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Reply 20 of 40, by eFatal2ty

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videos:

V2SLI: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrQp64cSSno
Banshee: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4f76r_61Xg

*ASUS P3B-F *Intel Pentium!!! 450MHz Katmai@133fsb *Hynix 4x128MB SDR PC133 CL2 *Matrox G400MAX 32MB + Procomp Voodoo2 12MB SLi *Creative SB Live! CT4760 *3Com 3C905C-TX-M *2xSeagate 40GB 7200rpmn *EIZO T68 19"CRT * Creative FPS1000 *OS: MS Win 98SE

Reply 21 of 40, by eFatal2ty

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This week i am waiting for 3dfx Voodoo 1 and 3dfx Voodoo 3 and some SDRAM so I used them in this computers:

ATi Rage 128PRO Ultra+Voodoo1 on IP3 600 PC
Voodoo 3 on IP3 550 PC
Banshee on Celeron 700 PC

TNT2 PRO remains unused

*ASUS P3B-F *Intel Pentium!!! 450MHz Katmai@133fsb *Hynix 4x128MB SDR PC133 CL2 *Matrox G400MAX 32MB + Procomp Voodoo2 12MB SLi *Creative SB Live! CT4760 *3Com 3C905C-TX-M *2xSeagate 40GB 7200rpmn *EIZO T68 19"CRT * Creative FPS1000 *OS: MS Win 98SE

Reply 22 of 40, by eFatal2ty

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I am going to build another RIGs (waiting for V3 3000 and Super7 board)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgG0c7fR8w8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc-7kxpI6s8

and then something special GREEN+BLACK 1998 (HDD, Soundcard, LAN and cpu cooler is missing, rest i have)

-Aopen AX6B, Intel 440BX
-Intel Pentium II 450MHz MMX
-Kingston 1x256MB PC100 SDRAM CL3 ECC
-ATi Rage Fury 128GL 32MB AGP
-Diamond Monster Sound MX200 PCI
-Adaptec AHA-2930U SCSI PCI
-D-Link DFE-530TX 10/100MBps PCI
-2xSeagate Medalist Pro 7200 9.15GB/ IBM Deskstar 14GXP DTTA-371440 14.45GB / or some SCSI Ultra2 160 SCSI disk
-DVDROM+CDRW+FDD1.44Mb+ZIP Drive
-MS Windows 98 First Edition

*ASUS P3B-F *Intel Pentium!!! 450MHz Katmai@133fsb *Hynix 4x128MB SDR PC133 CL2 *Matrox G400MAX 32MB + Procomp Voodoo2 12MB SLi *Creative SB Live! CT4760 *3Com 3C905C-TX-M *2xSeagate 40GB 7200rpmn *EIZO T68 19"CRT * Creative FPS1000 *OS: MS Win 98SE

Reply 23 of 40, by Totempole

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eFatal2ty wrote:
Another V2SLI machine - This is my oldest machine - Based on AT […]
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Another V2SLI machine - This is my oldest machine - Based on AT

-Ritech Minitower AT 1x8cm FrontFAN + SkyHawk 230W AT
-Gigabyte GA-586SG, chipset SiS 5591, Socket7
-AMD K6-II 350MHz(OC: 366MHz 4,5*83MHz), 100Mhz FSB, 32kb L1cache, 0.25nm, MMX, 3DNow!, Socket 7
-Transcend 128Mb (4x32Mb) FPM RAM SIMM 66MHz@83MHz,
-Ati Rage3D IIC, 8Mb SD-RAM, AGP2x
-Creative Labs 3dfx Voodoo2 12Mb VRAM 100MHz, PCI, SLi
-CREATIVE Sound Blaster Vibra 16C, ISA 16Bit
-Adaptec AHA-2940S76 SCSI Raid
-VIA VT6212 2xUSB PCI
-Seagate ST32430N 2Gb SCSI HDD
-Fujitsu Limited MPD-304AT 4Gb HDD IDE
-Mitsumi CDRW, FDD 3.5" 1.44Mb
-Ports: 1*DIN, 1*PS/2 Mouse, 2*Serial 09, 1*Serial 25, 1*Parallel
-AST Vision 5La, 15" CRT Best: 1024*768 32Bit 75Hz, TCO1992
-Lite-On SK-1500-2D Keyboard, Microsoft Trekker Wheel Mouse 2.0A PS/2
-Genius Multimedia Hi-Fi Speaker System SP-P110

-Microsoft Windows 95 OSR2.5 (DX 5, WMP 4, IE4)
-Microsoft Office 97 Professional

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OMG. That case is the same as the one my first PC had.

It was a Pentium 1 133MHz With MMX
16MB RAM
1.6GB Samsung HDD
1MB PCI S3 Trio64V+
ESS Audiodrive PCI (Not sure which one anymore)
Don't know which Mobo.
20x Samsung CD-Rom
Samsung Stiffy Drive.
14" WEN monitor

Anyway, it was eventually upgraded to 32MB RAM and a 200MMX CPU.

