CharlieFoxtrot wrote on 2026-09-17, 11:54:

Or at least I'm old enough not to hear that anymore, but I don't think that is it because I can hear whining old HDDs just fine.

/offtopic
As for hard drives – yes, this is a problem for those who didn’t manage to switch to terabyte-class SSDs for ‘warm data’ before this year.
After all, reducing noise by 80 % costs just 20 % of the total cost.
Usually, it’s the single noisiest fan in the case, and replacing it isn’t difficult.
After that, every extra decibel starts to cost more and more.
Until you get to the noise from the hard drives. And this year, you’d need to be Elon Musk’s heir to afford that.

ldeveraux wrote on 2026-09-17, 13:06:

wierd_w wrote on 2026-09-16, 19:02:

Says the guy who does not understand "Legacy Systems" :D […]
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Says the guy who does not understand "Legacy Systems" 😁

Our hobby is not the only market for old hardware.

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Besides, what is good for this goose, is good for the modern gander as well. Why replace an expensive Corsair Gold rated PSU, just because the fan got all full of gunk, and the bearings failed? Shouldn't you just, y'know.... replace the fan?

Are you trying to reply to me? Don't know how to quote? I understand what a legacy system is, I don't understand why you'd insist on using an old, outdated, and clearly malfunctioning system in an environment when far better options exist.
You do you, I'm done trying to justify sanity and conscientious reasoning to you.

Being snide does not help you. I do in fact know how to use the quote function, I just dislike having huge nested bits of data for the forum's software to have to parse.

As for your statement, you *CLEARLY* do NOT understand Legacy Systems, if you think you can just replace them.

There are situations where that is not possible. Some noteworthy examples include:

Vinyl cutting machines
XRay machines
Medical imaging machines
Mass transit management systems
*ANYWHERE* there is difficult to update regulatory compliance that mandates specific hardware configurations.

These often have bespoke hardware inside that is not supported by the original OEM on any other hardware. The ONLY option is to repair them, or find suitable vintage parts.

If you think this is not widespread, you are even MORE wrong.

https://www.captechu.edu/blog/why-legacy-tech … of-modern-world

Again, our hobby is not the only place vintage equipment is sought after.

Not all psus these days have a 20+4 ATX like they used to. Shop cautiously otherwise a 24 to 20 pin adapter is needed.

^ Good point Roxfly. 👍

Only in rare cases of planetary conjunction can a one-piece ATX24 connector be directly plugged into an ATX20 header.