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Reply 20 of 35, by Warlord

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Unofficial Intel application accelerator driver. use at own risk.
You have to manually update the controller, primary and secondary. Run the Microsoft patch first as it fix a bug with cd players.

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Reply 22 of 35, by vorob

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I'm facing a really strange issue here, laptop is Satellite 2805-S603, everything done by your instruction. When I select proper settings in BLOOD or DUKE3D my computer freezes or DOS application crash. Under WIN 98.
Native DOS runs fine with sound and music.
Strange cause I was doing so with S401 and it worked perfectly.

Reply 23 of 35, by Warlord

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It's not strange it's normal. Blood, duke3d build engine games. Yamaha XG VXD drivers in general. Even if its a like a PC ATX motherboard and a PCI XG. Those games build engine games Crash under windows. It has somthing to do with the drivers. Theres some minor exceptions where somone says it works but I suspect thats with the OPL SAx cards and not the PCI cards. Its been reported other places. Only Midi with vxd driver work under windows. However I suspect if you can get sound output out of WDM drivers for those games under windows environment it will not crash. Pure dos its no issue, those games run fine in pure dos its just XG midi doesn't work in pure dos. But atleast they are playable. Hence I am investigating separate hardware configs. opon boot select vxd or wdm driver hardware config 1 and 2, and then run those games with wdm driver, if it will work as it should.

Thread 1
Duke 3D crashes when the sfx are enabled with a Yamaha YMF 724

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YMF744, DOS, no DMA? (PC/PCI, SB-link tests) (edit YES DMA, read further down)

thread 3
Yamaha YMF7x4 Guide

Reply 24 of 35, by vorob

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Thanks for clarifying stuff about Audio!

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Okay, i've made several tests and that's what I can say
Both Blood and Duke 3d have these strange screen shift glitches with a resolution higher than base 320x200.
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I've tested under Windows and in Safe Mode with Command Prompt mode, no difference. If I sat the resolution to 640x400 and higher these glitches will happen from time to time. And no logic was found, they happen randomly.
Tried an external monitor and these glitches happen there as well.
Tried Quake 1 in 640x400 and it was fine.

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This thing was fixed with NOLFB patch (http://dnr.duke4.net/patches.php.html). I've tried under Win 98 and it worked, then I've tried under clean DOS, launched without patch and screen flashes, then activated patch and all is fine.

NOLFB disables the linear framebuffer in VESA 2.0+ BIOS

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Reply 26 of 35, by Warlord

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vorob wrote on 2021-01-28, 14:17:

How you've managed to get 5110 marks in 3DMark 2000?)

I'm only getting 4179 with PowerMizer on max performance, screen resolution 1024x768 and my CPU - 1000mhz.

640x480 16bit Driver 12.41, the driver is linked in same post. also stated it was 640x480 and not 1024x768

Reply 27 of 35, by Warlord

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Warlord wrote on 2021-01-28, 18:42:
vorob wrote on 2021-01-28, 14:17:

How you've managed to get 5110 marks in 3DMark 2000?)

I'm only getting 4179 with PowerMizer on max performance, screen resolution 1024x768 and my CPU - 1000mhz.

640x480 16bit Driver 12.41, the driver is linked in same post. also stated it was 640x480 and not 1024x768

I don't have those glitches in duke3d at 640x480 and above. Since we ruled out the LCD, I'm not sure what to suggest you to try next.

Reply 28 of 35, by vorob

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Warlord wrote on 2021-01-28, 18:42:

640x480 16bit Driver 12.41, the driver is linked in same post. also stated it was 640x480 and not 1024x768

Retested in 640x480 and now I've got 6k+ score 😀

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Reply 29 of 35, by vorob

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401 and 603 connection slot difference. Interesting that 401 uses a generic mini PCI card and can be replaced with wifi one, while 603 used smth different.

Reply 30 of 35, by vorob

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Warlord, does 402 models have a soldered CPU or it is in the socket?

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I just cleaned my 603 and it is in the socket while some people stated that 2805 has soldered CPU.

Reply 31 of 35, by oskarzer0

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Thank you very much for the post @Warlord, it's very interesting.

For contributing something more to the post, say that the only competition for the Toshiba 2805-s402 (2800-500 in europe) is the Dell Inspiron 8100.

Pros Dell Inspiron 8100:

  • Better screen (1600x1200)
  • More Video Memory: Gefore2 Go 32MB
  • Faster processor: PIII 1.13GHz

Cons Dell Inspiron 8100:

  • The ESS Maestro 3 sound chip is DOS compatible but its MIDI sound is worse than the Toshiba´s Yamaha chip.

https://www.zdnet.com/product/dell-inspiron-8100-1-13ghz-vt/

Regards.

Reply 32 of 35, by vorob

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Bought a new screen for 2805. It was sold as new on ebay, the price was extremely cheap. No idea what I'll receive, but it was worth trying. My sample is already showing signs of degradation, the screen is yellowish.

Reply 33 of 35, by vorob

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It's here! For a test, I've installed new LCD into savage laptop. It's brighter, but for some reason, it's not obvious on photos.

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Also, i've taken some comparison photos of bad scaling:

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Reply 34 of 35, by Prez

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vorob wrote on 2021-02-19, 13:57:
It's here! For a test, I've installed new LCD into savage laptop. It's brighter, but for some reason, it's not obvious on photos […]
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It's here! For a test, I've installed new LCD into savage laptop. It's brighter, but for some reason, it's not obvious on photos.

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Also, i've taken some comparison photos of bad scaling:

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Hi ! It seems brighter, yes !
But what about those differences in scaling ?

I look forward to find a 2805-s402 too somewhere 😀

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Reply 35 of 35, by vorob

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Scaling on laptops lay on videocard, not the monitor. So 100% avoid Savage videocard, only GeForce (2805-402 and 603). Savage will be good for an external monitor since scaling there lay on external monitor logic board, internal will have horrible scaling. Windows stuff looks extremely bad in low resolution:

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