what games is korg needed for?

Slot-count is mostly irrelevant as concerns MIDI-connected devices, but, going with the theme of "greatest number of concurrently accessible sound thingies," here is my 486 config:

Slot 1: IBM (Yamaha) Music Feature Card

Slot 2: Roland LAPC-I
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+ MCB-1 MIDI OUT 1 > MOTU MTP MIDI network:
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| - Casio CSM-1
| - Roland D-10
| - Roland D-110
| - Roland D-550
| - Roland FG-10
| - Roland JD-990
| - Roland MT-32, Rev. 1, "old-type" (Even channels assigned)
| - Roland MT-32, Rev. 1, "old-type" (Odd channels assigned)
| - Roland MT-32, Rev. 1, "new-type"
| - Roland MT-32, Rev. 1, "new-type" (Overflow-assigned)
| - Roland SC-55mkII
| - Roland XV-5080
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+ MCB-1 MIDI OUT 2 > Roland MPU-105:
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| - Creative WaveBlaster I (EMU8801), via MIDITEMP DoX-BoX
| - Ensoniq SoundScape DB, via MIDITEMP DoX-BoX
| - Media Vision Pro Wave DB (Korg), via MIDITEMP DoX-BoX
| - Yamaha DB50XG, via MIDITEMP DoX-BoX
| - Yamaha FB-01 (Even notes assigned)
| - Yamaha FB-01 (Odd notes assigned)

Slot 3: Creative Sound Blaster AWE32, CT3900
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+ Internal:
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| - Roland SCB-55
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+ External:
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| - AVM Summit (Kurzweil)

Slot 4: Creative Game Blaster, CT1300

Parallel: (Disney) Sound Source

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I think we need a picture for this 😀

What do these mean? What are they for?
(Even channels assigned)
(Odd channels assigned)
(Overflow-assigned)

From what I understand the MT-32 has something like a "limit" in terms of how much it can do at a given time. And this helps the situation I think.

robertmo wrote:

what games is korg needed for?

not really dedicated for any games, but just an alternative style of GM sound apart from roland, yamaha and emu. 🤣

Cloudschatze wrote:

Slot-count is mostly irrelevant as concerns MIDI-connected devices, but, going with the theme of "greatest number of concurrentl […]
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Slot-count is mostly irrelevant as concerns MIDI-connected devices, but, going with the theme of "greatest number of concurrently accessible sound thingies," here is my 486 config:

Slot 1: IBM (Yamaha) Music Feature Card

Slot 2: Roland LAPC-I
|
+ MCB-1 MIDI OUT 1 > MOTU MTP MIDI network:
|
| - Casio CSM-1
| - Roland D-10
| - Roland D-110
| - Roland D-550
| - Roland FG-10
| - Roland JD-990
| - Roland MT-32, Rev. 1, "old-type" (Even channels assigned)
| - Roland MT-32, Rev. 1, "old-type" (Odd channels assigned)
| - Roland MT-32, Rev. 1, "new-type"
| - Roland MT-32, Rev. 1, "new-type" (Overflow-assigned)
| - Roland SC-55mkII
| - Roland XV-5080
|
+ MCB-1 MIDI OUT 2 > Roland MPU-105:
|
| - Creative WaveBlaster I (EMU8801), via MIDITEMP DoX-BoX
| - Ensoniq SoundScape DB, via MIDITEMP DoX-BoX
| - Media Vision Pro Wave DB (Korg), via MIDITEMP DoX-BoX
| - Yamaha DB50XG, via MIDITEMP DoX-BoX
| - Yamaha FB-01 (Even notes assigned)
| - Yamaha FB-01 (Odd notes assigned)

Slot 3: Creative Sound Blaster AWE32, CT3900
|
+ Internal:
|
| - Roland SCB-55
|
+ External:
|
| - AVM Summit (Kurzweil)

Slot 4: Creative Game Blaster, CT1300

Parallel: (Disney) Sound Source

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yeah you have a running 486, but i only have an asus cubx and a gigabyte ali5 for an isa platform, both with only 2 isa slots, that's why i am talking about this. 🤣

@Cloudschatze: Quite impressive, especially setting up a 'MIDI network' with redundant devices used for channel splitting 😉
Could you give some sound example where the limitation of a single MT-32 is clearly heard in comparison of using two?

