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First post, by meljor

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I have several coppermine slot1 cpu's (no external cache chips) from a scrapper and they all work. But they are all missing the plastic casing so i cannot see what type/speed it is....

My p3b-f boots to a safe 66fsb by deafault when detecting a new cpu. So for example one cpu gives me option 300mhz (66fsb) or 450mhz (100fsb). Since this is a coppermine and there is no 450mhz coppermine it must be a 4,5x133fsb cpu or a p3-600. No problem.

Now, when i insert another one it gives me these options: 7,5x 66 or 7,5x100. this COULD be a 750mhz 100fsb cpu but it can also be a 1ghz 133fsb cpu.

Cpu-z and wcpuid do not tell what cpu it really is. It says PIII 750mhz processor and at 66fsb it says pIII 750mhz at 500mhz. But it says the same when i put in a KNOWN 1ghz/133fsb cpu and run it at 500 and 750mhz.

Also with the 600/133 cpu it says PIII 450mhz cpu at either 300 or 450mhz, it should say PIII 600mhz at 300mhz or 450mhz....

Does anyone know how to determine the true speed of these cpu's? These coppermines have a lot of headroom so simply setting 133fsb will run fine but i want to know the official numbers.
there is nothing on the pcb except for ''intel'', a production date (week/year) and random number on the cpu that really doesn't help.

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Reply 1 of 3, by emosun

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Your method of sticking it in and seeing what cpu-z says , is the method.

Without any models numbers on them , you have to just stick them into board and see what it says. Usually when cpu says it's a "750mhz pentium 3" , then that's what it is. The frequency cpu-z says it's running at doesn't matter.

Reply 2 of 3, by meljor

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emosun wrote:

Your method of sticking it in and seeing what cpu-z says , is the method.

Without any models numbers on them , you have to just stick them into board and see what it says. Usually when cpu says it's a "750mhz pentium 3" , then that's what it is. The frequency cpu-z says it's running at doesn't matter.

Unfortunately not, it says exactly the same with my 1ghz/133 cpu which does have a number on it. Running this one at 7,5x100 cpu-z says pentium III 750mhz.

When i run the unknown 7,5 multi cpu at 133fsb it runs like a normal 1000mhz and cpu-z says it's a 1000mhz. It DOES know that a 66fsb PIII does not exist so running it at 7,5x66fsb = 500mhz cpu-z says Pentium III 750mhz and core speed 500mhz. But again, it says the same when i do this with the 1ghz cpu..... 😵

asus tx97-e, 233mmx, voodoo1, s3 virge ,sb16
asus p5a, k6-3+ @ 550mhz, voodoo2 12mb sli, gf2 gts, awe32
asus p3b-f, p3-700, voodoo3 3500TV agp, awe64
asus tusl2-c, p3-S 1,4ghz, voodoo5 5500, live!
asus a7n8x DL, barton cpu, 6800ultra, Voodoo3 pci, audigy1

Reply 3 of 3, by meljor

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Found the solution: Hwinfo32 tells the real speed nomatter how you clock it AND it gives the Sspec number so you can double check.

Great piece of software!

asus tx97-e, 233mmx, voodoo1, s3 virge ,sb16
asus p5a, k6-3+ @ 550mhz, voodoo2 12mb sli, gf2 gts, awe32
asus p3b-f, p3-700, voodoo3 3500TV agp, awe64
asus tusl2-c, p3-S 1,4ghz, voodoo5 5500, live!
asus a7n8x DL, barton cpu, 6800ultra, Voodoo3 pci, audigy1