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First post, by Machine Monarch

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Hi everyone!

First time posting here and I had to create an account because I'm ecstatic!

A while ago I purchase a Toshiba Satellite Pro 430CDT as I had always wanted one of those thick 90s laptops. It came in quite good condition, the battery even held some charge for upwards of 30 minutes.
The floppy drive that it came with was already broken because the rubber band had dried out. As some of you know, it does feature a CD-ROM drive which it is not possible to boot from.

Earlier I came across this post, Toshiba Satellite Pro 430CDT, which showed that it was possible to replace the floppy with a slim floppy TEAC-drive...
Fastforward half a year or so and I'm at work where we're throwing out these very old Supermicro Super Servers (5013C-M) which have been sitting below a storage shelf collecting dust. I quickly notice that they feature slim-type floppy drives and I decide to salvage one in the off chance that maybe, MAYBE they work!

Unfortunately the drive does not fit in its original case BUT at least the connector seems to be the same... And it WORKS! 😁

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I decide to try and update the bios from version 6.30 to 6.50 using the floppy drive. This also works!

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As an added bonus, the CD-Drive from the servers is also compatible with this laptop.
I left the sticker with the server name on for added coolness... 😉

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Now onto replacing the HDD with Compact Flash. I think I'm going to try and install NetBSD on it due to their low hardware requirements. Maybe I can even get a CMOS battery replacement!

Reply 1 of 5, by jaZz_KCS

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Depending on where you live regarding postage, I can hit you up with a floppy that fits.
Or, you buy yourself one of these that I usually use as substitutes for Satellites.
One of those cheap USB superslim USB Floppy drives.
They seem to be mostly TEAC old stock, and have the same formfactor and button position. They are nudered by a small PCB in the enclosure which can be removed. Afterwards they can read and write all the formats again, they have the same smaller width 26pin flat ribbon connector (with the USB translator PCB in place they work over USB, albeit only 720 and 1440 modes are available, but over the original connection they do work as originally intended).

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These drives usually cost around 10-15 bucks tops.
I have successfully used these drives as substitutes in laptops of the Compaq Contura and Aero series, as well as Toshiba DynaBook, Tecra and Satellite (Pro) series.

Reply 2 of 5, by Machine Monarch

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jaZz_KCS wrote on 2020-02-25, 19:59:
Depending on where you live regarding postage, I can hit you up with a floppy that fits. Or, you buy yourself one of these that […]
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Depending on where you live regarding postage, I can hit you up with a floppy that fits.
Or, you buy yourself one of these that I usually use as substitutes for Satellites.
One of those cheap USB superslim USB Floppy drives.
They seem to be mostly TEAC old stock, and have the same formfactor and button position. They are nudered by a small PCB in the enclosure which can be removed. Afterwards they can read and write all the formats again, they have the same smaller width 26pin flat ribbon connector (with the USB translator PCB in place they work over USB, albeit only 720 and 1440 modes are available, but over the original connection they do work as originally intended).

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These drives usually cost around 10-15 bucks tops.
I have successfully used these drives as substitutes in laptops of the Compaq Contura and Aero series, as well as Toshiba DynaBook, Tecra and Satellite (Pro) series.

I just discovered a whole bunch of old slim floppy drives tucked away in a drawer at work. Some of them seem promising so I'm going to see if I can start with those.
In anyways, thank you for the kind offer!

Reply 3 of 5, by jaZz_KCS

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Machine Monarch wrote on 2020-02-25, 20:13:

I just discovered a whole bunch of old slim floppy drives tucked away in a drawer at work. Some of them seem promising so I'm going to see if I can start with those.
In anyways, thank you for the kind offer!

There surely ought to be some fitting ones amongst them. And direct drive. Most newer ones are, gladly.

Reply 4 of 5, by jatterbwips

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Hiii! Sorry for necroposting but I was just really excited to see this post because I have almost the same Satellite laptop except mine has a built-in FDD (which is broken) instead of a CD-ROM drive.

I was just wondering two things, one: did you have to do anything crazy to remove that CD-ROM, or was it pretty easily swappable? Because my Floppy Drive certainly doesn't seem removable.
Two: I'm curious what port that external FDD is plugged into? I'm assuming parallel because that seems to be the most common port for external FDDs but wanted to ask 😄
Also, can you boot from both the FDD and the CD-ROM drive?

Anywho congrats on your successful repair!! (also nice marceline pfp!)

Reply 5 of 5, by Thermalwrong

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jatterbwips wrote on Today, 00:55:
Hiii! Sorry for necroposting but I was just really excited to see this post because I have almost the same Satellite laptop exce […]
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Hiii! Sorry for necroposting but I was just really excited to see this post because I have almost the same Satellite laptop except mine has a built-in FDD (which is broken) instead of a CD-ROM drive.

I was just wondering two things, one: did you have to do anything crazy to remove that CD-ROM, or was it pretty easily swappable? Because my Floppy Drive certainly doesn't seem removable.
Two: I'm curious what port that external FDD is plugged into? I'm assuming parallel because that seems to be the most common port for external FDDs but wanted to ask 😄
Also, can you boot from both the FDD and the CD-ROM drive?

Anywho congrats on your successful repair!! (also nice marceline pfp!)

Hey welcome to the forum 😀

Do you have a Satellite T2100 laptop or a Satellite 110CT perhaps? The Satellite 110CT is like the Pentium version of the earlier Satellite T21xx (486) laptops - they both have a fixed floppy drive.
The higher-end Satellite 200 and 400 series have a swappable drive bay which has a lock-switch and ejector lever on the underside which you use to eject the CD-ROM/Floppy drive. The Satellite 400 series has a connector on the left side by the pcmcia slots where the external floppy connector plugs in, which is a little 26-pin connector specific to Toshiba - look up the Toshiba PA2611U caddy for an example.
Because the Satellite 100 series isn't a multimedia laptop and doesn't have the CD-ROM drive, it doesn't have the external floppy connector and instead has the heatsink for passive cooling in the space where that'd go.

The Satellite 400 series numbers 400 up to 430 don't support booting from CD-ROM drive directly so only hard drive and floppy drive are bootable. The later models of the Satellite range, specifically the 220/230 and 440 up to 490 models do support booting from CD-ROM drive though.