2J9OGdV/view

Rage128Pro (Rage4) has table fog issues at Win9x, the only way i have able to get table fog working is with dgVoodoo, same is with Rage XL (Rage3).

XP and ATi driver 7.11 fixes Thief II fog, but 7.11 drivers are for WinXP and Radeon cards, not for any Rage3 or Rage4.

marxveix wrote on Today, 01:13:

Rage128Pro (Rage4) has table fog issues at Win9x

Are you saying the non-Pro 128 is fine?

Based on what I've seen here, it looks fine with driver 6292 and older, but I guess that's showing the non-Pro 128. To note, I'm specifically asking about this game, and not the general table fog situation or in other games.

Also the issue with the real card seems to be incomplete rendering, and not gradients.

eddman wrote on Today, 05:59:

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marxveix wrote on Today, 01:13:

Rage128Pro (Rage4) has table fog issues at Win9x

Are you saying the non-Pro 128 is fine?

Based on what I've seen here, it looks fine with driver 6292 and older, but I guess that's showing the non-Pro 128. To note, I'm specifically asking about this game, and not the general table fog situation or in other games.

Also the issue with the real card seems to be incomplete rendering, and not gradients.

Thief II uses d3d table fog for its fog, if it works for Rage128, it works also for Rage128Pro, just earliest Rage128 drivers did not have Rage128Pro support. 4.12.6292 has both (Rage128 and Rage128 Pro).

I can check out Thief II again at some point with Rage128Pro.

Graphics cards with partial (inaccurate) table tog support
ATI Rage XL[12]
ATI Rage 128/Pro[13]

https://www.vogonswiki.com/index.php/List_of_ … ble_Fog_support

eddman wrote on Yesterday, 20:00:

One case we've encountered so far is with Thief 2. Can anyone confirm if the following happen on real 128 Pro hardware, and if so, which drivers?

Fog gradients, tested with drivers 6263 and 6292:

To me, that looks like 16-bit dithering isn't working.

Also, from what I've seen, every ATi card prior to the ones based on the R300 chip have incomplete table fog support. Even with the most compatible drivers and registry tweaks, those older ATi cards can never perfectly match the 3DFX/Nvidia/Matrox table fog implementation. Only R300, R400 and R500 cards using Catalyst 7.11 drivers (or newer) have 100% accurate table fog support.