My Retro Gaming PC:
Pentium III 450MHz Katmai Slot 1
Transcend 256MB PC133
Gigabyte GA-6BXC
MSI Geforce 2 MX400 AGP
Ensoniq ES1371 PCI
Sound Blaster AWE64 ISA

Reply 24 of 40, by raymangold

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RacoonRider wrote:

Is that retro? I only recently upgraded my main PC to this level.

Core2s are considered pretty old these days.

However, I do have a core2quad extreme which runs at 2.98 Ghz, the fastest core2 processor available for 1st gen systems and performs pretty well. It runs a quite bit hotter than a 2.4 Ghz C2Q, and [slowly] killed the VRM on my motherboard. I also used higher ESR capcitors which killed the same board-- so I am now down to my third one :p
I would like to determine what component fails... then I could just boost it to a higher rated one so I can finally use the QX6800.

I've since retired that system and am on a dual xeon with 32GB of ECC.

Reply 25 of 40, by tayyare

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eFatal2ty wrote:

yes, 6 years is enough 😜

No, it's not. My main gear is a Core2 Quad.. 🤣

GA-6VTXE PIII 1.4+512MB
Geforce4 Ti 4200 64MB
Diamond Monster 3D 12MB SLI
SB AWE64 PNP+32MB
120GB IDE Samsung/80GB IDE Seagate/146GB SCSI Compaq/73GB SCSI IBM
Adaptec AHA29160
3com 3C905B-TX
Gotek+CF Reader
MSDOS 6.22+Win 3.11/95 OSR2.1/98SE/ME/2000

Reply 26 of 40, by joacim

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I'm with tayyare. My main rig used to be based on the Asus P5B. Upgraded from my C2D E6300 to an E7600 last year. Upgraded to a current motherboard and CPU last month, but I still love my old system. Used that motherboard for nearly 8 years. =)

Reply 27 of 40, by tayyare

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joacim wrote:

I'm with tayyare. My main rig used to be based on the Asus P5B. Upgraded from my C2D E6300 to an E7600 last year. Upgraded to a current motherboard and CPU last month, but I still love my old system. Used that motherboard for nearly 8 years. =)

Mine was (and still is) P5Q Premium with Q9550 since 29.09.2009 😈 Only upgrades are a bluray player (2 months ago) and Asus ENGTX560 1GB (from an ENGTX250 512MB on 23.04.2012) before that. The rest are all the same, since the day one. Ah, and I upgraded XP to Windows 7 last summer.

I have no intention of changing them in the forseeable future, either. 😎

GA-6VTXE PIII 1.4+512MB
Geforce4 Ti 4200 64MB
Diamond Monster 3D 12MB SLI
SB AWE64 PNP+32MB
120GB IDE Samsung/80GB IDE Seagate/146GB SCSI Compaq/73GB SCSI IBM
Adaptec AHA29160
3com 3C905B-TX
Gotek+CF Reader
MSDOS 6.22+Win 3.11/95 OSR2.1/98SE/ME/2000

Reply 28 of 40, by King_Corduroy

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Yeah I also just upgraded to a Core 2 Duo E8400 3ghz and 8GB ram. It makes me worry a bit that some people are calling it retro. 😒
How far behind am I? I've completely lost track! 😮

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Reply 29 of 40, by nforce4max

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King_Corduroy wrote:

Yeah I also just upgraded to a Core 2 Duo E8400 3ghz and 8GB ram. It makes me worry a bit that some people are calling it retro. 😒
How far behind am I? I've completely lost track! 😮

By at least 4 years considering those who only use the latest things were moving over to core i5/i7 back in 2010. Still good enough for today's needs if you tweak everything right.

On a far away planet reading your posts in the year 10,191.

Reply 30 of 40, by Nahkri

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My main platform is also Core 2 Duo,Asus P5Q motherboard,Core 2 Duo E 7400-2,8 ghz overclocked to 3,8 ghz ,6 giga ram,PowerColor HD6850 with 1 giga ram also overclocked.Runs everything fine,thinking of getting a ssd for it,folowed by a better videocard and later maybe a core 2 quad.

Reply 31 of 40, by Holering

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It's kind of crazy the core2's came out almost 9 years ago. It certainly doesn't feel like it, especially considering the gap between K6 and core2 duo. Honestly, multicore shows how lame programmers have been about it (especially in regards to games). I swear I read something about the Titanfall game using uncompressed audio to run faster on older PCs; not to mention the recent Battlefield sequel running on core2 architecture. I just can't remember a K6 or pentium 2 being usable for games of 2006 (let alone 2003). Am I seeing $hit?

Reply 33 of 40, by Half-Saint

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If you look at the last few iterations of Windows (Vista, 7, 😎 there haven't been many changes in hardware requirements. I find that I can run Windows 7 fine on just about any Core2Duo based system. It was such a big step up from P4 (in my eyes) that now Intel is deliberately slowing down progress. What's the difference between Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge and Haswell? Not much at all! I thought we'd be seeing much more powerful CPUs by now. I think Intel is just taking advantage of its current market position and cashing in on that.

