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First post, by MajorFoley

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So i had an old thread back (www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=367 ... 1#p321261) in the day about Alien trilogy and it's settings. I'm still messing around with it from time to time going back to a game i enjoyed back when i was a kid.

1st. I wanted to record a playthrough of Aliens trilogy, of course FRAPS can't be used as i tried it, hasnt been updated for about 4 years and can be a hog on system resources. I was wondering if any other known programs like DXtory work with Dosbox?

2nd. Dosbox games i know dont really have alot of mouse support settings, i mean for the game like alien trilogy, i can set mouse buttons keys but i can't stop movement on the Y-axis in game and change it to a look up or down motion. This would be pretty cool if i could get it working but if there is no known way i can deal with the keyboard only controls, did so in the past with DOOM and all that.

3rd. Is it worth getting a front end to use dosbox? I mean i know i have my dosbox shortcut setup for alien trilogy to use the -userconf in the command line but i dont even see a userconf for the auto command file because dosbos has some kind of bat file for opening up the config text file.

Finally during the time i play the game the old thread was about me getting to run the game smoothly which i ended up working out. The only problem i have after the fix is this kind of lurching problem. Like it seems to run smooth enough the game but sometimes it likes to lurch movements. Like for a second its going faster than it should then goes back and then it happens again maybe 5-10 seconds later. It happens alot due to movement firing etc and i was wondering how to fix it. If it's still adjusting cycles to try and fix its gonna be a long one.

Another note. I do own the original disc and i remember making an image of it, but at the time i thought it my disc may have been faulty (was so wrong about that one since the image turned out to work fine and it was my damn blu-ray player holding it back) during the time i also obtained one from the net, god knows where but the image was in a format i never really even heard of since i normally use ISO or cues. It was .MDX i think this was like an alcohol 120% format wasn't it? Anyway the file is a huge 538 MB yet when i load the image only shows as 125MB. Im assuming it's junk space for something? I'm probably gonna delete it and remake another image in a format i like that would probably also be smaller.

Reply 1 of 5, by Dominus

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Just about the image file, if the cd-rom contains audio tracks the image is probably fine. Using alcohol 120 for making a bin-image with a cue track sheet is what I recommend anyways.

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Reply 2 of 5, by Jorpho

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MajorFoley wrote:

1st. I wanted to record a playthrough of Aliens trilogy, of course FRAPS can't be used as i tried it, hasnt been updated for about 4 years and can be a hog on system resources. I was wondering if any other known programs like DXtory work with Dosbox?

Why not use the built-in DOSBox recording feature?

i can set mouse buttons keys but i can't stop movement on the Y-axis in game and change it to a look up or down motion. This would be pretty cool if i could get it working

This is unclear. Are you trying to bind mouse movements to cursor keys? I think there are standard DOS utilities for that sort of thing ("Mousekeys", I think).

i dont even see a userconf for the auto command file because dosbos has some kind of bat file for opening up the config text file.

I have no idea what you are trying to say here.

Finally during the time i play the game the old thread was about me getting to run the game smoothly which i ended up working out. The only problem i have after the fix is this kind of lurching problem. Like it seems to run smooth enough the game but sometimes it likes to lurch movements. Like for a second its going faster than it should then goes back and then it happens again maybe 5-10 seconds later. It happens alot due to movement firing etc and i was wondering how to fix it. If it's still adjusting cycles to try and fix its gonna be a long one.

It is quite possible it worked the same way on the original hardware.

Another note. I do own the original disc and i remember making an image of it, but at the time i thought it my disc may have been faulty (was so wrong about that one since the image turned out to work fine and it was my damn blu-ray player holding it back) during the time i also obtained one from the net, god knows where but the image was in a format i never really even heard of since i normally use ISO or cues. It was .MDX i think this was like an alcohol 120% format wasn't it? Anyway the file is a huge 538 MB yet when i load the image only shows as 125MB. Im assuming it's junk space for something? I'm probably gonna delete it and remake another image in a format i like that would probably also be smaller.

