I'm sorry to interrupt, I noticed that the devices supported from the drivers are growing, so I wonder what's the purpose of this project? Create a multi device driver or a more optimized for s3 cards?

Nemo1985 wrote on 2026-10-11, 11:34:

I'm sorry to interrupt, I noticed that the devices supported from the drivers are growing, so I wonder what's the purpose of this project? Create a multi device driver or a more optimized for s3 cards?

Both really. The Direct3D/OpenGL code/core is shared between all cards, so improvements in one can improve others.

I've posted this elsewhere but thought it was cool.

This compares the most recent/last Matrox driver to v9x driver for Matrox Mill 2.

Previously textures did not render, now they do! In hardware Direct3D.

It's literally astonishing that you achieved what Matrox couldn't.

mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-10, 07:03:

Okay I was able to replicate the issue, the problem actually seems to be with Windows 95, the same issue occured on the stock S3 driver.

If you have your desktop set to 16bit colour (not 8bit) then Windows 95 can't switch correctly; AOE is expecting 8bit colour.

If you change your desktop to 8bit before starting that game it should work, hopefully!

AoE starts fine when running on 16bit Stock Driver Desktop.

AncapDude wrote on 2026-10-12, 07:28:

mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-10, 07:03:

Okay I was able to replicate the issue, the problem actually seems to be with Windows 95, the same issue occured on the stock S3 driver.

If you have your desktop set to 16bit colour (not 8bit) then Windows 95 can't switch correctly; AOE is expecting 8bit colour.

If you change your desktop to 8bit before starting that game it should work, hopefully!

AoE starts fine when running on 16bit Stock Driver Desktop.

Thanks I’ll check again then, I might need to decompile aoe to see what it does, StarCraft seems different

0.17 is now out https://github.com/michaeldale/velocity9x/rel … ses/tag/v0.17.0 this fixes some Glide issues on GMA950 and first release that supports the Voodoo 4 (its slow and not finished).

The reporting is also better, and the update checker and auto update function has been working for people which is cool!

marxveix wrote on 2026-10-09, 11:19:

mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-09, 05:42:

Wow Glide is actually working on the Rage XL in 0.14 already, tested on UT99, its fast. Lol

I dont have UT99 at the moment, but NFS2SE did not run on my XL, OpenGL MultiTexture works.

Here is the plan built to add support for ATI 3DCIF, I hope to add soon.

https://github.com/michaeldale/velocity9x/blo … dcif-wrapper.md

mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-13, 10:48:

marxveix wrote on 2026-10-09, 11:19:

mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-09, 05:42:

Wow Glide is actually working on the Rage XL in 0.14 already, tested on UT99, its fast. Lol

I dont have UT99 at the moment, but NFS2SE did not run on my XL, OpenGL MultiTexture works.

Here is the plan built to add support for ATI 3DCIF, I hope to add soon.

https://github.com/michaeldale/velocity9x/blo … dcif-wrapper.md

Probably nothing new,but one extra 3D Rage aticif link cifwhite.html
https://web.archive.org/web/19971017080140/ht … r/cifwhite.html

Rage II should have Palletized textures support, but i have not seen it in action, R3 has it.
Here BRender: Re: ATi RagePro drivers and software

I knew there was a reason I was "hoarding" Rages.... well not all that intentionally, they just seem to turn up. Though the next incidental Rage coming in as part of a lot I am kind of anticipating a little because it's a "full fat" 8MB Rage Pro Turbo PCI, think my other PCI only has 4.

BitWrangler wrote on 2026-10-13, 21:47:

I knew there was a reason I was "hoarding" Rages.... well not all that intentionally, they just seem to turn up. Though the next incidental Rage coming in as part of a lot I am kind of anticipating a little because it's a "full fat" 8MB Rage Pro Turbo PCI, think my other PCI only has 4.

Haha yeah they're a bit slow but easy to work with and I like my Rage XL 8mb PCI I recently got.

I've added the first release (still some bugs) with ATi 3D CIF support:
https://github.com/michaeldale/velocity9x/rel … ses/tag/v0.18.0

mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-13, 10:48:

marxveix wrote on 2026-10-09, 11:19:

mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-09, 05:42:

Wow Glide is actually working on the Rage XL in 0.14 already, tested on UT99, its fast. Lol

I dont have UT99 at the moment, but NFS2SE did not run on my XL, OpenGL MultiTexture works.

Here is the plan built to add support for ATI 3DCIF, I hope to add soon.

https://github.com/michaeldale/velocity9x/blo … dcif-wrapper.md

Oh man, this is awesome! Since you're digging into 90s graphics card history anyway: I'd be really happy to see working table fog support for the ATI Rage Mobility M1 in my ThinkPad X20. Just in case ^^

ElTentakel wrote on Yesterday, 04:27:

mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-13, 10:48:

marxveix wrote on 2026-10-09, 11:19:

I dont have UT99 at the moment, but NFS2SE did not run on my XL, OpenGL MultiTexture works.

Here is the plan built to add support for ATI 3DCIF, I hope to add soon.

https://github.com/michaeldale/velocity9x/blo … dcif-wrapper.md

Oh man, this is awesome! Since you're digging into 90s graphics card history anyway: I'd be really happy to see working table fog support for the ATI Rage Mobility M1 in my ThinkPad X20. Just in case ^^

Oh yeah it is on my list, one of the last things left to get full ati rage coverage I think.

mwdmeyer wrote on Yesterday, 04:32:

ElTentakel wrote on Yesterday, 04:27:

mwdmeyer wrote on 2026-10-13, 10:48:

Here is the plan built to add support for ATI 3DCIF, I hope to add soon.

https://github.com/michaeldale/velocity9x/blo … dcif-wrapper.md

Oh man, this is awesome! Since you're digging into 90s graphics card history anyway: I'd be really happy to see working table fog support for the ATI Rage Mobility M1 in my ThinkPad X20. Just in case ^^

Oh yeah it is on my list, one of the last things left to get full ati rage coverage I think.

Table Fog will work on Rage XL/XC and maybe Mobility cards, but not on original Rage Pro - this is with stock driver findings over Glide.
Other things to implement on Rage cards is that over OpenGL it supports paletted textures, over Direct3D it works, at least with ati drv.
Also Rage XL PCI/XC PCI and other rage cards that dont work with regular ATi3DCIF driver, its just driver issue, not hardware issue at all.

Can I use this to install an ATI Radeon 9200 on Windows 95?

vico wrote on Yesterday, 15:02:

Can I use this to install an ATI Radeon 9200 on Windows 95?

Radeon 9200 has windows 95 drivers as i know, even newer r300 works.
ATI Radeon 9200 AGP card in Windows 95?

I think the drivers work with an ATI Radeon 9200 PCI, but mine is AGP, and I haven't managed to get it working properly in Windows 95.

vico wrote on Yesterday, 16:10:

I think the drivers work with an ATI Radeon 9200 PCI, but mine is AGP, and I haven't managed to get it working properly in Windows 95.

You say that Catalyst 3.4 driver does not work for you with Catalyst 3.1 or Catalyst 3.2 OpenGL?

Velocity9x 0.18.0 ati driver and Aticubes demo. Try the background demo get to the same color as ATi stock driver has.
Here visible how they should look : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mnahhue0VWs

I did try Formula 1 and Tomb Raider 3DCIF games, more work todo there. Log i can send.

This is (beside the decomp/recomp for ARM64/Metal Mac' to play console-games native) one of the first real interesting thing that made use of AI with real usage for me.