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Reply 34 of 40, by Holering

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Don't understand why higher density and faster speed is going to improve a PC with its current design. It is an utter waste to make higher density and faster speed. When you talk about fast memory access, you need to consider why CPU cache is so much faster than external system memory. If you compare the cray super computer to todays PCs, you'll see what I mean.

Why hardware designs don't implement better memory architecture is beyond me. If cpu cache was the system memory, then you'd be on the right track. There's tons of cpu power wasted because of the retarded (literally) system memory architecture. CPUs in their current state, always have to travel across a bus to access system memory in real-time; and that same bus is accessed by GPUs, sound cards, wifi adapters, HDDs, USB, etc. CPUs would be way way fast if cache was the main memory instead. Much less waste of silicon (and way more speed) had there been a better architecture by now.

If you've taken Computer Science courses in networking, you'll know why a bus topology is slower than a star topology (especially a hybrid star-ring topology); especially compared to a mesh topology.

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Reply 35 of 40, by King_Corduroy

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Definitely, progress in hardware seems to be coming to a grinding halt. At least this gives programmers the chance to better optimize their software though, that is one thing I hated about the late 90's - early 2000's. Everything was just more and more power hungry and for little or no reason, it made it so I basically just stuck with my old computers (not that I had any choice) and kept using the same utilities and programs I already knew ran on my computers. Hell I still use Office 97 to balance my checkbook. 🤣

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Reply 36 of 40, by fyy

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My main system is a Q6600 with 4GB DDR2 800. 😊 So I have to say, nice "retro" system!

Reply 37 of 40, by eFatal2ty

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I have changed CPU and RAM in my 9xBEAST for IPIII450@600B + Hynix 4x128MB CL2 PC133. Retro Overclock Dream 😀
Result: http://s30.postimg.org/go8sesn81/3ddr.png

*ASUS P3B-F *Intel Pentium!!! 450MHz Katmai@133fsb *Hynix 4x128MB SDR PC133 CL2 *Matrox G400MAX 32MB + Procomp Voodoo2 12MB SLi *Creative SB Live! CT4760 *3Com 3C905C-TX-M *2xSeagate 40GB 7200rpmn *EIZO T68 19"CRT * Creative FPS1000 *OS: MS Win 98SE

Reply 38 of 40, by eFatal2ty

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So, Now i have this 98-00 computers for FUN and LAN Play:

1st - 9xBEAST:
ASUS P3B-F i440BX, IP3 450@600, 4x128MB CL2 PC133, GeForce2 Ti 64MB + Voodoo2 12MB SLI, SB Live! CT4760, Seagate 2x40GB 7200rpmn, 3COM LAN

2nd -9xTURBO:
Aopen AX6B i440BX, IP2 MMX 450, 2x256MB CL2 PC100 ECC, Voodoo3 3000 AGP 16MB, SB Live! CT4760, Seagate+WD 2x40GB 7200rpmn, Intel LAN

3rd - 9xMODEL:
GIGABYTE BX2000 i440BX, IP3 550, 1x256MB CL3 PC100, ATi Rage Fury PRO 32MB, SB AWE64 CT4520, Maxtor 15GB 5400rpmn, Intel LAN

4th - 9xENTRY:
PC-Partner MVP3BS7-954, Via Apollo MVP3, AMD K6-2 350AFR, 1x128MB CL2 PC133, Voodoo Banshee 16MB, SB PCI128, WD 20+6GB 5400rpmn, D-Link LAN
/edit:/ this will be upgraded to K6-2 AFX 500MHz

5th - 9xBASIC:
GIGABYTE 6VXE7 VIA Apollo Pro 133, iCeleron 700, 3x32MB CL2 PC66, TNT2 PRO 32MB, SB Vibra 16C CT4180, Adaptec 2940U + Seagate 2GB 5400rpmn SCSI, Realtek LAN

/edit:/ I had to upgrade all the computers with 128MB modules CL2 of PC100/133 SDRAM -all Slots

All of them running MS Win98SE only last one have WinME (its build from things that remained)
I Love Slot1 i440BX boards and 3dfx hardware 😊

Last edited by eFatal2ty on 2014-10-28, 02:38. Edited 5 times in total.

*ASUS P3B-F *Intel Pentium!!! 450MHz Katmai@133fsb *Hynix 4x128MB SDR PC133 CL2 *Matrox G400MAX 32MB + Procomp Voodoo2 12MB SLi *Creative SB Live! CT4760 *3Com 3C905C-TX-M *2xSeagate 40GB 7200rpmn *EIZO T68 19"CRT * Creative FPS1000 *OS: MS Win 98SE

Reply 39 of 40, by RogueTrip2012

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Those are some nice rigs you got.

By chance you willing to share your 3dfx wallpapers?!? 😀

Been awhile since I played with my rig (over 500 days according to scandisk), bout time to get back to torturing it.

> W98SE . P3 1.4S . 512MB . Q.FX3K . SB Live! . 64GB SSD
>WXP/W8.1 . AMD 960T . 8GB . GTX285 . SB X-Fi . 128GB SSD
> Win XI . i7 12700k . 32GB . GTX1070TI . 512GB NVME