I had a Miro Media View ..... used the TV Out only with Windows...

But there was a DOS-Driver for the Card to activate TV Mode... But i think it worked only with Text... Games like Need for Speed did Not Run.... as i remember...

Was there anything that did it all via hardware? I know if I use my Nvidia GeForce cards and have the s-video plugged in it will show the BIOS at boot and you can even get into DOS load up Quake, Wolf3d, etc. fine.

I'd just get a VGA to S-Video converter. That way you can use ANY VGA card which could come in handy when it comes to demos.

Even better is a VGA frame capture card. But not cheap...

I remember years ago there was some sort of VGA to various outputs box that was pretty popular, though pricey (like $300 range). I can't remember the name but I would assume now maybe it could be found for under $200 in the used market. Apparently it was very high quality. The $30 boxes you see on amazon have some mediocre reviews.

Well it's S-Video. Only so much it can do...

Got some videos from before I used a VGA capture device:

http://youtu.be/r70GI0MV1ws

http://youtu.be/Ao6IgHh4wqI

looks pretty decent. Another reason I also wanted this is so I can hook it up to my large-ish (about 30") RCA Console TV that amazingly has s-video in on it. With the newer computer I can play relatively newer titles at 800x600 and still see the text just fine. 1024x768 is supported on all that stuff but the text usually becomes unreadable at that point unless you want to play with HUD scaling (if the game supports it).

Another thing was the $30-range vga to s-video boxes claim it only supports like 640x480, 800x600, etc. But nothing about 320x200 and other standard DOS resolutions. I assume they will display just fine, but can you tell me what box you used and if the other ones most likely work with the lower modes?

Got it from eBay. Grey box with buttons on the side. You can't miss there are 100s of sellers with it.

What about an ATI Rage? Most of mine have either S-Video, Composite, or one of those 9 pin dongle outs.

Was thinking more of a Cirrus Logic or S3. Some kind of non-accelerated card as those drivers tended to be spotty and I don't plan on adding 3d support to this particular machine.

miro Crystal VR4000 has Video-Out. It uses The S3 Virge VX chipset.
The problem with the Riva/Geforce cards is that they do not support the 15 bit and 24 bit modes.
(also Millenium does not)
3dfx core since banshee does not support 15 bit and 32 bit modes.

I update sometimes these infos here: ftp://78.46.141.148/vesainfo/

I had Radeon 8500LE with S-video, it worked right out of the box. Showed boot screen, BIOS and all. Blurry text, good video (well, as good as you get with s-video).

Also some geforce fx (e.g. 5200) pci cards come with s-video.

archsan wrote:

I had Radeon 8500LE with S-video, it worked right out of the box. Showed boot screen, BIOS and all. Blurry text, good video (well, as good as you get with s-video).

Also some geforce fx (e.g. 5200) pci cards come with s-video.

My GeForce MX 4000 works in this capacity as well - it's a PCI card too. 😀

So a bump on this got a Matrox Mystique because I heard of it's great image quality and it is true. 1280x1024 is incredibly sharp. Even sharper than my Voodoo 3 and 5. However, 15bpp is not natively supported, and univbe will add these modes but they fail in the demos I tried them on:

Fudge - Pager 11
Byterapers - Pandemic

There's probably other 15bpp exclusive demos I am forgetting at the moment... Anyways, they will play but the screen is all distorted and you can't really see what is going on. It's very sad as the image quality on this card is nothing short of amazing and supports Vesa 2.0 out of the box along with Linear Frame Buffering so UNIVBE is unneeded for things like Duke3D.

Has anyone tried these two demos on other Matrox cards? I was looking at a Millienium II at some point as well since they are also relatively cheap.

Also forgot to mention this card did pass some other personal tests of mine. The demo TPOLM - Kocmoc, the second scene with the drawing there's usually some kind of noise here and there in the picture on everything I've tested it on (including the V3 and V5 in two separate machines). In duke3d another good test is start the first episode when you see the exploding rocket ship go by hit escape and usually you get some slight noise in the letters on the main menu. This happens on separate computers, with separate monitors, even on older laptops that can play this game natively. The Matrox Mystique is the first card I've owned out of anything that has passed this test.

Geforce MX 4000 has svideo. Some have svideo and composite out. These are in low profile too. Usually $10.00-$20.00.

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Well it's S-Video. Only so much it can do...

Got some videos from before I used a VGA capture device:

http://youtu.be/r70GI0MV1ws

http://youtu.be/Ao6IgHh4wqI

These videos don't work anymore... do you have any other old videos captured via VGA to S-video with those cheap VGA converters?

kixs wrote:

These videos don't work anymore... do you have any other old videos captured via VGA to S-video with those cheap VGA converters?

Sure!

Try this one: http://youtu.be/TfKQ-uREnsI

Did you make any postprocessing to the original DOOM video (like deinterlancing...)?

I have one of these converters and it seems that the output is interlanced and when switching video modes it looks weird - I really just plugged everything together and tested it. Didn't try to change any settings.