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What is this 486 mb?

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First post, by psychz

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Googled a bit on VIA Pluto but didn't find this one. It has "T.W." printed just above the VLB slot; I've seen this before on a 386 board, don't know what it is... Looks like a great candidate for an Am486DX4 build, however I'm totally in the dark about its settings. Any kind of help would be appreciated!

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Reply 1 of 22, by Brickpad

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One way to find out is to power it on, after install the RAM, CPU, and VGA card, and having a look at the BIOS string.

Reply 2 of 22, by Rawit

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Probably useless info, but that mainboard looks exactly like a Micro Star International (MSI) board I used to have. But it's been so long ago, I could easily be mistaken.

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Reply 3 of 22, by psychz

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I would power it on, if I knew what CPU it had last time or as long as I knew the jumper settings to set one of my CPUs, but since I don't, thats why I'm asking 😀 Won't risk destroying a DX4 with a voltage mismatch...

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Reply 4 of 22, by feipoa

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Reminds me a little bit of the FIC 486-VIP-IO2 and FIC PIO-3, however this board is neither of those. Maybe it is sorta copy of the 486-VIP-IO2? I thought FIC was the only manufacturer who used the VIA PCI 486 chipsets, but I guess not.

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Reply 5 of 22, by konc

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This is a Jetway motherboard. Wasn't able to determine the exact model, but I guess it's a good start.

Reply 6 of 22, by psychz

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Thanks! So, "T. W." == Jetway? In fact, could be, Jetway boards were common in Greece (think plaisio). More searching to do I guess... I'll do try to run it with a 5V cpu and fiddle with the jumpers to see if I get anywhere, at least until I find a proper manual or something like that.

edit: that one looks a bit similar indeed... at least we're getting somewhere 🤣

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Its not like components found in trash after 20 years in rain dont still work flawlessly.

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Reply 7 of 22, by brassicGamer

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Well, following a visual search on Google and browsing of every single 486 board on TH99, your board is not coming up. Without a manufacturer or model number it will be impossible to identify the board unless someone recognises it.

Do you have a 5v CPU you can drop in to get the BIOS string? Worst case scenario in that instance would be that it doesn't POST and you experiment with jumpers until it does.

Can anyone comment on whether it's possible to murder a 5v socket 3 CPU by changing jumpers? Is this a low risk strategy?

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Reply 8 of 22, by FaSMaN

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If you have a eeprom reader you can dump the bios and the bios string will be in plain text at the bottom of the bios

Reply 9 of 22, by psychz

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@FaSMaN: I don't, unfortunately 🙁
@brassicGamer: Yup, not on TH99 either. In fact a 5V CPU attempt is the approach I'm going to follow later this day, let's hope I don't break anything 😜

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Reply 10 of 22, by kixs

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Use 5V cpu, if it won't post, then use 3V cpu. But in any case you won't kill it. Just use a heatsink on 3V CPU. I've used 3V cpu on 5V power many times without problems.

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Reply 11 of 22, by Robin4

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I would use a more common processor on that motherboard, like a DX 2 66 or a DX 4 100.

Do you also have the cache chips for that board.?

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Reply 12 of 22, by konc

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psychz wrote:

"T. W." == Jetway?

I don't know about T.W., but I do know about that green "J" on the BIOS chip 😉

Reply 13 of 22, by psychz

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Oh! I see 😜

@Robin4: No, but I guess I can pull said chips off one of my other 486 boards + a tag chip?

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Its not like components found in trash after 20 years in rain dont still work flawlessly.

:: chemical reaction :: athens in love || reality is absent || spectrality || meteoron || the lie you believe

Reply 14 of 22, by Brickpad

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Have a look at the areas I have highlighted for you. This should help you configure the board for the appropriate processor you want to install. Right now it appears to be configured to run an AMD processor (JRN5).

Reply 15 of 22, by psychz

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Yup, already noticed these, also I assume that the JT1-7 jumpers on the bottom left of the picture (just between the VLB slot and the regulator) are for CPU voltage selection (no pcb printed info on these), and don't know anything about the jumpers on the left of the chip just above the CPU type selector... Maybe I can find more answers after actually getting it to POST!

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Its not like components found in trash after 20 years in rain dont still work flawlessly.

:: chemical reaction :: athens in love || reality is absent || spectrality || meteoron || the lie you believe

Reply 16 of 22, by konc

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-There's nothing written under that QC green sticker, right?
-It looks like a socket 2 motherboard to me

Reply 18 of 22, by brassicGamer

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Socket 2 only supports 5V but the presence of PCI or socket 3 doesn't automatically mean that 3.3V CPUs are supported. I have a socket 3 VLB-only board that won't do 3.3v.

With no overt markings for voltage settings on this board, we won't know until we see some documentation. If this is a 5v only board that would be very interesting from a technical / historical point of view.

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Reply 19 of 22, by konc

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Well I didn't try to deduce the socket type from anything, they're physically different. Look at the "key" corner:

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