It occurs on a fresh reload only after running setupsa.exe to configure DOS sound card, not from installing drivers.

Any ideas?

No one ever heard of this?

I am thinking about buying a genuine Yamaha card with YMF719-S instead of the Audician 32 with the YMF718-S.

With a fresh load of Windows 98 you will have your two com ports and one printer port. Install Yamaha drivers and everything is fine, reboot and everything is still fine. Add SETUPSA.EXE /S to your autoexec.bat and when it gets to Windows it starts loading the new devices. You get an IRDA controller, a virtual com port, a virtual ecp port, windows loads IRDA software, your original com and printer port are hosed and the new ports of course do no work (they have the yellow exclamation points. I would love to figure this out and use a Yamaha 71x card in my project, I just love it's OPL3 sound!

EDIT: Would screenshots help?

Just properly reading this.

Why do you load SETUPSA.EXE /S in AUTOEXEC.BAT?

It's a big no no to load DOS drivers in Windows 😀 Windows has it's own drivers. SB Pro emulation will work without loading SETUPSA, inside Windows. And in MS-MODE, SETUPSA.EXE should be setup for you by the YAMAHA installer.

Check out my review again: Yamaha Audician 32 Plus YMF718-S Review

After the driver install, nothing else to do. DOS games should work from within Windows, as well as MS-DOS mode. Only thing to check manually is the resources in Device Manager. Sometimes an Ethernet controller takes IRQ5 and then the Yamaha is configured weirdly. I usually just move the NIC until it uses IRQ10 or 11.

I will check the IRQ issue

I thought I have always used SETUPSA.EXE /S to initialize the card, I may be wrong. After installing it it puts SETUPSA.EXE /N in dosstart.bat to bring the control panel up when first going to dosmode then it just runs SETUPSE.EXE /S after that without bringing up the control menu to initialize the card.

I could have sworn that after a clean reload I restarted to dosmode, ran the control menu, tested it, got done and typed exit at the DOS prompt to go back into windows and the offending devices started installing. I will try that again tomorrow.

Thanks Phil.

After installing it it puts SETUPSA.EXE /N in dosstart.bat to bring the control panel up when first going to dosmode then it just runs SETUPSE.EXE /S after that without bringing up the control menu to initialize the card.

Yup. DOSSTART.BAT is a batch file that gets run whenever you shutdown into MS-DOS mode.

I could have sworn that after a clean reload I restarted to dosmode, ran the control menu, tested it, got done and typed exit at the DOS prompt to go back into windows and the offending devices started installing. I will try that again tomorrow.

Hmm, ok that would be odd. But yea, don't put anything in Windows 98's AUTOEXEC.BAT. It should be blank AFAIK.

Phil,

I had some time to test it out. It works great setup as described in windows. I can use the OPL3, Yamaha software synth and wavetable header. There was only a set blaster statement in autoexec.bat.

Booted into msdos mode and the soundcard setupsa menu started. hit enter and continued to dos. Doom worked perfectly with OPL3. Typed exit and went back into Windows and the mysterious devices started appearing 🙁

Since I will not be using real dos on this box I will just comment out setupsa.exe from dosstart.bat just in case I forget and boot into real dos for whatever reason. I am not sure what setupsa.exe is doing but I think it is something outside of opl3sa.inf.

Ok, cool for checking it out again. It's a very odd issue indeed.

I am going to test this card when it gets here this week and see if it happens with it, hopefully not.

It is a YMF719-S

I still dream of finding a YMF71x card that supports big MIDI daughterboards without the need to make a cable.

alexanrs wrote:

I still dream of finding a YMF71x card that supports big MIDI daughterboards without the need to make a cable.

Hehe. Luckily that doesn't effect me.

I like their sound so much that I am probably about to sell every Sound Blaster I have, which is quite a few.

The YMF-719 pictured above caused no problems with same driver, the latest one from Yamaha.