You can't use Millennium in PS 433SX. It's a PCI card and PS 433SX can only take VL/ISA cards. 86C805 isn't too shabby for DOS games.
I heard matrox cards being not ideal for DOS gaming. TNT2 M64 is a good balance between price and performance. Not sure about MX400.

Huh, I didn't know that. Well I guess the built in video on the 486 will do then.

Speaking of which, does anyone know why the disk drive and cd rom in the Valuepoint won't sit flush with the front of the case? I thought maybe I had them in wrong but from the pictures I've seen on the net it would appear that I'm not the only one with this problem.

So would the Geforce2 MX400 be way overkill for a Pentium 200? Overkill I don't mind, but will it have detrimental performance on DOS games or anything like that?

Tempest wrote:

So would the Geforce2 MX400 be way overkill for a Pentium 200? Overkill I don't mind, but will it have detrimental performance on DOS games or anything like that?

No, it won't be overkill. Early nvidia chips from TNT to GF3 are extremely fast and compatible in DOS games despite not being period correct.

Also, why is the MT-32 on the P200? Games that support MT-32 generally need a 386 or 486 to run without speed issues.

Personally, I would avoid the Millennium 1 and 2 if you're primarily playing DOS games. I've seen lots of weird compatibility issues with Millenniums and DOS games. It's a great card for Win95, though.

A P200 (MMX or not) can throttle effectively down to 386DX speeds using SETMUL.

gdjacobs wrote:

A P200 (MMX or not) can throttle effectively down to 386DX speeds using SETMUL.

You're preaching to the choir. But if you had a 486sx-33 and a P200, which would you put the MT-32 on?

clueless1 wrote:

Tempest wrote:

Also, why is the MT-32 on the P200? Games that support MT-32 generally need a 386 or 486 to run without speed issues.

That's why I'm going to move it to the 486 and put the soundscape opus in the Pentium. When I set them up originally I didn't know better. 😀

IBM PS/Valuepoint
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Graphics: S3 86C805 (built in)
Sound: Soundblaster Awe32 + Roland MT-32

IBM Personal Computer 350
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Graphics: Geforce2 MX400 64MB PCI VGA
Sound: Ensoniq Soundscape Opus

Is here any reason (or way) to upgrade the 486SX to a DX? IIRC 3D games like Doom needed the DX, but I suppose I could always play those on the Pentium 200.

Tempest wrote:

Is here any reason (or way) to upgrade the 486SX to a DX? IIRC 3D games like Doom needed the DX, but I suppose I could always play those on the Pentium 200.

Doom doesn't take advantage of the math co-processor, so it should perform the same on an SX or DX (you're probably thinking of 16 vs 32 bit bus -- Doom requires 32 bit, which includes all 486's). I think any game that might take advantage of or require a DX would run way better on the P200, as you say. I'm thinking Quake, not sure what else off the top of my head.

clueless1 wrote:

Doom doesn't take advantage of the math co-processor, so it should perform the same on an SX or DX (you're probably thinking of 16 vs 32 bit bus -- Doom requires 32 bit, which includes all 486's).

Bah you're right. I'm not thinking. I remember all those kids in college trying to run Doom on their 386's and it failing miserably.

clueless1 wrote:

gdjacobs wrote:

A P200 (MMX or not) can throttle effectively down to 386DX speeds using SETMUL.

You're preaching to the choir. But if you had a 486sx-33 and a P200, which would you put the MT-32 on?

Hey, I didn't recognize your ever changing avatar!

I wouldn't bother upgrading from an SX/33 to a DX/33, no. If I were going to swap that chip out, I'd go with a DX4/100 or 5x86/133, or I'd leave it as-is - and with the P200, leaving it seems to make sense.

Yeah the Valuepoint has a Pentium overdrive socket, but I'm going to leave it the way it is since I have the P200.

Now I just need to create a new Autoexec.bat and Config,sys. It's been a looooong time since I've had to do that. 😀

gdjacobs wrote:

clueless1 wrote:

gdjacobs wrote:

A P200 (MMX or not) can throttle effectively down to 386DX speeds using SETMUL.

You're preaching to the choir. But if you had a 486sx-33 and a P200, which would you put the MT-32 on?

Hey, I didn't recognize your ever changing avatar!

Ha! I've decided to let my avatar represent the game I'm currently playing. This one is my lead character in Realms of Arkania I.