As Mr. Dominus suggests, much of that 538 MB may be audio data.

There might be other ways to convert the image, but if you want you can probably just mount it with Daemon Tools (Daemon Tools supports practically any image format) and then use imgburn on the virtual Daemon Tools drive to get the image in bin/cue format.

Reply 3 of 5, by MajorFoley

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Dominus wrote:

Just about the image file, if the cd-rom contains audio tracks the image is probably fine. Using alcohol 120 for making a bin-image with a cue track sheet is what I recommend anyways.

Doesn't cloneCD etc do the same thing?

Jorpho wrote:
MajorFoley wrote:

1st. I wanted to record a playthrough of Aliens trilogy, of course FRAPS can't be used as i tried it, hasnt been updated for about 4 years and can be a hog on system resources. I was wondering if any other known programs like DXtory work with Dosbox?

Why not use the built-in DOSBox recording feature?

I really didn't know it had one, is there info on it somewhere i could read?

i can set mouse buttons keys but i can't stop movement on the Y-axis in game and change it to a look up or down motion. This would be pretty cool if i could get it working

This is unclear. Are you trying to bind mouse movements to cursor keys? I think there are standard DOS utilities for that sort of thing ("Mousekeys", I think).

Well by default if i move the mouse forwards it makes you move forwards like if your pressing the W key but i'd like to change it to look up instead. The control settings in the game don't read the inputs though. And i'm not sure if the setup file works either.

i dont even see a userconf for the auto command file because dosbos has some kind of bat file for opening up the config text file.

I have no idea what you are trying to say here.

Ok you know the config txt file that comes up? Where you can manually setup cycles, fullscreen etc? I don't even have that file in the dosbox folder. You run the options.bat and thats it i was wondering where the actual text file is stored.

Finally during the time i play the game the old thread was about me getting to run the game smoothly which i ended up working out. The only problem i have after the fix is this kind of lurching problem. Like it seems to run smooth enough the game but sometimes it likes to lurch movements. Like for a second its going faster than it should then goes back and then it happens again maybe 5-10 seconds later. It happens alot due to movement firing etc and i was wondering how to fix it. If it's still adjusting cycles to try and fix its gonna be a long one.

It is quite possible it worked the same way on the original hardware.

Maybe... Ill give it a bit more testing but otherwise you are probably right.

Another note. I do own the original disc and i remember making an image of it, but at the time i thought it my disc may have been faulty (was so wrong about that one since the image turned out to work fine and it was my damn blu-ray player holding it back) during the time i also obtained one from the net, god knows where but the image was in a format i never really even heard of since i normally use ISO or cues. It was .MDX i think this was like an alcohol 120% format wasn't it? Anyway the file is a huge 538 MB yet when i load the image only shows as 125MB. Im assuming it's junk space for something? I'm probably gonna delete it and remake another image in a format i like that would probably also be smaller.

As Mr. Dominus suggests, much of that 538 MB may be audio data.

Even if the image only reads 125MB of it? still Kinda weird to me.

There might be other ways to convert the image, but if you want you can probably just mount it with Daemon Tools (Daemon Tools supports practically any image format) and then use imgburn on the virtual Daemon Tools drive to get the image in bin/cue format.
I think i know how i got the MDX image. Daemon Tools Lite actually has a method to make an image from your drives and the appendix of it was .MDX.

Thanks for both your replies btw

Man i gotta figure out how to reply to all quotes at once, it kind of looks like a big mess if i just try to do it via the quote button.

Last edited by MajorFoley on 2017-02-10, 12:09. Edited 4 times in total.

Reply 4 of 5, by Dominus

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I'm just recommending Alcohol 120% because it made reliable images for me in the past and that while still in the shareware state.

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Reply 5 of 5, by MajorFoley

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Dominus wrote:

I'm just recommending Alcohol 120% because it made reliable images for me in the past and that while still in the shareware state.

Thats fair enough.