For me, I nice setup is pairing a EWS64XL and a GUS. In addition to the Dream chipset on the EWS64 you can put a wavetable board on it and a external MIDI synth.
The goal is not to cover as many GM synths as possible but to have all of the most common sound hardware standards in DOS combined.

Though thats not a problem at all, since I have multiple systems with different setups.

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

I think we need a picture for this 😀

These are a bit outdated, and can be seen in other posts. The 486 is below the desk, and is not visible in the picture, nor is the CSM-1 anywhere in sight. Bear in mind that this setup is mostly geared towards music-production, and not gaming, hence the redundancy with some of the synths in the 486.

The satellite rack sits on a desk to the left of the main (pictured) desk...

Here's an old thread (also outdated) on the various iterations of my 486 build:

Re: Ye Olde Synthe i486

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

From what I understand the MT-32 has something like a "limit" in terms of how much it can do at a given time. And this helps the situation I think.

That's basically it - increased polyphony. Similarly, the FB-01s can be configured to respond to either even notes, or odd notes (or both, by default), increasing their polyphony as well.

The older MT-32 units (sans headphone-jack) have buggy overflow-assignment - as has been pointed out a number of times by NewRisingSun on the QuestStudios forum, in addition to a recorded example I provided - hence the split MIDI-channel configuration with these instead, facilitated by the MTPs.

elianda wrote:

Could you give some sound example where the limitation of a single MT-32 is clearly heard in comparison of using two?

Here is one example where the increased polyphony of two MT-32s is pretty noticeable, as compared to the single-unit output:

X-Wing Intro, single MT-32

X-Wing Intro, 2x MT-32

Feels like I'm thread hi-jacking here. 😦

wow you even have a xv5080, what game is that for? and how much did it cost?

Roland SC-55mkII and AWE with a SCB-55; whats the point? Can't live without the hanging note bug, or no other DB available at the moment? 😜

Cloudschatze wrote:

Bear in mind that this setup is mostly geared towards music-production, and not gaming, hence the redundancy with some of the synths in the 486.

The XV-5080 isn't used for gaming, nor would I ever suggest that anyone buy one with that purpose in mind.

The 486 has an SCB-55 so it can function as an all-in-one, stand-alone system.

Cloudschatze wrote:

These are a bit outdated, and can be seen in other posts. The 486 is below the desk, and is not visible in the picture, nor is t […]
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Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

I think we need a picture for this 😀

These are a bit outdated, and can be seen in other posts. The 486 is below the desk, and is not visible in the picture, nor is the CSM-1 anywhere in sight. Bear in mind that this setup is mostly geared towards music-production, and not gaming, hence the redundancy with some of the synths in the 486.

The satellite rack sits on a desk to the left of the main (pictured) desk...

Here's an old thread (also outdated) on the various iterations of my 486 build:

Re: Ye Olde Synthe i486

Mau1wurf1977 wrote:

From what I understand the MT-32 has something like a "limit" in terms of how much it can do at a given time. And this helps the situation I think.

That's basically it - increased polyphony. Similarly, the FB-01s can be configured to respond to either even notes, or odd notes (or both, by default), increasing their polyphony as well.

The older MT-32 units (sans headphone-jack) have buggy overflow-assignment - as has been pointed out a number of times by NewRisingSun on the QuestStudios forum, in addition to a recorded example I provided - hence the split MIDI-channel configuration with these instead, facilitated by the MTPs.

elianda wrote:

Could you give some sound example where the limitation of a single MT-32 is clearly heard in comparison of using two?

Here is one example where the increased polyphony of two MT-32s is pretty noticeable, as compared to the single-unit output:

X-Wing Intro, single MT-32

X-Wing Intro, 2x MT-32

Feels like I'm thread hi-jacking here. 😦

What is the fifth MT32 for? Spare? Music composing? 😜

MaxWar wrote:

What is the fifth MT32 for? Spare? Music composing? 😜

That's the FG-10. It isn't serving any serious purpose - it's more-or-less just there to act as a cool clock. 😉

http://queststudios.com/smf/index.php/topic,2457.0.html